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Who is the asshole quiz
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You got one with a Misfits logo on it? Those are bad ass!If you ever deliver on your hawkeye basketball bet lost here, in exchange for an Illinois gummy, I can give you one of these bumper stickers his truck was adorned with. You can put it on your truck and also be a punisher.
I should note, I am a BMW M series driver, so I have to deal with slow, no-moving-over a-holes like you on the reg🙂. Either speed up or get the F out of the way!
Driver B doesn't get the benefit of assuming left lane traffic is clear and if driver A can get over for him. B should learn to merge.
Being in the Quad Cities there are a few on ramps on 74 I will not move over for if my exit is coming up. Mostly because a large percentage of Quad Citians are tailgaters and will make it a pain in the ass to get back into the right lane to exit.
Instead of burying the accelerator on the merge and forcing your way into traffic, my advice would be to put your head on a swivel, adjust your speed, and obey the f*cking law.
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You can’t tell if the left lane is clear? Maybe you shouldn’t be driving if you’re blind!
This isn’t a hard concept — if lane is clear on left and someone is merging on right, GET THE F OVER!
Here’s how this goes down in South Florida.
Driver A would have paced himself and blocked Driver B’s merge, because, you know, nobody merges in front of me you asshole. Then Driver B would’ve sped up and merged around on the median and then brake-checked Driver A. Then Driver A and Driver B both get out and start arguing, but Driver B doesn’t speak English so they’re having a little trouble communicating. But everyone understands the universal languages of Glock and Smith & Wesson, so they each run to their cars for their guns. But before either of them can shoot Driver A is eaten by a naked homeless Jamaican guy high on bath salts.
Lucky you live in Iowa, OP.
Driver A would have paced himself and blocked Driver B’s merge, because, you know, nobody merges in front of me you asshole. Then Driver B would’ve sped up and merged around on the median and then brake-checked Driver A. Then Driver A and Driver B both get out and start arguing, but Driver B doesn’t speak English so they’re having a little trouble communicating. But everyone understands the universal languages of Glock and Smith & Wesson, so they each run to their cars for their guns. But before either of them can shoot Driver A is eaten by a naked homeless Jamaican guy high on bath salts.
Lucky you live in Iowa, OP.
That would depend on how the question was phrased.
Driver A isn’t legally obligated to move over, of course. It’s just common courtesy. When you enter a building you’re not legally obligated to hold the door open for someone who’s following a few feet behind you, it’s just common courtesy.
The answers to driving test questions are generally going to be based on the letter of the law, not what’s socially courteous.
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No, I was genuinely curious what people's opinions are given the situation. The varied response has been a bit surprising. For what is worth, traffic conditions today were much heavier, there were a lot of cars merging on from the same onramp, and I proactively moved over to avoid a mess. Yesterday, it was much earlier in the morning, and we were the only two automobiles around.
Agreed, the concept is simple and 14-year olds routinely answer this correctly on driver's education tests in order to get a learner's permit. The merging automobile his legally required to yield.
Heavens to Betsy. I'm starting to think maybe you don't know how to merge either. Do really need someone to get completely out of your way to deploy a simple driving tactic?
I can play this game too.
I believe OP tried to instill bias in the question by labeling himself Driver A instead of B, therefore he is still an asshole.
The question on the thread not who was legally right. It was who is the asshole, which is subjective.
It simply comes down to if someone is not courteous, then do you believe they are an asshole?
The biggest asshole is the one that is merging onto the interstate so you do the right thing and move to the left to give them comfort to merge in; however, this asshole then comes up to speed at the exact same rate as you and sits on your right rear bumper.
To me, in an asshole contest the relative size of the asshole doesn't matter.
It is a rectangle and square situation. All assholely behavior is discourteous, but not all discourteous behavior is assholey.
I honestly tried to make the OP unbiased, but I found that this was leading to incorrect opinions, so I had to insert more bias in my favor as the thread progressed.
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You can be in the "right" and still be the asshole.
Yes, the rules of the road put the onus on the merger, but in real world conditions, if traffic is light and the person merging is clearly going at a speed that will intersect or nearly intersect with the vehicle on the highway, the courteous, non-asshole move is for the on-highway vehicle to make a simple lane change so the merging vehicle has a clear path.
I'm not going to pass judgment here, but both drivers made one big mistake. That mistake is assuming the other driver was going to do exactly what they wanted them to do.
Therefore, both drivers believe the other driver was an asshole.
Me, I always drive with the assumption that all drivers are assholes - and all traffic is going to do exactly the opposite of what I hope they do.
I adjust my driving accordingly. I do whatever I have to do to always give me space because space gives me options. Sometimes that means being passive, sometimes that means being aggressive. But that always means I have a much better chance of not getting pissed off during my trip to where I might make mistakes out of anger.
It's not worth it, folks. Assume the other driver is always going to do the wrong thing - and adjust accordingly.
Therefore, both drivers believe the other driver was an asshole.
Me, I always drive with the assumption that all drivers are assholes - and all traffic is going to do exactly the opposite of what I hope they do.
I adjust my driving accordingly. I do whatever I have to do to always give me space because space gives me options. Sometimes that means being passive, sometimes that means being aggressive. But that always means I have a much better chance of not getting pissed off during my trip to where I might make mistakes out of anger.
