Yeah but the problem with winning with a shitty offense is that you're winning almost entirely against shitty teams, and then getting splattered by teams that actually have a pulse. So you rack up 8 wins against crap, all the while knowing you stand zero chance against the big dogs, but since you racked up 8 wins with a shitty offense against crap teams, you think a shitty offense must be ok because you racked up 8 wins, so why not just be happy winning 8 games with a shit offense? But what good is being content with 8 games yet knowing you have no chance at the highest level? That's why I'll never understand the ones who are content with the 8 games and why, for whatever reason, they don't want the program to address the problem and try winning at the highest level.