Iowa City's population in the 70s and 80s was around 65000. Today 75000.
Not sure what population in college towns has to do with it, but what I read on here (I have little first hand knowledge), YES those programs do have more money to throw at recruits. The bulk of the NIL at Iowa goes to Kirk, and he still can't find a QB.
Fran didn’t win shit before NIL either. Ok coach who gets ok players to play ok. Not horrible by any means but never good enough to inspire hope in the fandom. Thus the current apathy. Name another power 5 coach kept around for 15 seasons at the same school with similar results of Fran.
I’m not saying we should keep Fran around.
Were the seasons THAT great before NIL? One conference tournament championship and zero regular season championship in 14 years. How has recruiting cratered when they haven't had a top 40 class in 13 years? It looks pretty much like it always has.
Larger populations = more to do, socially / recreationally w/ more like-minded people. I've heard for years 'can't recruit to Iowa City b/c cornfields, hicktown, out in the sticks', etc. Fallacy.
Exactly. It's just another crutch to explain away why a certain staff isn't producing better results. Now it can actually be blamed on fans for not paying enough money as opposed to the staffs actually responsible for it. Of course the results weren't any different before NIL, but that's what some of these people would have you believe.
Not sure what numbers you are providing. Does it include NIL, or is it revenue from TV, conference, attendance, etc?
The EADA, a law passed in 1994, requires university athletic departments to submit a team breakdown of program finances to promote both gender and financial equity in college athletics.
Aren't those amounts reported by the athletic department? They would be separate from and lacking even an indirect connection to raised NIL funds so not sure it's relevant to recruiting... at least currently.
Frans problems are recruiting the same player every year and trying to play them all. A lack of dedication to anything resembling defense or a tough nosed guard. He runs off any guard who will have 3 turnovers but makes up for it on the defensive end for a slow short kid that can hit a few threes but gives up more point ts than he creates.
I will agree with this to an extent.
| NCAA Revenue Sharing estimates 2025-26 * | Annual Revenue | 22% of Revenue | Est Revenue Sharing 2025 |
|---|---|---|---|
| Average per School | $ 116,190,176 | $ 25,561,839 | $ 19,967,336 |
| Illinois | 94,445,170 | 20,777,937 | 20,500,000 |
| Indiana | 102,392,473 | 22,526,344 | 20,500,000 |
| Iowa | 118,237,834 | 26,012,323 | 20,500,000 |
| Maryland | 82,283,284 | 18,102,322 | 18,102,322 |
| Michigan | 166,204,848 | 36,565,067 | 20,500,000 |
| Michigan State | 117,004,694 | 25,741,033 | 20,500,000 |
| Minnesota | 102,829,428 | 22,622,474 | 20,500,000 |
| Nebraska | 142,131,011 | 31,268,822 | 20,500,000 |
| Northwestern ** | ** | ** | ** |
| Ohio State | 187,930,323 | 41,344,671 | 20,500,000 |
| Oregon | 112,696,955 | 24,793,330 | 20,500,000 |
| Penn State | 141,979,389 | 31,235,466 | 20,500,000 |
| Purdue | 98,227,839 | 21,610,125 | 20,500,000 |
| Rutgers | 76,561,314 | 16,843,489 | 16,843,489 |
| Southern Cal ** | ** | ** | ** |
| UCLA | 81,961,661 | 18,031,565 | 18,031,565 |
| Washington | 102,064,858 | 22,454,269 | 20,500,000 |
| Wisconsin | 132,091,734 | 29,060,181 | 20,500,000 |
| Est Revenue Sharing 2025 | Revenue Sharing % | Revenue $ Share | Eligible Athletes | Average $ per Athlete |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| Big Ten Average | 100.0% | 19,967,336 | 458 | |
| Football | 78.3% | 15,630,434 | 105 | 148,861 |
| Mens Basketball | 15.0% | 3,006,642 | 14 | 208,795 |
| All Other Sports | 6.7% | 1,330,260 | 471 | 2,825 |
| Big Ten Conference 2023-24 | ||
|---|---|---|
| Member Schools - 2023 | 14 | |
| Member Schools - 2024 | 18 | |
| Average Collective Funding per School 2023-24 * | $ 10,687,228 | |
| Average Collective Funding per School 2024-25 * | $ 9,725,407 |
| School | 2023 Conf | 2024 Conf | Collective Funding * | Total Support | Ticket Sales | Contributions |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Illinois | Big Ten | Big Ten | $ 9,311,667 | 56,656,994 | 15,693,517 | 40,963,477 |
| Indiana | Big Ten | Big Ten | $ 13,631,160 | 82,939,020 | 21,278,997 | 61,660,023 |
