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2021 Colorado St. @ Kinnick

Colorado ranks in the bottom 1/3 at funding public education and 48th when compared to its economy. Taught HS there until this year and the “weed” money is going to other things. Teachers striking, etc. CSU definitely needs the check-have former players on the team, they traveled to Bama to get their asses kicked and collect the check. Coloradians do not care about HS and college athletics. It’s broncos broncos broncos
They actually played Ala tough. Both times
 
CSU lost the games 31-6 and 41-23. The second one, they trailed 41-10 before scoring two late TDs.
 
So those are the nonconference opponents for Colorado State. Meanwhile, the mighty Iowa Hawkeyes of the legendary Big Ten Conference, the Hawkeyes led by the courageous GB and the bold KF, take on the likes of Northern Illinois, FCS Northern Iowa, Arkansas State, Western Michigan, et al. Colorado State must not be one of those "developmental programs."

Anyway, yes, it would be nice if the CSU thing were home and away, but at least it will be nice to have Colorado State coming to Kinnick rather than UNI or the other typical nonconference foes that have been littering Iowa's schedule for far too long.
I get it, but lets not act like we don't play in the BIG for the remaining 9 games either. Obviously CSU has something their working toward here, and I'm pretty sure if they played in the PAC 12 currently this would not be anything like what their non-con would look like.
 
Lol, you must not know much about football then. It was a 2 score game at the half playing at the Nat Champs home field. I’d say that’s playing them pretty tough.
Not a lot but enough to get tickets from a few starters at CSU that I coached in HS. I was proud of the effort for sure, but not once during the game did I or anybody think- holy cow the Rams might actually pull this off. They learned some thing and got a paycheck....as I said
 
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Not a lot but enough to get tickets from a few starters at CSU that I coached in HS. I was proud of the effort for sure, but not once during the game did I or anybody think- holy cow the Rams might actually pull this off. They learned some thing and got a paycheck....as I said
I didn’t say they threatened to beat them. Who does really? But it was a 7 point game & almost halftime. Ala scored at the end of the half (I think) to make it only a 14 point lead.

That’s playing them tough. And as far as the other game they played Ala, see my post above.
 
I didn’t say they threatened to beat them. Who does really? But it was a 7 point game & almost halftime. Ala scored at the end of the half (I think) to make it only a 14 point lead.

That’s playing them tough. And as far as the other game they played Ala, see my post above.
Ok so you are talking 2013 game, I was talking last year. Bama looked 1/2 asleep the entire game and was still up 17-0 at half. CSU kicked 2 FG’s in 3rd quarter 17-6, Bama 14-0 in 4th. Good effort by CSU yes
 
Colorado ranks in the bottom 1/3 at funding public education and 48th when compared to its economy. Taught HS there until this year and the “weed” money is going to other things. Teachers striking, etc. CSU definitely needs the check-have former players on the team, they traveled to Bama to get their asses kicked and collect the check. Coloradians do not care about HS and college athletics. It’s broncos broncos broncos

Sir, my hat is off to you. I truly did not know that was the case there. I did some research and it completely backs up everything you said about school funding there. Thank you for the education.
 
Sir, my hat is off to you. I truly did not know that was the case there. I did some research and it completely backs up everything you said about school funding there. Thank you for the education.
Yeah I taught and coaches there for 10+ years. Loved it and was excited about marijuana legalization bc it was to help fund education, which it does but its only like the 20 million or something. That is a drop in the bucket when spread out across the state-especially when you look at how much revenue it brings in. Teachers #1 question in CO was is “where’s the weed money?” The cost of living has increased dramatically and funding has not kept up, teachers pay remained the same and boom we have an issue. My old coworkers are getting raises after 3-4 years of being on pay freezes due to organized strikes last year and people like me saying deuces
 
You honestly can’t be this dumb......you do realize CSU’s need to play this games in comparison to P5 teams right. The financial need is obvious, they get paid to travel to these games. You also realize the difference between the MWC and the Big Ten and the SOS. You also realize that if P5 teams scheduled each other CSU wouldn’t be able to schedule these games. I think some people just love to bitch about something-now we have tiger hawk at midfield and water tower we must now find something to bitch about......I guess it’s our non conference schedule now. You also realize that all 3 of the teams we play this year won at least 8 games and one team won their bowl game and another beat Nebby @ Lincoln ...but don’t let me stop you from being miserable

With respect, winning in Lincoln was no accomplishment last year. Hell, winning in L'Ames was much more of an accomplishment.
Yes, NIU has the potential to be a solid MAC team this year. And if the Hawks run the table on their three noncons, who outside Iowa is going to be impressed? How many blue chip HS players are going to say "wow, if I go to Iowa, I will get to play NIU and Middle Tennessee?"
I will concede that in today's climate, 7 home games is the expectation. I think I could propose ways to live with 6 every three years or so, but I know no one cares. The argument that the majority of Iowa fans want to keep the ISU game every year is either disingenuous on the part of the administration or very depressing if true. There is nothing about that game that helps Iowa.
 
