2021 Colorado St. @ Kinnick
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Please god no... why the hell would iowa travel to Colorado state??
Please God yes I wish it was! But no it isn’t. I’m going to throw a hell of a party at Kinnick for my Iowa friends & CSU clients!
CSU’s stadium kicks ass & microbrews sold throughout the stadium! Check out the New Belgium end zone.
Iowa missed a real great opportunity to play here for numerous reasons. We’re about the only Power 5 team not playing at CSU in this 5 year span.
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Only a one-game deal. Fort Collins would be a nice road trip for Iowa fans, though. Really pretty out there.
I have to give credit to CSU for their scheduling. They have scheduled teams like Alabama, Florida, and Iowa in addition to playing Corado.
I have to give credit to CSU for their scheduling. They have scheduled teams like Alabama, Florida, and Iowa in addition to playing Corado.
Iowa, Colorado, Arkansas, Oregon State, Vanderbilt, Alabama, Florida, Texas Tech, Boston College, Minnesota, Washington State, & Arizona just to name a few.
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So those are the nonconference opponents for Colorado State. Meanwhile, the mighty Iowa Hawkeyes of the legendary Big Ten Conference, the Hawkeyes led by the courageous GB and the bold KF, take on the likes of Northern Illinois, FCS Northern Iowa, Arkansas State, Western Michigan, et al. Colorado State must not be one of those "developmental programs."
Anyway, yes, it would be nice if the CSU thing were home and away, but at least it will be nice to have Colorado State coming to Kinnick rather than UNI or the other typical nonconference foes that have been littering Iowa's schedule for far too long.
Colorado State is trying hard to be invited to a power conference if there is another round of expansion.
Should be a two for one. Play twice in Kinnick, once in Ft. Collins.
Until we jump into the present-day realities of college football and do what Wisconsin has been, and is doing with OOC home/home/neutral games against programs like LSU, Notre Dame, etc., we're never going to shake the rep of cupcake scheduling. And it will always bite us in the ass with rankings and national perception.
Wow, someone bitching about Iowa's non-conference schedule? That's new. Are any of those teams traveling to CSU's stadium? Does CSU play a 9 game conference schedule while simultaneously locked into a home/home with a non-conference P5 team?
This has been discussed ad nauseum. Why some people either can't grasp the situation or refuse to acknowledge it is beyond me. Always comparing apples to oranges. Sheesh.
Unless Iowa drops the ISU game or the B1G goes back to an 8 game conference schedule, Iowa isn’t scheduling another P5 in ooc.
And they play who during the rest of the season? Their OCC is like our in-conference schedule
I understand why Iowa won't play at CSU but Ft Collins is a sweet town. And if you ever get the chance to tour New Belgium brewing... do it.
Cripes! They're like the Pat Hill Fresno State teams from 15 or so years ago - "Anybody, anywhere, anytime."
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Thanks for asking:
* In 2015 Minnesota played AT Colorado State...and the Gophers lost 23-20 in OT.
* In 2017 Oregon State played AT CSU and lost, 58-27.
I also would point out a few other recent Big Ten football team road trips:
* In 2015 #5 Michigan State played AT Western Michigan
* In 2016 Indiana AND Maryland played AT Florida International--but not on the same day
* Maryland also played AT Central Florida in 2016
* In 2017 Illinois played AT South Florida
So, IMHO, if Iowa were bold enough to play AT Colorado State, it would not exactly be unprecedented in P5 football.
And has been stated many times, if Iowa would do the right thing and schedule Iowa State once every two or three years, that would greatly enhance the opportunities for Iowa to play a game of national interest in those other years. But GB and KF, unlike Barry Alvarez, don't seem to be so inclined.
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So...you ignored the 2nd part of my question: Did any of these teams have a 9 game conference schedule while locked into an annual home/home with a non-conference P5 opponent?
My point wasn't that Iowa shouldn't travel to CSU (although I'm pretty sure people would consider that a lame trip since most weren't satisfied with Syracuse, Pitt, ASU, etc.). My point was that you seem to think Iowa has room in it's schedule for an away game while still playing a 9 game conference schedule and locked into ISU home/home.
I'm sure the large sums of money these schools pay CSU has some incentive to their scheduling.
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Yes, it has been discussed ad nauseum. Iowa would go bankrupt without 7 home games. The other schools who don't cling to the "have to have 7 home games" mantra will soon be eliminating football.
I don't think CSU is hurting that bad for money. Their state is doing pretty well financially and can probably support them to the extent they need. Is it possible they are trying to show they belong in a better conference? Is it possible the people there want to show they can compete? I truly don't know the answer but I don't think it is the slam dunk you are suggesting.
