this is really important and interesting information
26 UI student-athletes are being investigated for online gambling, incl in Wrestling, Men’s Basketball, Football, Baseball, Men’s track & field
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It’s a slap on the wrist by the law, but the NCAA will rule they’re completely ineligible.
As it should be. Kids shouldn’t be betting on their teams or insider knowledge on their university sports.
Idk how the app works, but they were probably tracking the IP address. And if he was doing it on his phone they may have looked at the time stamps of the bets along with the cell tower he was using.
Assuming he was running a book…If a book has a value of $45,640 in total wagers how much is that worth to a bookie? Assume it went on for a year, that’s $877 a week or 24 bets a week. Doesn’t sound like it would be worth that much. Maybe enough to cover someone’s less than successful gambling habit or make a little bit of profit each month
Most apps use geo locators that track location. So yeah, that makes complete sense. He would have needed his mothers b date and most likely her ssn to sign up for the app, but given that most parents share that information freely with their college aged kids it’s not entirely unheard of. I’m sure she’s not happy about this now.
Betting on your own team is unethical and he should be off the team. Especially since he’s in the position to directly affect the outcome of a game with a kick. Thank god he didn’t play in the game he bet on.
@ping72 brought up a good point when he said that they have to be able to track where the bet is placed; I hear all the time people from Illinois side of the Quad Cities traveling into Iowa, placing bets, and heading back to Illinois.
So, when you sign up for the app, you have to allow your location to be be shared. And when the bets were placed in Iowa City but the account holder lives somewhere else, it was an easy red flag.
You know the cool thing? The really neat thing? We’re legally allowed to do this and not restricted by any job or educational rules that prohibit us from using the apps.
You have to be an absolute moron to use these apps if it risks your career. Do what others did in the day. But a football card and pay the guy cash.
I did that when I lived in Iowa and lost. 🤷♂️ It was illegal but no one would ever find out. Maybe they should use a credit card in their name , buy banned supplements and PEDs then sell them , taking zelle , PayPal, or Venmo as payment .
They were stupid.
Yeah, don’t be stupid and do something that can easily be checked if you’re prohibited from doing so.
Doesn't that scare some of you guys? They can tell where the bet was placed. Another words, they can track you anywhere . I guess that means no one cares about privacy anymore or have we just accept the fact that it no longer exists?I saw this posted on BWI:
Aaron Blom accused of underage sports wagering, including bet on Iowa football
University of Iowa football player Aaron Blom faces a charge of tampering with records as a result of the Iowa Division of Criminal Investigation’s sports gambling investigation.www.thegazette.com
It seems they can tell the location of the bets so even if you use say your older brothers or dad’s account information they can figure out if you actually placed the bet.
Being young and stupid seem to go hand in hand. Lets hope the people in charge have some common sense.
if they bet on their own games, then throw the book at them.
idgaf if a college athlete wants to bet on the NFL, stanley cup, or world series, and frankly I don't get why anyone would care.
idgaf if a college athlete wants to bet on the NFL, stanley cup, or world series, and frankly I don't get why anyone would care.
Why? Young and stupid goes out the window when you are lectured on this. Then you use an app where everything is tracked? they were previously warned about this and did it anyway. It's not even some side benefit like an alumnus buying you dinner or sneakers that you could cover up, you are broadcasting it to "the man".
Old guy analogy here. Curtis Enis received a suit from an agent, somehow he was recognized at the store and it got out. This was 1997 going into the bowl season. He was immediately ineligible. Stupid kid mistake that he paid for, he then entered the draft and I believe was a first round pick back then but still. You can't make it easy for them.
Kids and their damn phones.
Why? Getting in over your head and the people who take bets ask for favors. Or they jsut ask for favors and they own you since you were betting when you weren't allowed.
Not a new thing. Not by a longshot. Ever heard of Google? Facebook? Twitter? Have a cell phone? My guess is you will be shocked to learn what you've agreed to share about yourself by using various websites, devices, & apps.
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Do you own a smartphone of any kind? If so, I've got some bad news for you.....
Would you want the book thrown at them if they bet on their own games to win?? Seems quite a bit different than betting against your team to lose.
That was more of a risk prior prior to gambling being legalized than it is now. I could see the shady bag man you met up with in the mall parking lot asking favors if you were deep in the hole.
The online books require you to deposit money up front. And DraftKings or Circa sports aren't going to ask you to shave points like the bag man might.
I agree not as serious of an offense, but still problematic, especially if betting on your team to cover the spread
Because it can be an addiction, leading players/betters to do things to get out of debt, maybe?
I was sitting in an airport in Tampa last week and couldn’t even open my FanDuels account because I was in FL
ya...you are over thinking this. You bet for the action. The action doesn't make you bet.
I saw this posted on BWI:
Aaron Blom accused of underage sports wagering, including bet on Iowa football
University of Iowa football player Aaron Blom faces a charge of tampering with records as a result of the Iowa Division of Criminal Investigation’s sports gambling investigation.
It seems they can tell the location of the bets so even if you use say your older brothers or dad’s account information they can figure out if you actually placed the bet.
The thing is, if someone lives in Minnesota (on the border), the bettor has to physically be in Iowa to place bets; that's why they need to track your location.
What follows is from a Jul 12, 2023 article. You can't tell me what they are finding at Iowa and Iowa State is not happening at other schools where sports betting is legal in their states. Here is just a sample of those schools: LSU, Tennessee, Arkansas, Kansas, Kansas State, Arizona, Arizona State, Colorado, Ohio State, Cincinnati, Michigan, Michigan State, Penn State, Illinois, Indiana, Maryland, Rutgers, Oregon, Virginia, Virginia Tech, Syracuse, West Virginia, UNLV, UMass, UConn and Wyoming.
