Russia put this into motion, and without US assistance, combined with that of other nations, Russia woukd have seized far more territory and killed far more people. They’d also have destabilized Europe even more. They weren’t stopping at Kiev and Odessa.
After Trump sets them up by removing support.
How can Trump screw them over? They either agree to a deal or they don't. They decide. He got a 30 day cease fire and them negotiating, now it is up to them to settle things.
How much money should we spend on a foreign war that doesn't involve us? Is there a limit? In my opinion, we should stop sending them support, we have spent enough.
It's not money; it's military equipment, much of which is outdated or will soon be outdated. And military intelligence was also withdrawn.
By withholding satellite communications. By pausing the sharing of intel. By reneging on promises/backstabbing them on whatever agreement is reached.
Russia wants a land bridge to Transnistria and to cut Ukraine off completely from the Black Sea. They also tried to take Kiev and occupied Chernobyl.
You would prefer to spend more over the next 10 years globally to keep Russia in check? Not giving a larger blow to them now means all of NATO's commitments, including our own, need aggressively funded still. There is no net gain abiding by your opinion. You are however entitled to it, as you are to stretching what you might currently be comfortable with to achieve more lasting goals for all countries outside of Russia.
It’s not same language, it’s more cultural. I have Russian friends from the Russian side and they identify more with Ukraine.
Have you considered a career in clear, concise writing education??....Bravo post!!
So when Ukraine finishes their withdrawal from Kursk, trump can take credit for influencing Putin and Putin for being merciful. As others have said, this scenario is pure trump BS.
We have spent trillions on defense so no country on the planet isn't within our military and economic influence. It boggles my mind people want to throw that investment away as useless over a couple hundred million and us refreshing our surplus stocks that do expire eventually. We have a chance to destroy Russia economically while leaving them without their Soviet stockpiles from the last time. They've purged many of their scientific community they relyed on for new weapons development in favor of corruption at every level and branch. You seem like a good egg, and thanks for your contributions to threads, especially as of late.
We are able to unload our old stuff, get new stuff tested, and no loss of Americans lives.
They don't understand numbers once you get over 3 or 4 zeros.
Well considering the conditions for peace were “surrender or die” I’m pretty sure it will be a minute before we see any progress.
Did you also believe Putin wanted Biden to win the presidency too.
optics: he wants to make the ukranians seem weak. That's what he does.
yes, how do you not see that as a win for nato. Nato will out survive russia. The loss of this many military aged men will already hurt them in coming generations.
The post I responded to has context. The US trying to claim it is in the financial best interests of itself due to immediate budget savings, to let Russia keep gains and rest/rearm until they break a ceasefire, is ridiculously foolish. The US bought time for Ukraine to develop tech the west wouldn't part with, or didn't have, that are force multipliers. Ukraine is fighting Russia's wartime finances and military supply strains in a more creative way than any speculated.
Russia can't take over Ukraine, and now they are going to take over the world? They have been in a stalemate for how long? We need to quit wasting our money on this. We have our own problems that we need to deal with.
It ain't. Putin has got lapdog Bonespurs over a barrel and Bonespurs still begging to be set free. His master has not yet decided. Needs more begging and groveling.
You might have your own problems to deal with.