It's not worth it, folks. Assume the other driver is always going to do the wrong thing - and adjust accordingly.
Driver A should have moved to the far lane, allowing Driver B to enter near lane.
Driver B should have sped up or slowed to avoid sideswiping driver A.
Both assholes, for different reasons.
Legally it’s on Driver B to enter the highway safely and dollars to donuts they are a f*cking moron who probably shouldn’t be allowed to drive.
Driver B should have sped up or slowed to avoid sideswiping driver A.
Both assholes, for different reasons.
Legally it’s on Driver B to enter the highway safely and dollars to donuts they are a f*cking moron who probably shouldn’t be allowed to drive.
Driver A is an asshole for not moving over to the left lane. Driver B is an asshole for not yielding to the vehicle with the right of way and for being an adult with Punisher stickers on his car. Everyone wins. And loses.
This. With zero traffic it is perhaps a nice gesture to change lanes, but not necessary and imo not called for.
- The single biggest opportunity for a crash is when you change lanes, so it's always best to keep lane changing to a minimum.
- Left lane is for passing. Adherence to this simple rule is why Europeans can drive so much faster on their highways with fewer accidents. Well, that an the .05% blood alcohol limit.
- If you are driving in the correct lane at a reasonable speed, it is not incumbent on you to change lanes to someone is is obligated to yield to you. Honestly, even trying to adjust your speed can be counterproductive, because if the merging vehicle has a good driver they have already made a rough calculation of your speed and what they need to do to adjust. Changing your speed just screws them up.
Driver A is a prick, but not an asshole. But that's because he's driving a BMW. He is completely in the right in this situation. Driver B is an asshole. It is completely his responsibility to merge safely into the traffic already on the interstate.
This. Driver B must obey the solid white line and then merge into traffic with caution and care.
If I'm Driver A and alone in my car, I don't yield because Driver B will probably drive same speed and prevent me from getting to my exit lane ahead.
If my wife is with me, I yield because she doesn't like confrontation.
Really tho, with as much motorcycle traffic as we have, moving over at that speed with only being able to make a quick glance into the mirrors isn't the safest option either.
If my wife is with me, I yield because she doesn't like confrontation.
Really tho, with as much motorcycle traffic as we have, moving over at that speed with only being able to make a quick glance into the mirrors isn't the safest option either.
Agreed. During the warm months, you do get the idiots driving their motorcycles near 100 mph blowing by everyone, and they can come out of nowhere. And if you are familiar with DSM, I was westbound on 235 between the University and 6th street exits, which is prime real estate for dipshits on motorcycles.
All good points, and part of my calculus. I always thought HORTers bitched about people in the right hand lane not knowing the rules of merging, and adjusting their speed for merging automobiles, as it makes it harder to judge speed to shoot a gap.
I know exactly what you are describing.
The Harleys you can hear. The crotch rockets...not so much.
235 can be a bitch.
I stopped reading at “BMW.” Driver A is clearly the asshole who also enjoys schadenfreude with their mechanic.
I think you meant to work in masochism rather than schadenfreude.
it's driver Bs responsibility to slow or speed up to merge. end of story. it's not a debate.
What's interesting is that a few years ago I came on here and told about driving on a long straight stretch of Interstate late at night with no other cars anywhere. This was in Texas where you could see for miles, and where they have extremely long merge lanes. I could see way in the distance a car starting to enter the merge ramp, and I thought little of it. However, he was on target to merge just as I was passing by, and though he had at least ten or twenty seconds to adjust, he didn't adjust his speed until the last moment - and proceeded to lay on his horn because I didn't move over for him.
At the time HORT was about 10-1 against me, saying it was expected that I should change lanes to accommodate someone merging.
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I just searched for my post, and you were one of them saying I was an asshole for not moving over!
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Basically this thread is that Tenacious E is highly successful and owns a BMW M version of an X3. Good on ya Jack!
Ahaha! I think we figured it out. In OP it is stated "Driver B could slow down or speed up and merge with no problem.
But in above admission of guilt, the story has now dramatically changed to "In any event B was doing at least 70 in a 55 while I was going 63. He just buried his accelerator and expected the sea to part in front of him"
Driver B actually attempted to speed up to merge, and then driver A, being an asshole, then sped up because he is one of those types. Evidentiary proof of this occurrence supported by Drive A also driving a BMW. Driver A sped up to block B, and then has the audacity to be upset that the poor, unsuspected 82 year old grandmother driver in other lane did not realize the BMW was playing the cock block game and almost sideswiped him.
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If Driver A has his/her shit together and sees no traffic around him/her, and sees someone coming from an on ramp at a similar time, Driver A should get over (courtesy wise).
Driver A should already know what the traffic around them is like, Driver B has to look in his/her mirror from an angle and head swivel to determine traffic on a road he/she hasn't entered yet. (should be able to make some quick observation of the amount of traffic, which one would hope you aren't barreling onto the Freeway if it's HEAVY traffic - if it's heavy traffic Driver B is the asshole in that scenario entering the Freeway well over the speed limit).
In the scenario you gave, you're the asshole (Driver A), 100% no question about it. (your sightlines are better and you're likely on a straight section of road where you should already know your surroundings, that's the main gist of it).
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