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Did he start with "Can you do me a favor?"
I thought you didn't want any troops there. Why are you upset by this? Oh yeah, Biden is a Democrat.Our president, the defender of the free world, told Ukraine's president to prepare for Kyiv to be sacked, and oh by the way, we're not sending any troops to help.
How is that not a big deal?
They, just like McConnell tells them, will be opposite of whatever Biden does. Biden could give them all of their taxes back and they'd find a way to be pissed about it.I've said it before and will say again, fascinating to watch the far right/MAGA lovers put forth two completely opposite poutrages on on Biden and Russia /Ukraine. One hour it's "why would we have a war with Russia" and supporting Putin (ala people like Tucker Carlson) and the next hour it is "Biden is a pussy and is going to totally let Russia have Ukraine"
So we should beat them to the punch?Russia is trying to make Ukraine a "puppet" country.
Hence Nuland saying, “**** the EU” when talking with our ambassador in Ukraine back in 2014 while going over who would be installed as leader after the coup (which came about three weeks later).None of the EU nations are trying to "force" Ukraine into being a NATO ally.
Yeah, there are at least four sides.The situation is not a "both sides" thing here.
So we should beat them to the punch?
By fomenting a coup and backing a leader who will align with us instead of the one elected by the Ukrainian people.We should prevent Russian oligarchs from taking over their democracy. Absolutely.
No, instead of the one controlled by Putin and his oligarchs.By fomenting a coup and backing a leader who will align with us instead of the one elected by the Ukrainian people.
We'd have to ask the Republicans the best way to attempt a coup.By fomenting a coup and backing a leader who will align with us instead of the one elected by the Ukrainian people.
Brilliant!
Seems to me like what happened in 2014 was a "success" and what happened in 2020 wasn't.We'd have to ask the Republicans the best way to attempt a coup.
GOP admin successfully managed the coup in Iran, that puppet government lasted a few decades.We'd have to ask the Republicans the best way to attempt a coup.
Yeah he did, admitted on video when he was VP.This. Did Biden try to threaten an illegal withholding of aid to coax a sham investigation out of foreign country to harm a domestic political opponent? Wake me then.
No they shouldn’t. A POTUS should be able to conduct confidential discussions with other leaders.They should.
You have GOT to get rid of your conspiracy theory subscriptions. JFCBy fomenting a coup and backing a leader who will align with us instead of the one elected by the Ukrainian people.
Brilliant!
I see what you did there. That's one of your best posts ever.We'd have to ask the Republicans the best way to attempt a coup.
Have you ever read the transcript, or listened to the call between Nuland and Pyatt?You have GOT to get rid of your conspiracy theory subscriptions. JFC
You're clearly a very confused individual.Yeah he did, admitted on video when he was VP.
No but he threatened to withhold a billions dollars if they didn't fire a judge who was investigating his son..........This. Did Biden try to threaten an illegal withholding of aid to coax a sham investigation out of foreign country to harm a domestic political opponent? Wake me then.
You do realize that's been debunked, right? So did you knowingly lie, or were you just misinformed?...No but he threatened to withhold a billions dollars if they didn't fire a judge who was investigating his son..........
It’s both.You do realize that's been debunked, right? So did you knowingly lie, or were you just misinformed?...
When Biden had his now-famous showdown with Ukraine President Petro Poroshenko in 2015, he was delivering a message not only from the United States, but from the International Monetary Fund and the European Union. All three entities were focused on curtailing corruption in Ukraine, and all three were deeply suspicious that Poroshenko’s prosecutor was playing a familiar game of tamping down investigations as a form of political favoritism.
By all credible accounts, the prosecutor had slow-walked the investigation of the energy company that hired Biden’s son; so, if anything, the prosecutor was doing the Bidens a favor. Getting rid of him would do the opposite.
PolitiFact - Ask PolitiFact: Does a video show Joe Biden confessing to bribery? No
A reader asked, "How come Joe Biden is on film bragging about getting the Prosecutor investigating Burisma fired anwww.politifact.com
This shit never dies.You do realize that's been debunked, right? So did you knowingly lie, or were you just misinformed?...
