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26 UI student-athletes are being investigated for online gambling, incl in Wrestling, Men’s Basketball, Football, Baseball, Men’s track & field

Story from the Des Moines Register. Once again KF brings some really good insight to the topic. As you will read, he thinks this is an opportunity for the NCAA to reconsider two things: (1) what punishments might be that are fair and relevant to the world we're living in right now; and (2) better education process for student athletes.

Ferentz is hopeful the situation for his football team will be resolved in early August or late August at the latest.

The story:

Kirk Ferentz: 'Not a large number' of Iowa football players in sports gambling investigation​

Tyler Tachman
Des Moines Register
July 26, 2023


INDIANAPOLIS − Iowa coach Kirk Ferentz said Wednesday there is “not a large number” of Hawkeye football players involved in the NCAA’s investigation into sports gambling.

"Long story short, we don't really know what the outcome is going to be,” Ferentz said at Big Ten Media Days. “I don't think anyone condones gambling, especially on the college game. That being said, I've learned a lot the past two months just about gambling.”

Ferentz added: “I think your No. 1 concern, is anybody gambling on your (own) team? … I have no knowledge of anything like that."

Defensive lineman Noah Shannon was the first Iowa football player to be publicly named in the sports-gambling investigation that flagged 26 student-athletes at Iowa and approximately 15 at Iowa State.

“We live in a real different world right now,” Ferentz said. “I think what the NFL has done with their rules makes a lot of sense. I'm hopeful this is an opportunity for the NCAA maybe to reconsider two things − what punishments might be that are fair and relevant to the world we're living in right now. And then probably the bigger thing, there's an opportunity right now for a lot better education process, if you will."

More:Iowa football's Noah Shannon to miss Big Ten Media Days due to NCAA gambling investigation

Ferentz said that "nobody has been pulled from the program at all," meaning anyone involved in the investigation is expected to be able to participate in fall camp. Ferentz is hopeful the situation will be resolved in early August or late August at the latest. Iowa's season opener against Utah State is on Sept. 2.

Shannon was initially expected to be among Iowa’s representatives at Big Ten Media Days. But on July 19, Shannon’s involvement in the NCAA investigation into sports gambling was made public. Linebacker Jay Higgins served as Shannon’s replacement at Big Ten Media Days.

“Being selected to represent the Iowa Hawkeye football team at Big Ten Media Days is a tremendous honor and privilege,” Shannon said in a statement. “I am grateful for the opportunity. However, given the circumstances, I told Coach Ferentz it would (be) best for him to select another player. Since the NCAA review is not yet complete, I don’t feel it is right for me to represent the team.”

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Shannon has been a major contributor to Iowa's dominant defense, starting 27 games across the last two seasons. He tallied 44 total tackles last season.

“Noah Shannon’s one of our top, top guys. He’s just a tremendous young man, tremendous person," Ferentz said. "He may or may not have violated an NCAA rule. Time will tell. He has not broken any laws or rules. So he’s first class. I get to see that side of him and see how that’s affected him. He feels badly, that he’s even involved in this.”

According to NCAA guidelines, which are in effect for violations reported on or after May 2, 2023, Hawkeye players' college eligibility would be in jeopardy if they bet on Iowa games (in any sport). Players could lose half a season if they bet on any college football contests. For other wagering activity, they would face a loss of 30% of the season if they wagered more than $800, 20% of the season if they wagered between $501 and $800, 10% of the season for $201 to $500, and gambling education (no games missed) for $200 or less.

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"When I was a kid, it was cigarette commercials," Ferentz said. "Now it's gambling commercials. So I think we just really need to reshape our thinking about what's fair. And then also use this as a real educational opportunity to just make sure players understand that there might be some downside to this, too."


Follow Tyler Tachman on Twitter @Tyler_T15, contact him via email at ttachman@gannett.com


 
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There have been rumors that student athletes bet on the Iowa women's basketball team as they advanced to the National Championship game.

What do you guys this about this portion of the article:

According to NCAA guidelines, which are in effect for violations reported on or after May 2, 2023, Hawkeye players' college eligibility would be in jeopardy if they bet on Iowa games (in any sport). Football players could lose half a season if they bet on any college football contests. For other wagering activity, they would face a loss of 30% of the season if they wagered more than $800, 20% of the season if they wagered between $501 and $800, 10% of the season for $201 to $500, and gambling education (no games missed) for $200 or less.
 
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There have been rumors that student athletes bet on the Iowa women's basketball team as they advanced to the National Championship game.

