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Still would get to play an easier schedule

So you are saying you would still lose at the same rate but the games would be closer. I guess it's good to have goals. Keep striving to climb to below average. Baby steps indeed.
 
I think you are wrong and it has been reported that Texas along with strong-arming TTech & TCU have been on the no-expand side. There are very few programs across the country that could be brought in that would diminish the number 1 revenue maker in the country in Texas. Adding CSU, Cincinnati, UConn, BYU, etc is not going to make Texas a little dog. If the LHN was ever put in jeopardy by the decisions of other league members then they simply leave to join another league or go independent so I do not buy that argument either. There is no league without Texas.

The rub is likely not wanting to travel for all sports to more remote out posts like UConn, Cincy, BYU, etc. and diluting the Texas voting block for decisions when weighing the true value of what any of those schools really add to the overall conference value and merit.

Nothing will happen without Texas's approval in the end and they will only sign-off on something that benefits their program.
That's basically what I said. Texas isn't against expansion....if expansion doesn't hurt Texas. In that respect, Texas is like all the other members of the conference (or any conference). I think the only member of the conference that has expressed a strong pro-expansion position is Oklahoma, and since that comes solely from the president and he's been slapped down for his remarks by his bosses, even OU's position isn't all that clear. ISU has said it's open to discussion, which I think is where most of the members stand.

I have not heard Pollard or anybody else express a desire to expand the conference. Personally, I would be against it unless I could be convinced it was in ISU's best interests, and that basically means money and exposure. I like the idea of playing a round-robin schedule in football and a double round-robin in basketball while still being able to schedule good non-conference games.

Some people think expansion would help ISU be more competitive because there would be years when ISU didn't have to play the best teams in the league. There's some validity to this. It happened for Iowa last year and for ISU in '04 and '05. But I don't know if that would outweigh the negatives.

Finally, the departure of Texas -- to where, I have to keep asking? -- would definitely be a blow to the conference but not necessarily a fatal one. The loss of both Texas and Oklahoma could be crippling.
 
So you are saying you would still lose at the same rate but the games would be closer. I guess it's good to have goals. Keep striving to climb to below average. Baby steps indeed.

Well we already determined by the Massey Ratings on here Iowa State would have one more games last season with Iowa's schedule and that's not even including any potential upsets
 
Well we already determined by the Massey Ratings on here Iowa State would have one more games last season with Iowa's schedule and that's not even including any potential upsets

Any program that could lose like ISU did at KSU does not need a different schedule to find more wins.
 
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Are you agreeing or disagreeing with me?

Are you trying to say UNMC is part of UNL? By that logic, UNO and UNK are also part of UNL.

I guess UNL already has a hockey team!!! Why aren't they part of the B1G hockey conference?

As I said, learning is fun. Please do so before posting incorrect information on this topic again. Thank you.
 
Well we already determined by the Massey Ratings on here Iowa State would have one more games last season with Iowa's schedule and that's not even including any potential upsets

'One more games'? Nice job out of you. Good thing ISU didn't schedule NWMSU because according to Massey it would have been a beat down for the D2 school.
 
Unfortunately that isn't going to happen. Maybe beating all the FCS schools you play would help you look better to the Big Ten.

Does beating the current Big Ten coach of the year half the time you face him make us look better to the Big Ten?
 
Does beating the current Big Ten coach of the year half the time you face him make us look better to the Big Ten?

No it shows it is your Super Bowl. When will isu have a coach of the year for football? Have they ever?
 
Does beating the current Big Ten coach of the year half the time you face him make us look better to the Big Ten?

Your easier schedule will come soon enough playing in the Mac in about 10 years or less. I can't wait for ISU to finally have a good season in the Mac and hawk fans can say but your schedule was so easy and your success doesn't mean anything. It will be good times and I couldn't see a better way to spend the rest of my life.
 
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Your easier schedule will come soon enough playing in the Mac in about 10 years or less. I can't wait for you to finally have a good season in the Mac and hawk fans can say but your schedule was so easy and your success doesn't mean anything. It will be good times and I couldn't see a better way to spend the rest of my life.

Iowa State will always be in a power conference but you can keep dreaming that they won't be
 
Yes. Iowa will always be in a power conference as well

Very naïve way of thinking. I wonder if UCONN and the rest of big east fans thought big east football would collapse. There is a ton more money to be made by the biggest football powers. Think how much money the top 32 football programs in America could make if they cut everyone else out. I think the total power 5 teams will keep slowly dropping so they don't have to split the money with the schools that don't help the greater good. Keep thinking that change can't happen when money is involved.