Where Is Sports Betting Legal?
Use the links to jump to your state.| State | Online | In-Person |
|---|---|---|
| Alabama | X | X |
| Alaska | X | X |
| Arizona | ✓ | ✓ |
| Arkansas | ✓ | ✓ |
| California | X | X |
| Colorado | ✓ | ✓ |
| Connecticut | ✓ | ✓ |
| Delaware | X | ✓ |
| Florida | X | X |
| Georgia | X | X |
| Hawaii | X | X |
| Idaho | X | X |
| Illinois | ✓ | ✓ |
| Indiana | ✓ | ✓ |
| Iowa | ✓ | ✓ |
| Kansas | ✓ | ✓ |
| Kentucky | Pending | Pending |
| Louisiana | ✓ | ✓ |
| Maine | Pending | Pending |
| Maryland | ✓ | ✓ |
| Massachusetts | ✓ | ✓ |
| Michigan | ✓ | ✓ |
| Minnesota | X | X |
| Mississippi | X | ✓ |
| Missouri | X | X |
| Montana | X | ✓ |
| Nebraska | X | Pending |
| Nevada | ✓ | ✓ |
| New Hampshire | ✓ | ✓ |
| New Jersey | ✓ | ✓ |
| New Mexico | X | ✓ |
| New York | ✓ | ✓ |
| North Carolina | Pending | ✓ |
| North Dakota | X | ✓ |
| Ohio | ✓ | ✓ |
| Oklahoma | X | X |
| Oregon | ✓ | ✓ |
| Pennsylvania | ✓ | ✓ |
| Rhode Island | ✓ | ✓ |
| South Carolina | X | X |
| South Dakota | X | ✓ |
| Tennessee | ✓ | X |
| Texas | X | X |
| Utah | X | X |
| Vermont | Pending | X |
| Virginia | ✓ | ✓ |
| Washington | X | ✓ |
| Washington D.C. | ✓ | ✓ |
| West Virginia | ✓ | ✓ |
| Wisconsin | X | ✓ |
| Wyoming | ✓ | X |
Online Sports Betting Legalization Tracker: Missouri Ballot Measure Passes Narrowly
Read more on the when experts think your state will officially legalize sports betting, both at physical locations and online.
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I agree w/ Bourbon. If someone knew about a student athlete's underage ILLEGAL gambling, they could "own" that student athlete and ask for favors. Here's just one example:
At age 19, Iowa kicker Aaron Blom betted the under for the 2021 iowa/ISU football game; he won that bet.
At age 20, in the 2022 Iowa/ISU game, he missed a game tying FG. Hopefully that was a legitimate miss and there was no pressure from anyone to miss (because someone knew about his underage gambling). There is no evidence he personally bet on this game.
Aaron was criminally charged yesterday for underage wagering and tampering; his Iowa Hawkeye career is likely over as well.
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yes you are correct, but i am asking about this specific occurence,if these guys are betting but not on iowa they would have lesser penalties, but if they bet on iowa sports then penalties higher.
anyone with a Google email account agrees to allow them to scan your messages (for key words). that is how you get those wonderful advertisements and that is how Google makes their billions.
It just makes it easier to say NO GAMBLING until your college eligibility is up. If that is too much to ask, then they shouldn't be a student athlete.
Are we really surprised? Smartphones are the double-edged blade few live without. Communications in emergency, sure (vehicle accidents, imminent danger, etc..), but a casino in your pocket, too. I’m fine with punishments here. If King Joe has me paying for clueless kids/parents running up loans on tuitions and room-and-board they can’t afford but ARE STILL RESPONSIBLE FOR, then expel or penalize those willfully breaking gambling rules. Old-school me expects college students to be literate and possess the reading comprehension skills to avoid such troubles. Of course, the real joke is thinking this only happens in Iowa.
It's way worse than that, even. I'm a little surprised that someone was so oblivious to this.
My dad refuses to get a smart phone. He uses a flip phone; that's all he needs and wants. He has said many times, "well, what if I don't want 'them' to know where I am?" Just hope he's not a serial killer or something.
Plot twist, constitutional rights may or may not have been violated.
who13.com
Iowa, ISU athletes unlawfully targeted in gambling sting, attorney for former Cyclone argues
STORY COUNTY, IOWA — The attorney for a former Iowa State Cyclone football player charged as part of a gambling sting is arguing that his clients and six other defendants were unlawfully targ…
who13.com
Plot twist, constitutional rights may or may not have been violated.
Iowa, ISU athletes unlawfully targeted in gambling sting, attorney for former Cyclone argues
STORY COUNTY, IOWA — The attorney for a former Iowa State Cyclone football player charged as part of a gambling sting is arguing that his clients and six other defendants were unlawfully targ…
was just about to post this. interesting defense.
doesn’t change the NCAA decision does it? they operate independently of the legal system and have never worried about ruling fairlyPlot twist, constitutional rights may or may not have been violated.
Iowa, ISU athletes unlawfully targeted in gambling sting, attorney for former Cyclone argues
STORY COUNTY, IOWA — The attorney for a former Iowa State Cyclone football player charged as part of a gambling sting is arguing that his clients and six other defendants were unlawfully targ…
my concern is this defense might drag out the process inadvertently as far as eligibility….. some of these athletes are down to last year of eligibility and they could wind up losing what eligibility they have left waiting to hear they’re getting a one game suspension
This is the Iowa State QB who bet on his own team and tampered with evidence.
You can't fix stupid.
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You can't fix stupid.
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