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Ukraine agrees to 30 day cease-fire,...

I expect trump to facilitate conscripts from N korea and chinese made drones and weapons to pour in to Russia. that way when the ceasefire inevitable ends, Russia has strengthened their hand.
 
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Big if true. Sadly, Putin will now immediately attack.
the article linked by op actually has a bit of positive news in it. here's the first para:
"The U.S. and Ukraine said Kyiv would accept a 30-day ceasefire with Russia after talks in Saudi Arabia on Tuesday, with Washington pledging to immediately lift a freeze on intelligence sharing and military aid to Ukraine."
 
It feels like this is going to end with Ukraine losing land and the US having some variety of economic colonization over mineral rights.
Erik Prince is going to add a comma trying to protect those mining contractors.
 
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the article linked by op actually has a bit of positive news in it. here's the first para:
"The U.S. and Ukraine said Kyiv would accept a 30-day ceasefire with Russia after talks in Saudi Arabia on Tuesday, with Washington pledging to immediately lift a freeze on intelligence sharing and military aid to Ukraine."
I agree that is a good quid pro quo but it does nothing to end the conflict or, frankly, to deter Russia.
 
It really is unacceptable for Ukraine to just hand over 20% of its country because Putin decided he wanted it.

Cut a deal for just Crimea and end this.
what is the option regarding the bolded part? i don't believe continuing what we've been doing for 3 years does anything to address it
 
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It feels like this is going to end with Ukraine losing land and the US having some variety of economic colonization over mineral rights.
While unfortunate and not a desired outcome, sometimes you have to give up something to save lives. I am pro Ukraine and want the war to end. I can see Russia dragging this out for another 2-3 years. The needless slaughtering of young men and women on both sides would continue and nothing would be gained by either side.
 
I know it won’t happen but if Putin refuses Trump should immediately ask for more funding and open the floodgates for weapons and ammunition for Ukraine.
Would you supply them with weapons the previous administration would not? If so, why would that be different now vs a fe months ago? What would be the reason we held back these weapons for 3 years?

F Russia. Pro Ukraine. I just want the war to end.
 
While unfortunate and not a desired outcome, sometimes you have to give up something to save lives. I am pro Ukraine and want the war to end. I can see Russia dragging this out for another 2-3 years. The needless slaughtering of young men and women on both sides would continue and nothing would be gained by either side.

I pretty much figured Ukraine was going to lose territory in this one. The strong arming of mineral rights to the US is what causes me pause.
 
I am seeing this news. I am skeptical how much the US will help if shit goes down again. I am also in tears as my friends, my colleagues and my wife (no pics), dog and myself are safe for at least a month.
If there is one fairly safe bet it is that you don't make a narcissist look stupid without a escalated response.



Godspeed.


To those of you, so blinded by politics, you are aroused at the idea that Putin will break his word and make Trump look like a fool at the cost of Ukrainian lives, so you can get your confirmation bias that Trump is an idiot, I say this from the bottom of my heart, you are pathetic.
 
While unfortunate and not a desired outcome, sometimes you have to give up something to save lives. I am pro Ukraine and want the war to end. I can see Russia dragging this out for another 2-3 years. The needless slaughtering of young men and women on both sides would continue and nothing would be gained by either side.
I don't see how Russia could drag this out for 2 more years. They are depleted in cannon fodder, cannons, tanks to launch artillery from and missles. Not to mention generals.. Yet Putin doesn't care how many body bag his boys come home in.
What will be interesting is how many generations will it take to replace those who left or those who were unable to leave.
 
You sure do play the part well. We shall see what happens.
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