When Biden had his now-famous showdown with Ukraine President Petro Poroshenko in 2015, he was delivering a message not only from the United States, but from the International Monetary Fund and the European Union. All three entities were focused on curtailing corruption in Ukraine, and all three were deeply suspicious that Poroshenko’s prosecutor was playing a familiar game of tamping down investigations as a form of political favoritism.
By all credible accounts, the prosecutor had slow-walked the investigation of the energy company that hired Biden’s son; so, if anything, the prosecutor was doing the Bidens a favor. Getting rid of him would do the opposite.
PolitiFact - Ask PolitiFact: Does a video show Joe Biden confessing to bribery? No
A reader asked, "How come Joe Biden is on film bragging about getting the Prosecutor investigating Burisma fired anwww.politifact.com
Why go all the way back to Vietnam? How about the current coup that is happening within our own country?GOP admin successfully managed the coup in Iran, that puppet government lasted a few decades.
Democrats got behind the coup government in South Vietnam, but I’m not sure how much U.S. fingerprints were on that coup. Probably more winking and nodding to the generals than sitting in the driver’s seat.
So far the coup in Ukraine hasn’t had great results, unless war in Europe is a feature, not a bug.
Iran is a "success" in your mind?GOP admin successfully managed the coup in Iran
It's not Trump and they work night and day to make Joe look functional. No way those get released.They should.
Our intervention in Iran was and is a disastrous failure.Iran is a "success" in your mind?
Our intervention in Iran was and is a disastrous failure.
The coup the overthrow their elected government and replace it with a puppet began in the Eisenhower administration and lasted through Kennedy, LBJ, Nixon, Ford, and then Carter until he decided America shouldn’t try to support the Shah.
I didn’t say it was.So, how is letting Ukraine elect their own people "bad" then?
He was elected in 2010.When Putin had put his oligarchs in charge, and we helped toss them out...
You mean the guy who wanted to get closer to Russia and was ultimately removed from office? And later sentenced to 13 years for treason? LOLI didn’t say it was.
The president overthrown in the coup was elected.
He was elected in 2010.
International observers and the Organization for Security and Cooperation in Europe have called the election transparent and honest.
You mean the guy who wanted to get closer to Russia and was ultimately removed from office? And later sentenced to 13 years for treason? LOL
I wish I could find a link to the Pat Oliphant political cartoon of a very small Jimmy Carter and very large Leonid Brezhnev sitting at a table with Brezhnev yelling “You’ll whip my WHAT?” to Carter. Fits this situation perfectly. (for you children on this board, this was a poke at Carter for his comment back in the late ‘70s that he would whip Ted Kennedy’s a*s)
None of them ever do.OP’s attempt at a thread…didn’t go well.
CNN tweets out that the call didn’t go well. CNN deletes the tweet. Ukraine PM holds a press conference…which he absolutely throws barbs and shade at Biden. The White House of course won’t release the transcript of the call. Ukraine says everything is fine yet Biden approved troops to go over there.None of them ever do.
Sure. Sure.......You do realize that's been debunked, right? So did you knowingly lie, or were you just misinformed?...
When Biden had his now-famous showdown with Ukraine President Petro Poroshenko in 2015, he was delivering a message not only from the United States, but from the International Monetary Fund and the European Union. All three entities were focused on curtailing corruption in Ukraine, and all three were deeply suspicious that Poroshenko’s prosecutor was playing a familiar game of tamping down investigations as a form of political favoritism.
By all credible accounts, the prosecutor had slow-walked the investigation of the energy company that hired Biden’s son; so, if anything, the prosecutor was doing the Bidens a favor. Getting rid of him would do the opposite.
PolitiFact - Ask PolitiFact: Does a video show Joe Biden confessing to bribery? No
A reader asked, "How come Joe Biden is on film bragging about getting the Prosecutor investigating Burisma fired anwww.politifact.com