What do you guys this about this portion of the article:

According to NCAA guidelines, which are in effect for violations reported on or after May 2, 2023, Hawkeye players' college eligibility would be in jeopardy if they bet on Iowa games (in any sport). Football players could lose half a season if they bet on any college football contests. For other wagering activity, they would face a loss of 30% of the season if they wagered more than $800, 20% of the season if they wagered between $501 and $800, 10% of the season for $201 to $500, and gambling education (no games missed) for $200 or less.
That’s the part I’ve been worried about.
 
I am so tired of the rumors and who is involved and what type of punishment they will receive. Football starts in a few weeks and we don’t even know all the football player and any punishment they might receive. Figure it out!!
 
I am so tired of the rumors and who is involved and what type of punishment they will receive. Football starts in a few weeks and we don’t even know all the football player and any punishment they might receive. Figure it out!!
Don’t know of any football players but I know of one wrestler. Damn good source too and I live a short way south of Pittsburgh
 
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I just cant figure out for the life of me how they havent finished this "investigation" yet and come to a conclusion. Is there negotiations or something that goes along with these issues thats extending the time needed to finish this?
I just can’t figure out why people would think this would be moving so quickly. These things always move extremely slowly.

For example the Jim Harbaugh situation. He broke rules in 2021. Michigan received a notice of allegations in January. He still doesn’t know his punishment.

The only time they move at more than a snail’s pace is when the school investigates themselves and they have incentive to move quickly.
 
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I am so tired of the rumors and who is involved and what type of punishment they will receive. Football starts in a few weeks and we don’t even know all the football player and any punishment they might receive. Figure it out!!

Based on allegedly placing 26 different wagers on Iowa State sporting events, Iowa native Hunter Dekkers is looking at a lifetime ban. Last season he passed for 3,044 yards. He would have been a junior this year.
 
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Paniro Johnson, a sophomore wrestler, and Dodge Sauser, a sophomore offensive lineman on the football team, are both accused of wagering on Iowa State sports.

The DraftKings account controlled by Sauser is alleged to have placed 12 wagers on Iowa State football games, including contests last year against Ohio, West Virginia, Oklahoma State and Texas Tech. In total, Sauser wagered $3,075 on DraftKings, according to the complaint.

Sauser is not noted as appearing in any Iowa State game during his career in the school’s official biography of him on its athletic department website.

The DraftKings account controlled by Johnson placed wagers totaling $45,640 on approximately 1,283 bets, according to the complaint. Johnson, a Big 12 Conference champion at 149 pounds last season, placed approximately 25 bets on Iowa State events, authorities allege.
 
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Hopefully the Iowa guys did nothing too egregious or get overly significant penalties. This should be a wake up call for all NCAA athletes and may be a good thing in the end.

Betting on your own team is obviously a massive no no and hopefully any players that have should really get the book thrown at them.
 
Hopefully the Iowa guys did nothing too egregious or get overly significant penalties. This should be a wake up call for all NCAA athletes and may be a good thing in the end.

Betting on your own team is obviously a massive no no and hopefully any players that have should really get the book thrown at them.
The things that came out yesterday were released because they involve criminal charges.

I would guess the NCAA would move even slower. In fact, don’t they often wait for the criminal things to wrap up before they rule? Or am I misremembering that?
 
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Hopefully the Iowa guys did nothing too egregious or get overly significant penalties. This should be a wake up call for all NCAA athletes and may be a good thing in the end.

Betting on your own team is obviously a massive no no and hopefully any players that have should really get the book thrown at them.

What's annoying is we all know very well that this is not just an Iowa and Iowa State problem. This is going on at colleges & universities throughout the country but only Iowa and Iowa State athletes are gonna get hammered.
 
So, are the IA wrestlers off the hook?

So, the charges are just misdemeanors -so with a decent attorney this SHOULD all be a big nothing burger, slap on the wrist by the NCAA.

But the criminal complaint sounds like the DA is coming for blood. which could affect a behind-closed-doors mitigation of punishment.

Obviously Iowa City would fall under a different DA - so time will tell how aggressive he will be.
 
What's annoying is we all know very well that this is not just an Iowa and Iowa State problem. This is going on at colleges & universities throughout the country but only Iowa and Iowa State athletes are gonna get hammered.
They will get hammered because the state of Iowa investigated to see if underage people were using the apps.
 
This happens at every single college.

My son's best friend does his betting under his dad's name.

It's very common.
 
So, are the IA wrestlers off the hook?

I would guess negative. I know these guys are just the guys that broke the law.

so no hawk wrestlers involved... A whole lot about nothing--

Yeah that’s not the takeaway. 26 athletes involved in the investigation. We’ve heard details on 3 so far (. And UI statement mentioned wrestlers, so there’s more to come. Just hopefully less serious.