Ok so you are talking 2013 game, I was talking last year. Bama looked 1/2 asleep the entire game and was still up 17-0 at half. CSU kicked 2 FG’s in 3rd quarter 17-6, Bama 14-0 in 4th. Good effort by CSU yes
No I was talking about last year’s game. Re-read my post.

At the end I mentioned the 2014 game.
 
So our program wants to emulate the blue bloods of Minny, Oregon St, Indiana, Maryland, and Illinois?
(Wasn’t that MSU-WMU game at Ford Field?)


Thanks for asking:

* In 2015 Minnesota played AT Colorado State...and the Gophers lost 23-20 in OT.

* In 2017 Oregon State played AT CSU and lost, 58-27.

I also would point out a few other recent Big Ten football team road trips:

* In 2015 #5 Michigan State played AT Western Michigan

* In 2016 Indiana AND Maryland played AT Florida International--but not on the same day
* Maryland also played AT Central Florida in 2016

* In 2017 Illinois played AT South Florida

So, IMHO, if Iowa were bold enough to play AT Colorado State, it would not exactly be unprecedented in P5 football.

And has been stated many times, if Iowa would do the right thing and schedule Iowa State once every two or three years, that would greatly enhance the opportunities for Iowa to play a game of national interest in those other years. But GB and KF, unlike Barry Alvarez, don't seem to be so inclined.
 
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With respect, winning in Lincoln was no accomplishment last year. Hell, winning in L'Ames was much more of an accomplishment.
Yes, NIU has the potential to be a solid MAC team this year. And if the Hawks run the table on their three noncons, who outside Iowa is going to be impressed? How many blue chip HS players are going to say "wow, if I go to Iowa, I will get to play NIU and Middle Tennessee?"
I will concede that in today's climate, 7 home games is the expectation. I think I could propose ways to live with 6 every three years or so, but I know no one cares. The argument that the majority of Iowa fans want to keep the ISU game every year is either disingenuous on the part of the administration or very depressing if true. There is nothing about that game that helps Iowa.
Agree with the 6 home games once every 5 years or so. Especially if the road game is in a cool place or an interesting matchup, like Ft Collins & CSU.

I’d like to have an interesting road game option as a fan every few years. I think most people would like to have the option to travel & enjoy checking out different college towns & stadiums across the country & get to see the Hawks.
 
With respect, winning in Lincoln was no accomplishment last year. Hell, winning in L'Ames was much more of an accomplishment.
Yes, NIU has the potential to be a solid MAC team this year. And if the Hawks run the table on their three noncons, who outside Iowa is going to be impressed? How many blue chip HS players are going to say "wow, if I go to Iowa, I will get to play NIU and Middle Tennessee?"
I will concede that in today's climate, 7 home games is the expectation. I think I could propose ways to live with 6 every three years or so, but I know no one cares. The argument that the majority of Iowa fans want to keep the ISU game every year is either disingenuous on the part of the administration or very depressing if true. There is nothing about that game that helps Iowa.
Yes a win in Lincoln was not much a feat last year, but at the time it was I suppose (who would have thought Nebby would be that awful). I am not really worried about who is or is not impressed with a 3-0 non conference, if these 3 teams have good years the formulas that take opponents record into account is really all that matters. I am not saying I agree with it or not, because it doesn't really matter what I think. Does it help to constantly bitch about things that are completely out of my control. Is Barta going to come on here and be like "oh shit the fanbase on HR is angry" of course not. I simply focus on controlling what I can control, I am an Iowa fan so I will support Iowa and not worry about things that really don't matter-b/c in all honesty Iowa's nonconference schedule is actually tougher than most P5 schools or at minimum on par with them....yet here we are bitching about it. I guess it is more advice than anything else, I used to get wrapped up in thinking I had answers to everything. Realized I didn't and now I just turn on the TV every saturday and enjoy watching the Swarm run out to back n black :)
 
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So...you ignored the 2nd part of my question: Did any of these teams have a 9 game conference schedule while locked into an annual home/home with a non-conference P5 opponent?

My point wasn't that Iowa shouldn't travel to CSU (although I'm pretty sure people would consider that a lame trip since most weren't satisfied with Syracuse, Pitt, ASU, etc.). My point was that you seem to think Iowa has room in it's schedule for an away game while still playing a 9 game conference schedule and locked into ISU home/home.

FSU plays @ Boise State in 2020, along with playing florida and West Virginia. That’s 10 power 5 schools along with playing at smurf field.
 
Iowa, Colorado, Arkansas, Oregon State, Vanderbilt, Alabama, Florida, Texas Tech, Boston College, Minnesota, Washington State, & Arizona just to name a few.

