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Creating buzz right before an election is a good thing. Everyone right, left and center woke up this morning and is talking about Trump.

That other lady is somewhere doing something boring.
Whatever helps you to justify it. I bet you’re busy wondering about his dong as well.
 
Folks who can't handle it need to cope.
You are defending someone who
  • Wears orange makeup
  • Brags about the size of another man’s penis
  • Drinks water with two hands
  • Cheats at golf
  • Has been convicted of multiple felonies
  • Found liable for sexual assault
  • Calls Americans who disagree with him “the enemy within”
  • Lost the support of his top military advisors (who he appointed) for being a threat to the United States
  • Thinks windmills cause cancer
  • Spied on underage beauty pageant contestants
  • Traded “love notes” with Kim Jung Un
  • Had the worst economic, jobs and healthcare record of any president since the Great Depression
  • Says he weighs 215 when he is likely pushing past 3 bills
  • Posts memes of himself in cosplay
  • Gave his own child a job in his administration despite zero qualifications
  • F*cked a pornstar while his wife was home with their newborn
  • Lied more in the last 24 hours than you probably have in your entire life
  • Cheated on every wife he has had
  • Befriended pedophiles
  • Said he is the father of “IVF” despite being the one that caused anti-IVF legislation
  • Defrauded people with a fake charity
  • Defrauded people with a fake university
This is the tip of the iceberg and yet despite all this Trump has a great chance to win the election. I will cope just fine in that case - I’m a rich white dude after all.

But it doesn’t have anything to do with coping. It is about who we are as a nation. Are we the type of country that elevates and celebrates people that do the things above? Actions speak louder than words and Trump’s actions are so horrid, so despicable that one has to ask how any sane person could support the guy.
 
No, I’m not embarrassed that Trump is leading in the polls.

Are you embarrassed that the more Kamala speaks, the worse she does in the polls?
You not being embarrassed that Trump is leading in the polls is further evidence that 1) either your parents did fail in raising you or 2) that life in the group home isn’t all it could be.
 
You not being embarrassed that Trump is leading in the polls is further evidence that 1) either your parents did fail in raising you or 2) that life in the group home isn’t all it could be.

You should be embarrassed that your party can’t do better than Harris and Waltz.

I’m thrilled that Trump will be President again.
 
or...
3) Kamala is so bad she makes Trump look viable.
Honest request: Define “so bad” for me please.

As far as I can tell “so bad” means
  • She blew a guy in a consensual relationship when she was single (compare to Trump’s infidelities)
  • She laughs unexpectedly and has a bit of a cackle (compare to Trump’s literal sociopathy)
  • She sometimes speaks in word salad (compare to Trump not having “cognitive”)
  • She is labeled by dumbasses as a “Marxist” despite virtually all top capitalist economists saying her economic policies are better than Trump’s
  • She didn’t solve the border (but neither did Trump and he was actually president)
  • She supports LGBTQ people, you know because she is a kind person.
Those are the six things I see when people say she is awful. The only one where I can legitimately say Trump may be stronger is the border. I will give you that. But as an independent never Trumper I truly think on EVERY other dimension Trump is worse at the things people say Kamala is bad at.
 
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3) Kamala is so bad she makes Trump look viable.

That is the excuse you guys use no matter who the Democrats put out there. "They nominated THE ONE SINGLE PERSON who would make me vote for Trump." Right. You are a bunch of liars. You love that list of character flaws. You love Trump and all he stands for. You hate the "cultural elites", and giving them the finger is far more important to you than anything dealing with governance.
 
We have a presidential candidate for the Republican party that has publicly gushed, admired, and drooled over other men's penises. And one in particular. Wow... How far can they sink?
 
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That’s cute. Is that something you saw on CNN? I watched CNN a couple of days ago, they were saying something similar.