| Iowa | Big Ten | Big Ten | $ 9,698,730 | 59,012,087 | 26,416,829 | 32,595,258 |
| Maryland | Big Ten | Big Ten | $ 3,735,112 | 22,726,352 | 12,735,792 | 9,990,560 |
| Michigan | Big Ten | Big Ten | $ 16,357,054 | 99,524,766 | 55,266,135 | 44,258,631 |
| Michigan State | Big Ten | Big Ten | $ 13,035,471 | 79,314,544 | 25,178,673 | 54,135,871 |
| Minnesota | Big Ten | Big Ten | $ 7,171,424 | 43,634,648 | 19,252,536 | 24,382,112 |
| Nebraska | Big Ten | Big Ten | $ 7,973,918 | 48,517,435 | 38,946,701 | 9,570,734 |
| Northwestern | Big Ten | Big Ten | n/a | n/a | n/a | n/a |
| Ohio State | Big Ten | Big Ten | $ 20,253,400 | 123,232,149 | 59,649,921 | 63,582,228 |
| Oregon ** | Pac-12 | Big Ten | $ 10,623,807 | 64,640,729 | 24,357,945 | 40,282,784 |
| Penn State | Big Ten | Big Ten | $ 13,793,489 | 83,926,716 | 44,678,657 | 39,248,059 |
| Purdue | Big Ten | Big Ten | $ 5,510,579 | 33,529,207 | 16,617,614 | 16,911,593 |
| Rutgers | Big Ten | Big Ten | $ 3,624,816 | 22,055,252 | 13,049,333 | 9,005,919 |
| Southern Cal ** | Pac-12 | Big Ten | n/a | n/a | n/a | n/a |
| UCLA ** | Pac-12 | Big Ten | $ 5,919,423 | 36,016,831 | 17,494,361 | 18,522,470 |
| Washington ** | Pac-12 | Big Ten | $ 9,406,794 | 57,235,798 | 29,198,790 | 28,037,008 |
| Wisconsin | Big Ten | Big Ten | $ 8,982,406 | 54,653,602 | 38,117,093 | 16,536,509 |
Fran probably has the best combination of guards he has ever had. The problem is the lack of rebounding and defense around the basket. I thought that would be better this year, mostly because Krikke and PMac were awful defensively. I thought Owen and Ladji would be better. The improvement, if any, is only marginal.
His dad's top priorities on the defensive end are avoiding fouls and switching to offense so it really makes perfect sense.
You only last that long if you're highly successful or the expectations are very low and Iowa hasn't been highly successful for a long time.
Spot on. F McC does not seem fully involved this year. Appears very disinterested from time and definitely not as intense. He may not be able to live without competing somewhere in something, but at McC's age retirement starts looking better than it did eve a year ago.
It's much easier to throw personal invective than adapt expectations to meet reality.
Well, this is the first time in many years he hasn't had a family member on the team, so that may have something to do with it. He might have the McC fatigue from being in the same place so long, much like the fans. He still gets after recruiting and seems to enjoy coaching.
The C/U campus is like a major city within a small city. A lot to do and very modernized. Nothing like IC.
Exactly what I loved about IC for the 7+ years I lived there from 1975-1983. I can imagine recruits from large cities maybe not feeling totally at home, but otherwise, not much that wouldn't be very attractive about IC, even 50 years ago.
Please tell me this is tongue in cheek. Despite what Jess settles says Connor was not “elite”.
Connor was one of Iowa's most important players his last two years. Before that, he got too much time.
Garzas last year was the perfect example of why Fran has a hard ceiling.
THIS x 1,000,000.... How he couldn't see it is beyond me. He fell in love with telling every visiting announcer that conner was a glue guy and great passer.... had to play him....
Him getting too much time too early is the reason he had a "role" his last two seasons. He was a career 3 rpg 2 apg, 42% from 2, 31% from 3. he averaged 3.5 apg the 2 years Luka was national player of the year and rarely missed shots.
Connor did become the glue guy and was a really good passer, but not until his last two years. Fran played both of his sons way too much when Luka and both of the Murray bros were on the team. Patrick should never have been more than a 10-15 min guy off the bench.
How about no!!!!!! Couldn’t shoot, couldn’t defend, couldn’t create. He could feed the post well tho!
You obviously don't like the Mac clan, which is your choice, but without Connor, Iowa would have won a lot fewer games his last two years, especially his senior year. I probably agree with your opinion of Patrick.
Patrick was actually decent his first couple years. Connor also really hurt recruiting. Any guard recruit would seriously have to question coming to Iowa and having to compete with the coaches son, who’s going to get every chance to play and then some. Ask Joe T.