So those are the nonconference opponents for Colorado State. Meanwhile, the mighty Iowa Hawkeyes of the legendary Big Ten Conference, the Hawkeyes led by the courageous GB and the bold KF, take on the likes of Northern Illinois, FCS Northern Iowa, Arkansas State, Western Michigan, et al. Colorado State must not be one of those "developmental programs."

Anyway, yes, it would be nice if the CSU thing were home and away, but at least it will be nice to have Colorado State coming to Kinnick rather than UNI or the other typical nonconference foes that have been littering Iowa's schedule for far too long.
Give it up man. You do realize we play nine games a year in one of the top two most physical conferences in America, not to mention playing an annual rivalry game against what is now a highly regarded Power 5 opponent.
 
After 16 years posting on this board, and viewing the probably 100 different scheduling threads each year repeating the exact same pissing and moaning every damn time from the exact same posters - I've come to the conclusion that there must be some sort of Olympic level Iowa non-con complaining marathon training regimen out there I don't know about - because they do seem to be tireless.

It really, truly is ridiculous. Me? Colorado State? Hell, I'm happy it ain't a MAC or FCS team.

And I'm off to another subject...see how easy that was? Why?

Because over 16 years, not one single solitary post here has changed Iowa's scheduling practices...but go ahead, scream the same old crap over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over...THIS TIME they will listen.
 
Regardless of your opinion on the matter, this is a strong candidate for post of the year for bagdropper.
 
Why would Iowa waste a road non conference game on CSU?

1) Recruiting in the State has picked up
2) Amazing setting for Hawks to travel to
3) Better option than the yearly w/ ISU (I realize some of this is out of our power, but still true)
4) What better options are presenting themselves for road non-con? Want to head back to AZ?
 
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How does Alabama playing Arksansas State and Louisiana-Lafayette make them better?

There are financial realities to football scheduling which a big chunk of the Iowa fanbase refuses to accept.

One way those games make them better is they typically have a game like the above right before Auburn. I’d like it if Iowa had a tune up (bye?) week before playing our final conference game(s).

But your broad point stands. There are financial realities. I’m glad Iowa can play 7 Home games.

To those who think it makes any difference, I’ll tell you that 2015 showed you what happens when a B1G team goes 12-0. Why people still worry about this is beyond me.
 
Iowa plays 10 P5 schools every year.

Yep, and your issue was that Iowa wouldn’t play a road game in Ft Collins because they played 10 P5 schools and others don’t. I showed you that bigger programs than Iowa will.
 
Yep, and your issue was that Iowa wouldn’t play a road game in Ft Collins because they played 10 P5 schools and others don’t. I showed you that bigger programs than Iowa will.

Yeah they play there and still keep 7 home games. Most have a power 5 at home or they don’t play any power 5 when they travel to CSU. Or in the past team like Minnesota did when it was easier when big 10 still had 4 non conference game. For the millionth time with isu and 9 conference games it makes absolutely zero sense to play a game on the road vs CSU.
 
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In the 31-6 game the score was 17-6 with 11 minutes left in the game. I’d say that’s playing Ala tough @ Ala.

You have a really low bar for "tough".

Iowa lost 38-14 at Wisconsin last year, but was only down 14 to start the fourth quarter, so I guess we should say they played them really tough.
 
CSU probably sells more tickets than Minnesota does

They do alright...but not quite. CSU averaged 32,000 at home last year (one of the biggest increases in college football). Even Northwestern (last in the B1G) outdrew them. Minnesota was 9th in the B1G.
 
It’s amazing how many fans want us to put ourselves at a competitive disadvantage vs other teams by scheduling tougher.

I’m guessing this same group also thinks we should win 10 games each year.
 
You have a really low bar for "tough".

Iowa lost 38-14 at Wisconsin last year, but was only down 14 to start the fourth quarter, so I guess we should say they played them really tough.
Yeah because comparing P5 Iowa against Wis is just like non P5 CSU @ the national Champion Ala. Derp!
 
Let's all be real here. Enough of the p*ssing contest.

I don't think anyone can deny that Ft. Collins is a fun place to visit and would be a great setting for a Hawkeye football game. But the bottom line is that a game like that isn't going to happen anytime soon. In order for Iowa to have 7 home games, non-conference road games outside of Ames are not going to happen. Assuming the Iowa State series continues as-is for the foreseeable future, Iowa would have to give up that 7th home game to have a different non-conference road game. IF Iowa ever does this, it won't be so that they can play in front of 32K fans at a G5 school.

I would like to see an occasional hiatus from the Iowa State series so that Iowa could have some unique non-conference home-home series with other P5 schools and maybe even against solid G5 schools like CSU. Something else that would solve the issue is if the NCAA would allow schools to occasionally schedule a 13th game (sort of an extension of the "Hawaii rule, " maybe in years like 2019 when there is an extra Saturday between Labor Day and Thanksgiving), which I could see happening eventually.
 
The only way it could be done, is in a season where we have ISMoo at home and 5 home games in the B1G. That would preserve the 7 home game floor.
 
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