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First college student has died. PSU student. Things like this could really start changing things. Dorms and classrooms are just breeding grounds for covid spread.
 
First college student has died. PSU student. Things like this could really start changing things. Dorms and classrooms are just breeding grounds for covid spread.
The question is how many millions of college employees are you willing to lay-off for a few college deaths? Likely see entire DIII schools close completely if there is no sports/dorms.

you would save way more lives if tobacco was illegal and lowered the speed limit to 30mph and required all passengers to wear helmets.
 
The question is how many millions of college employees are you willing to lay-off for a few college deaths? Likely see entire DIII schools close completely if there is no sports/dorms.

you would save way more lives if tobacco was illegal and lowered the speed limit to 30mph and required all passengers to wear helmets.

1) Lots, you can get jobs back after covid. You can't get lives back. This is why effective and coordinated national and state responses to this are needed. We are dealing with this in a totally irrational way unlike countries around the world except for places like Brazil. We just saw the State of Iowa cut more money from the university budgets in a time when they need that money more than ever. Instead they should have been finding ways they can get them more money to help with costs of making the university a safer place for students, faculty and staff or a way of deferring helping with costs so they don't have to lay off too many people. The cost of testing alone is probably not feasible for the smaller schools. There are already starting to be smaller colleges that are cancelling fall sports. Grinnell is the first one in Iowa and there will be more.
2) We aren't just talking about deaths either. There are severe long term effects of this virus even if you don't die and they are still trying to figure everything out about it. I mean at first they thought it was just a respiratory virus and now they know it is a cardiovascular virus that does way more damage throughout the body that the first knew. I know of two people in their twenties that got Covid and were sick for over two months with fever and respiratory symptoms that just kept coming back and can no longer do simple things without getting out of breadth. If this happens to kids on campus, do you think they will be able to finish the semester?
3) Tobacco and speed limit comparisons are just nonsensical. Even if they were similar things we do a ton to limit the deaths of each. Speed and traffic laws, safety requirements for cars, seatbelts, air bags, drinking age moved to 21, etc. No smoking indoors, no smoking on campus, can't sell to people under 21. Health warnings on packs, laws on how they can advertise etc. The more knowledge that was gained on second hand smoke the more states and feds did to limit the exposure of non-smokers to cigarette smoke.
To limit the effect of Covid you have to have measures in place to do that.
4) The virus will control things. Meaning, if the right safety protocols aren't in place on campus you will likely see money loss and layoffs anyway because you will see kids taking a gap year or just taking online classes for a year.
 
You have something to dispute this or are you just ignorant to how deaths are counted?
I'm confused. If the point is to reduce the population using Covid19 to create a new world order, why overstate deaths? Wouldn't it be better to hide them so people feel it's not a big deal and get infected? How is anyone served by counting a car crash as a Covid19 death?

From where I'm sitting here, Trump has been pretty successful in reducing the population of the US using this disease. Maybe he's part of the NWO? Was electing a populist president in 2016 all part of the plan for COVID19?
 

They get some extra money bc of the cares act for Medicare patients but that’s largely bc it is very expensive to treat Covid 19 patients. No one is exaggerating Covid 19. That’s completely false. And they lose money on Medicare patients. One of the reasons hospital budgets are a mess with all of this. Hospitals make most of their money on elective surgery.

And car accidents don’t get counted as Covid deaths. They test people but it’s not the cause of death.
 
They get some extra money bc of the cares act for Medicare patients but that’s largely bc it is very expensive to treat Covid 19 patients. No one is exaggerating Covid 19. That’s completely false. And they lose money on Medicare patients. One of the reasons hospital budgets are a mess with all of this. Hospitals make most of their money on elective surgery.

And car accidents don’t get counted as Covid deaths. They test people but it’s not the cause of death.
Lots of "friend whose brother-in-law is an ER doctor heard" to keep this myth going.
 
Facts make you laugh. Executive order to force nursing homes to take COVID-19 patients is a fact.
Do you know why? Bc at the time they needed to make room for more patients. In addition all a home had to do was say that they couldn’t take on the person safely and they would be moved to a facility that could. Was it handled perfectly? No but they other states were doing this as well bc there wasn’t an alternative setup.
 
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They get some extra money bc of the cares act for Medicare patients but that’s largely bc it is very expensive to treat Covid 19 patients. No one is exaggerating Covid 19. That’s completely false.

Why are people who haven't even been tested being counted towards the COVID case count then? Is that not the definition of exaggerating/inflating the positive cases?
 
Why are people who haven't even been tested being counted towards the COVID case count then? Is that not the definition of exaggerating/inflating the positive cases?
No. They don’t just on a whim put people as likely Covid. They look at symptoms and other factors etc. Again, the case count is under what the true total is. I take it you are a big conspiracy believing person?
 
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No. They don’t just on a whim put people as likely Covid. They look at symptoms and other factors etc. Again, the case count is under what the true total is. I take it you are a big conspiracy believing person?

Lol ok- so they consider other factors but you're agreeing the CDC counts people who have not even been tested, correct?

And if the case count is under the true total then the death rate is substantially lower than stated, correct?
 
Lol ok- so they consider other factors but you're agreeing the CDC counts people who have not even been tested, correct?

And if the case count is under the true total then the death rate is substantially lower than stated, correct?

There’s a relatively high probability of having a false negative test. The test must also be done in a certain time frame to return a positive result. Therefore there are deaths that qualified professionals with medical degrees determine to be the result of COVID that Fox News scholars like yourself can’t comprehend. This clinical judgement is used to determine cause of death for many patients with many pathologies. It is not the conspiracy you’re being blindly lead to believe it is.

Here’s a quote from the article YOU shared “Jensen said he thinks the overall number of COVID-19 cases have been undercounted based on limitations in the number of tests available.”
 
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