It’s real easy to pick the CNN viewers in thus forum.
Are you saying he didn’t say that?
Neither one of those items were bothersome though. Just kind of funny. I wouldn't hate on a dem for doing the same thing.
Imagine how it would have been covered by conservative media had Biden made that comment?
 
We have a presidential candidate for the Republican party that has publicly gushed, admired, and drooled over other men's penises.

Hard to believe that Huey is running for president,.. Even more unbelievable as a Republican,.. But if you say so.
 
or...
3) Kamala is so bad she makes Trump look viable.
Trump is like Billy Madison. Technically he made it through school and ‘earned’ his lot in life, but deep down he’s just a smart ass and a troll and probably truly lives for getting under people’s skin(s).

The sensible way to deal with him would have been to find a serious, intelligent, independent Dem to challenge the Biden/Harris shit show in a healthy primary.

But nope. Americans do love their shit shows.
 
Honest request: Define “so bad” for me please.

As far as I can tell “so bad” means
  • She blew a guy in a consensual relationship when she was single (compare to Trump’s infidelities)
  • She laughs unexpectedly and has a bit of a cackle (compare to Trump’s literal sociopathy)
  • She sometimes speaks in word salad (compare to Trump not having “cognitive”)
  • She is labeled by dumbasses as a “Marxist” despite virtually all top capitalist economists saying her economic policies are better than Trump’s
  • She didn’t solve the border (but neither did Trump and he was actually president)
  • She supports LGBTQ people, you know because she is a kind person.
Those are the six things I see when people say she is awful. The only one where I can legitimately say Trump may be stronger is the border. I will give you that. But as an independent never Trumper I truly think on EVERY other dimension Trump is worse at the things people say Kamala is bad at.
This is my issue with the discourse. People suggest that Kamala isn't intelligent when she is running against someone who is likely of average intelligence at best, they complain about her personality when she is running against a narcissist, they complain that she doesn't discuss policy neither does her opponent, they complain that she slept her way to the top when her opponent largely inherited his wealth, they complain about her failures while ignoring Trump's.

I think it is a mistake when people label Kamala as a Marxist. She's not. It's a mistake when people label Trump a fascist. He isn't. He uses fascist language but he doesn't really buy into the subordination of the individual or militarization aspects of facism. He's a narcissist. He is not fit for an important leadership role. His narcissism led him to undermine our democratic principals in particular the transition of power. He has promoted a post truth world view and is so online that he has been fooled by fake news and has platformed it.

I'm less annoyed with people who say they favor Trump based on policy. Even though I disagree. In terms of the economy I think we give too much credit/blame to presidents. I don't think tariffs are a good strategy and would likely cause economic harm. Particularly sense the proposed tariffs are going to affect inputs on the things we do manufacture. We need to address immigration but I would advocate for streamlining pathways to work for immigrants. Most immigrants want to work and above board jobs provide less expensive labor and tax revenue. I would also like to see us shift our manufacturing relationships from Asia to Mexico and Central America.
 
Trump is like Billy Madison. Technically he made it through school and ‘earned’ his lot in life, but deep down he’s just a smart ass and a troll and probably truly lives for getting under people’s skin(s).

The sensible way to deal with him would have been to find a serious, intelligent, independent Dem to challenge the Biden/Harris shit show in a healthy primary.

But nope. Americans do love their shit shows.

It wouldn't matter who ran on the democrat side. The view from the right would be the same.
 
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It wouldn't matter who ran on the democrat side. The view from the right would be the same.
True. And the reverse could be said if you switched roles.

I have no dog in this fight but it seems both parties need to look at the big picture early in the selection process.

When you nominate divisive figures like Kamala and Donald, you risk pissing off YOUR traditional voters to the point of staying home and you risk motivating lukewarm supporters of THEIR side to actually vote instead of staying home.

Probably why Biden won in ‘20 - he really wasn’t seen as a polarizing figure four years ago.

Take the MAGA element out of the situation and a hypothetical race such as Buttigieg v. DeSantis might make the US seem like a big boy country again.
 
