I feel sorry for you man. I will pray that you find peace some day. 😇The goal to beat Spencer on the big stage outweighed representing his nation on the big stage
I feel sorry for you man. I will pray that you find peace some day. 😇The goal to beat Spencer on the big stage outweighed representing his nation on the big stage
Denial response. Im a big spencer snd rby fsn but your rationale on why rby chose mex is laughable. It was a much easier path to olympics is the reason!I feel sorry for you man. I will pray that you find peace some day. 😇
I knew there was a reason I had you on ignore. This is seriously Funny, if you could remotely think this to be true then you my friend have no freaking clue.Well... I laughed at the comment as well.
RBY followed the rules and qualified for Mexico.
The reason he wanted to wrestle for Mexico is that he wants the opportunity to beat Spencer on the biggest Freestyle stage. But he thinks that ultimately Gillman wins the spot for the U.S.
Dual citizenship Olympic qualified wrestlers, not representing the USA and training in the USA.I knew there was a reason I had you on ignore. This is seriously Funny, if you could remotely think this to be true then you my friend have no freaking clue.
At our 57kg trials I would put Rby maybe 4th -5th on the podium at best and thats behind Lee, Vito , Gilman and maybe Suriano. Gave him the edge on Fix. Would not surprise me at all to see him lose to Forrest or LL either. That is the reason he flew to Mexico and he and everyone else knows this. I will add it was a smart idea though for his sake, knowing none of our best guys woulld be at the Pan Am games.
Oh and by the way the kid from Michigan did the same thing for a different country, same premise!
and born in USA, and educated in USA, and reaping the benefits of being in the USA, likely voting in the USA.Dual citizenship Olympic qualified wrestlers, not representing the USA and training in the USA.
1. Steven Micic (SRB) 57 kg.
2. Roman Bravo-Young (MEX) 57 kg.
3. Darian Cruz ((PUR) 57 kg.
4. Sebastian Rivera (PUR) 65 kg.
5. Austin Gomez (MEX) 65 kg.
6. Myles Amine (SMR) 86 kg.
7. Ethan Ramos (PUR) 86 kg.
8. Amar Dhesi CAN) 125 kg.
I actually make it a practice to not “man-up”I noticed @PSUer1989 responded to this with a laughing face thingy. Wonder if this dude would ever man up and actually post as to what he thinks is the reason RBY did the US dirty if he is the best 57kg guy that wrestles on our soil.
NO DOUBT!!! Not sure we will know which weight was actually "the beast" for many years down the line due to how many young kids are in the 57KG.I know 57 is of great interest here, but in the spirit of the OP, 74kg is the real beast. I think there are 16 NCAA championships among that bracket (6 @57).
and they all know they would never smell a US Olympic team, case in point! There is only one on this list where fans have some sort of pipe dream about a plan to knock off one of our top guys on the world stage.Dual citizenship Olympic qualified wrestlers, not representing the USA and training in the USA.
1. Steven Micic (SRB) 57 kg.
2. Roman Bravo-Young (MEX) 57 kg.
3. Darian Cruz ((PUR) 57 kg.
4. Sebastian Rivera (PUR) 65 kg.
5. Austin Gomez (MEX) 65 kg.
6. Myles Amine (SMR) 86 kg.
7. Ethan Ramos (PUR) 86 kg.
8. Amar Dhesi CAN) 125 kg.
Whats the consensus on who we want? Assuming we all want Gilman/Lee? Poetic justice??Bottom side of the bracket just got much easier for Gilman/Fix
Let’s not count the chickens before they hatch. Spencer needs to get to the finals first.Whats the consensus on who we want? Assuming we all want Gilman/Lee? Poetic justice??
Personally, I don't mind rooting for Gilman still, and I just don't like the idea of rooting for Fix. So Gilman gets my vote, especially for the possible storylines and drama of a Lee/Gilman final. That said, I feel like Fix will be the one who comes through the bottom half (assuming of course that the seeds work out as predicted)Whats the consensus on who we want? Assuming we all want Gilman/Lee? Poetic justice?