Of the 26 Iowa student athletes tied to gambling, these 7 have been named publicly so far:

Baseball:
Keaton Anthony
Jacob Henderson
Ben Tallman
Gehrig Christensen

Football:
Noah Shannon
Aaron Blom

Basketball:
Ahron Ulis


There are 19 student athletes and 2 other programs (wrestling & track and field) to come.
 
I saw this posted on BWI:

It seems they can tell the location of the bets so even if you use say your older brothers or dad’s account information they can figure out if you actually placed the bet.
 
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I saw this posted on BWI:

It seems they can tell the location of the bets so even if you use say your older brothers or dad’s account information they can figure out if you actually placed the bet.

Just curious who on here has sports book apps on their phones and if so, does what follows make sense?

Apparently he downloaded an app and used his mother's log in information and placed 170 bets totaling $4,400. He even took the under (and won) on the 2021 Iowa/Iowa State football game. Luckily he didn't kick in that game but in 2022 he missed a game tying field goal vs Iowa State late in the game.

And I guess they tracked the 170 bets to Iowa City, Iowa, and not where his mother lives?
 
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Just curious who on here has sports book apps on their phones and if so, does what follows make sense?

Apparently he downloaded an app and used his mother's log in information and placed 170 bets totaling $4,400. He even took the under (and won) on the 2021 Iowa/Iowa State football game. Luckily he didn't kick in that game but in 2022 he missed a game tying field goal vs Iowa State late in the game.

And I guess they tracked the 170 bets to Iowa City, Iowa, and not where his mother lives?

Since sports gambling is not legal in all locations, they have to be able to track where the bet is placed.
 
So, the charges are just misdemeanors -so with a decent attorney this SHOULD all be a big nothing burger, slap on the wrist by the NCAA.

But the criminal complaint sounds like the DA is coming for blood. which could affect a behind-closed-doors mitigation of punishment.

Obviously Iowa City would fall under a different DA - so time will tell how aggressive he will be.
Criminal charges and NCAA violations are 2 very different things and will be announced separately.

You can lose all NCAA eligibility for doing something perfectly legal. You can also do some thing that’s illegal and have no repercussions from the NCAA.

The biggest thing we can assume from this information coming out is that the wrestlers involved are likely age 21 and older.
 
Criminal charges and NCAA violations are 2 very different things and will be announced separately.

You can lose all NCAA eligibility for doing something perfectly legal. You can also do some thing that’s illegal and have no repercussions from the NCAA.

The biggest thing we can assume from this information coming out is that the wrestlers involved are likely age 21 and older.
True. But with criminal filings and chargings (read: public) - there is no hiding the actual offenses.

Which is kinda the case with Paniro. The DA CHOSE to bring charges that could have just gone straight to the NCAA - who doesn't seem inclined to really hammer guys for gambling.
 
Since sports gambling is not legal in all locations, they have to be able to track where the bet is placed.
It's funny, I do not gamble except for fun $1 bets on the Super Bowl. My wife and I signed up for a teaser bet, $5 at 55 to 1 and we each bet on Tampa Bay and won $275. I forgot about the GPS thing. Every year now I put in 50-100 bucks and bet 1 dollar on a bunch of silly stuff. One year , the year of the big bet, I won like 300+ dollars. The other years I lost 20-30 bucks.
 
True. But with criminal filings and chargings (read: public) - there is no hiding the actual offenses.

Which is kinda the case with Paniro. The DA CHOSE to bring charges that could have just gone straight to the NCAA - who doesn't seem inclined to really hammer guys for gambling.

Before the recent rules changes, if a student athlete bet on ANY NCAA sponsored sport, the penalty was a one year suspension (subject to appeal). That was getting hammered, imo.

And now:

According to NCAA guidelines, which are in effect for violations reported on or after May 2, 2023:

* Hawkeye players' college eligibility would be in jeopardy if they bet on Iowa games (in any sport).

* Football players could lose half a season if they bet on ANY college football contests.

* For other wagering activity, they would face a loss of:

30% of the season if they wagered more than $800,

20% of the season if they wagered between $501 and $800,

10% of the season for $201 to $500,

and gambling education (no games missed) for $200 or less.
 
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True. But with criminal filings and chargings (read: public) - there is no hiding the actual offenses.

Which is kinda the case with Paniro. The DA CHOSE to bring charges that could have just gone straight to the NCAA - who doesn't seem inclined to really hammer guys for gambling.
I’m willing to bet the DA doesn’t give a rip what the NCAA may or may not do and that had no bearing on their charges.
 
i know the rest of you guys are relieved to know that blues man and wife won their bets, sure eases my anxiety about losing some of our wrestlers
 
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