Yes! Most all of those P5 teams are coming to Ft Collins. Including Minn. Now what’s Iowa’s excuse?
9 conference games and ISU issue. If Iowa were to ever have flexibility to schedule a home and home with someone besides ISU I'd hope they'd try for another Power 5 team and not Colorado St. We aren't ISU who have done home and homes with the likes of Akron, Kent St, Toledo, UNLV etc.
Right now unless something changes if Iowa were to play another Power 5 we would need have a game played at a neutral site where Iowa would reap the benefits of getting $ and be a defacto 7th home game. Barta on record saying something to this effect after week 1 in 16' with all the big time games being played that opening weekend he would be open to something like that. To avg. fans easy to say play 6 home 6 away and schedule that other team and I'm no where close of being a fan of barta but it does make sense financially which is part of his job. If you look majority of teams with 6 home games still are able to get revenue this way by having that 7th game as neutral site.
Give up a 7th home game to play at CSU? Please. I've seen some stupid ideas here but I hope that's not what you're suggesting, as that would rank up there as one of the worst.
Iowa doesn't need an excuse. Schools schedule as well as they're able to. Alabama isn't playing in Ft. Collins because they don't need to and it doesn't make financial sense. Same with Iowa.
Why doesn't CSU sign a below-market one-game contract to play at Kinnick? What is their excuse?
I am so looking forward to this. I am in Fort Collins right now. Iowa missed out in not playing here.
I would love to take a trip there for a game. Went there when I was a teenager and was blown away by the beauty of the place.
You do realize you can go there even if there isn't a football game, right?
Not everybody is happy no matter what. Just go independent so we can schedule 11 quality opponents (on the road - of course) and isu at home. I am sure Alabama, Clemson, Texas, Oklahoma, USC & UCLA (on back to back weekends and stay in Cal whole week) and throw a trip to a MAC school for good measure.
No shit? Wow! I could have had a V8!
Yup. That is exactly what everyone is suggesting.
All I am suggesting is doing away with either the MAC or UNI slot on the schedule and either doing a home-and- home or a neutral-site game with a legit P5 opponent. I am an advocate of shifting ISU to a 2-year-on, 2-year-off arrangement to make it tenable. Why won't the powers that be consider that? How does Iowa playing ISU every year make Iowa better? How does playing UNI or NDSU make Iowa better?
Why would Iowa travel to a non power five? They would have a higher chance of getting upset, with no actual upside if they won. Teams like CSU can come to Kinnick to play.
How does Alabama playing Arksansas State and Louisiana-Lafayette make them better?
There are financial realities to football scheduling which a big chunk of the Iowa fanbase refuses to accept.
You make a good point that Iowa should only be playing isu once every 3 years to allow for better scheduling in the years when they don't play. It's a farce that the isu AD reportedly wouldn't agree to something like this when Iowa had a game vs Notre Dame in the works.
This seems like the ideal compromise and it's what I'd like to see as well. I'm still hoping the next contract negotiation with ISU leaves this as an option. I'm not holding my breath though because I chatted with Gary Barta about this and he said that the vast majority of the feedback he gets is in favor of retaining the ISU matchup. I'm not sure if that leaves cutting back as an option or not.
I get very little joy from beating ISU. It is really more relief that we didn't lose to a cupcake. I can handle losing to OSU and Wisconsin when it is clear they are better than Iowa in a given season. There is nothing worse that the kicked-in-the-nuts feeling that goes with losing to ISU or NDSU, Central Michigan, or having to block two consecutive field goals to avoid losing to mighty UNI. I would take an ass-pounding from an SEC team over that every time because at least you would be showing your players what they have to do to compete at the highest level. I remember Miami beating the Hawks down there in 90. I really believe it helped toughen them up for the conference schedule that year. They learned they weren't hopelessly behind Miami and that they could compete with good teams.
You honestly can’t be this dumb......you do realize CSU’s need to play this games in comparison to P5 teams right. The financial need is obvious, they get paid to travel to these games. You also realize the difference between the MWC and the Big Ten and the SOS. You also realize that if P5 teams scheduled each other CSU wouldn’t be able to schedule these games. I think some people just love to bitch about something-now we have tiger hawk at midfield and water tower we must now find something to bitch about......I guess it’s our non conference schedule now. You also realize that all 3 of the teams we play this year won at least 8 games and one team won their bowl game and another beat Nebby @ Lincoln ...but don’t let me stop you from being miserable
Colorado ranks in the bottom 1/3 at funding public education and 48th when compared to its economy. Taught HS there until this year and the “weed” money is going to other things. Teachers striking, etc. CSU definitely needs the check-have former players on the team, they traveled to Bama to get their asses kicked and collect the check. Coloradians do not care about HS and college athletics. It’s broncos broncos broncos
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