If only Republicans had been given a choice in the primary. We wouldn’t be talking about grandpa having moments serving up fries to fake customers or grandpa talking about the dongs of dead golfers.
They chose Trump from a large primary field ahead of 2016. They chose Trump from a large primary field ahead of 2024. But Republicans continue to tell us they have no choice but to vote for Trump.
 
We should have partyless or combined primaries with rank choice voting. The current system promotes far left and right leaning candidates. It makes it very difficult for moderates to be successful and discourages the development of alternative parties.
 
True. And the reverse could be said if you switched roles.

I have no dog in this fight but it seems both parties need to look at the big picture early in the selection process.

When you nominate divisive figures like Kamala and Donald, you risk pissing off YOUR traditional voters to the point of staying home and you risk motivating lukewarm supporters of THEIR side to actually vote instead of staying home.

Probably why Biden won in ‘20 - he really wasn’t seen as a polarizing figure four years ago.

Take the MAGA element out of the situation and a hypothetical race such as Buttigieg v. DeSantis might make the US seem like a big boy country again.
what has Harris ever done that you consider divisive… other than oppose Republicans in Congress? Give me a phuquin’ break…Democrats opposing Republicans and vice versatility is NOT divisive,,,, it is what politics is!
Jeeeeebus keeeeeeeeist! Grow a set and defend your Party…. If you can!
 
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what has Harris ever done that you consider divisive… other than oppose Republicans in Congress? Give me a phuquin’ break…Democrats opposing Republicans and vice versatility is NOT divisive,,,, it is what politics is!
Jeeeeebus keeeeeeeeist! Grow a set and defend your Party…. If you can!
Did I say she did anything divisive? Acting in opposition to politicians from the other side is what politics USED to be. That ship has sailed - it’s pure ugliness now.

Oh, and ‘defend my party’? LMFAO! I don’t have a party and I’m not defending any of these dregs of society.
 
Did I say she did anything divisive? Acting in opposition to politicians from the other side is what politics USED to be. That ship has sailed - it’s pure ugliness now.

Oh, and ‘defend my party’? LMFAO! I don’t have a party and I’m not defending any of these dregs of society.
Didn’t you are she is the decisive candidate in this election! Which is bullshit.
How do you feel about the reports from a cast member of The Apprentice that Trump has been wearing diapers ever since he was on that show… He mentions there was a reason why cast workers for The Apprentice referred to the show as a real “shit show”’….
 
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Didn’t you are she is tge devuaice candidate in this election! Which is bullshit.
How do you feel about the reports from a cast member of The Aporentice that Trump gigs been wearing diapers ever since he @sttarrw on that show… Ge mentions there was a reason why cast workers for Tge Aporenyentuce refeemrredctk Tge show as a real “shit show”’….
Are you drunk posting, Joel?
 
Pretended to work for 5 minutes out of Mcdonald's, after rambling on incessantly about other men's penises. Love me those maga morons!
Rent free in your head….i watched this live and it was the best part of Trump. Retail politics. Talking to normal people. People that were very glad to see him and meet him. And you know he loves himself some McDonald’s. I thought it was great actually.

The only place Kamala would be comfortable in the same way is at a wine bar pouring for some rich patrons that share her love for a good bottle of Rosé
 
Didn’t you are she is tge devuaice candidate in this election! Which is bullshit.
How do you feel about the reports from a cast member of The Aporentice that Trump gigs been wearing diapers ever since he @sttarrw on that show… Ge mentions there was a reason why cast workers for Tge Aporenyentuce refeemrredctk Tge show as a real “shit show”’….
I said she is divisive - I never pointed to anything specific. Some people just have an innate ability to repel others. 🤷‍♂️

As for the rest of your post (as hard as it was to read) why would I give a shit if Trump wore/wears diapers. I’m not voting for people who I feel are unqualified…and imo they’re all unqualified.
 
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