Same with GilmanLet’s not count the chickens before they hatch. Spencer needs to get to the finals first.
I wonder how Fix will handle the cut too 125.5? When is the last time he wrestled down that low? He looks bigger than Vito and won't have his "dad's" shakes to get down like before.Personally, I don't mind rooting for Gilman still, and I just don't like the idea of rooting for Fix. So Gilman gets my vote, especially for the possible storylines and drama of a Lee/Gilman final. That said, I feel like Fix will be the one who comes through the bottom half (assuming of course that the seeds work out as predicted)
Trust me, I'm not. Suriano will be game and he is a concern of mine.Let’s not count the chickens before they hatch. Spencer needs to get to the finals first.
Oh you are one of those, makes sense.I actually make it a practice to not “man-up”
The cut was brutal for Vito and it showed. Fix is going to be so sucked out also, Suriano has been on a maintain program for a while, body fat has got to be extremely low.This sucks as I love watching Vito wrestle! I was thinking Spencer vs Vito best of three before now Gilman vs Lee is my prediction if they are on opposite sides.
Gilman is the only concern for me because his strengths (pace/wearing guys down) lines up with Spencers only real weakness (conditioning).Whats the consensus on who we want? Assuming we all want Gilman/Lee? Poetic justice??
nothing has changed in terms of expected seeds, the only difference is the winner of 2(7) vs 3(6) goes to the best of 3 the following day instead of facing off against Vito for that spot.Doesn’t this help Lee. Won’t Suriano go to bottom half now?
Oh you are one of those, makes sense.
and they all know they would never smell a US Olympic team, case in point! There is only one on this list where fans have some sort of pipe dream about a plan to knock off one of our top guys on the world stage.
Then go train and live in the country you compete for, use their facilities and coaches.I don't understand the animosity about American wrestlers going to other countries for the Olympics. It creates better competition and hopefully will help grow the sport. If Micic, RBY, etc can do well and inspire kids watching the Olympics in those countries to get into wrestling, that would be awesome. (And every once in while, pipe dreams come true.)
Using US facilities and coaches keeps money in the US economy. How is that not a good thing?Then go train and live in the country you compete for, use their facilities and coaches.
If you live in the USA, you should represent the USA.Using US facilities and coaches keeps money in the US economy. How is that not a good thing?
Because some of those kids make it harder for team USA to qualify the weights for the Olympics for one.I don't understand the animosity about American wrestlers going to other countries for the Olympics. It creates better competition and hopefully will help grow the sport. If Micic, RBY, etc can do well and inspire kids watching the Olympics in those countries to get into wrestling, that would be awesome. (And every once in while, pipe dreams come true.)
Then go train and live in the country you compete for, use their facilities and coaches.
Then get betterBecause some of those kids make it harder for team USA to qualify the weights for the Olympics for one.
Micic’s world title was not watered down at all. You may be thinking of Gilmans, but Micic’s was far from it - his was as stacked as it getsI could give two shits if they want to go represent a foreign country, but as @T8KUDWN stated at the time they commit to wrestle for the other country then they should train there under their coaching staff. Wrestlers do this all over the world, the wrestlers from our country should be no different.
The point of growing the sport, yeah sure why not. Micic won a world title, fantastic for that country even though it was completly watered down.
I was pointing out a specific thing that someone posted, that was that RBY went to Mexico so he could beat our best on a bigger stage and that is laughable.
RBY, Micic and all the others competing for other countries are doing it because they have the chance of making it to the olympics which is great for them ( I could care less if they lost or won), but they also know they have little to no chance of making the US team. Facts!
I would add, if this is not true and they truly believe they would win the US trials but would rather wrestle for those other countries then they can all eat Shit.
Oh and the economy comment I got a good laugh from.