Now I'm going to go enjoy a Holliday weekend hopefully you find more things to do with your weekend besides waiting for random people you don't know to reply to your posts on the this IOWA message board.
 
Very naïve way of thinking. I wonder if UCONN and the rest of big east fans thought big east football would collapse. There is a ton more money to be made by the biggest football powers. Think how much money the top 32 football programs in America could make if they cut everyone else out. I think the total power 5 teams will keep slowly dropping so they don't have to split the money with the schools that don't help the greater good. Keep thinking that change can't happen when money is involved.

Now I'm going to go enjoy a Holliday weekend hopefully you find more things to do with your weekend besides waiting for random people you don't know to reply to your posts on the this IOWA message board.

Little bro syndrome that afflicts isu grads must be fed daily. What else are they going to do with their time, watch their Baseball team?

Too funny. isu is too poor to afford Baseball but they will remain a Power 5 because they say so.
 
Like I said, I wish Iowa State got to play a Big Ten schedule

ISU record against the BIG, congrats you've won 18% of the time against the BIG in football. Great news for you, take out Nebraska and that win % explodes to 20%. You have never played OSU, MI or PSU. lucky for ISU.

W L T
IL 1 3 2
IA 19 41
IN 0 0
NE 15 84 2
MSU 0 2
MN 1 21 1
NW 1 7
Purdue 0 1
WI 0 7
MI
OSU
PSU
MD
Rutgers 0 1
Total 37 167 5 209 18%

W/Out NE 22 83 3 108 20%
 
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ISU record against the BIG, congrats you've won 18% of the time against the BIG in football. Great news for you, take out Nebraska and that win % explodes to 20%. You have never played OSU, MI or PSU. lucky for ISU.

W L T
IL 1 3 2
IA 19 41
IN 0 0
NE 15 84 2
MSU 0 2
MN 1 21 1
NW 1 7
Purdue 0 1
WI 0 7
MI
OSU
PSU
MD
Rutgers 0 1
Total 37 167 5 209 18%

W/Out NE 22 83 3 108 20%

Nope isu grads will ignore that. Leave it to clown fans to want to be in the Big Ten with a 20% winning %.

More please.
 
Does beating the current Big Ten coach of the year half the time you face him make us look better to the Big Ten?
tick tock tick tock...hear that? Thats the timer running out on your affiliation with a P5 conference. Tick tock tick tock...... goodbye Big 12...Goodbye ISU. 30 million dollars on an endzone project only to become a mid major...I'm telling ya I get all tingly just thinking about this impending Big 12 demise...oh its going to be delicious to watch cyclown fanatic melt down.
 
tick tock tick tock...hear that? Thats the timer running out on your affiliation with a P5 conference. Tick tock tick tock...... goodbye Big 12...Goodbye ISU. 30 million dollars on an endzone project only to become a mid major...I'm telling ya I get all tingly just thinking about this impending Big 12 demise...oh its going to be delicious to watch cyclown fanatic melt down.

I don't think either Iowa or Iowa State will ever go to a mid major conference
 
I don't think either Iowa or Iowa State will ever go to a mid major conference
1) Your thinking is correct regarding Iowa.
2) ISU would (will?) be in dire straights if (When?) the Big 12 dissolves. Nobody cares about them..nobody wants them. Where would they GO? Seriously who would want you...football drives the show and ISU is NOBODY in football.
 
1) Your thinking is correct regarding Iowa.
2) ISU would (will?) be in dire straights if (When?) the Big 12 dissolves. Nobody cares about them..nobody wants them. Where would they GO? Seriously who would want you...football drives the show and ISU is NOBODY in football.

I will stand by my statement that Iowa and Iowa State are both in fine shape moving forward
 
I will stand by my statement that Iowa and Iowa State are both in fine shape moving forward

Lol.. Okay.... If you had to pick, which school has a higher probability of going mid major? Or do you think it's equal?
 
Lol. Nice dodge. I have yet to see an actual article speculating on Iowa being left out. I have seen that about ISU. Your choice to ignore that is interesting.

Links to these articles about Iowa State going to a mid major?
 
Links to these articles about Iowa State going to a mid major?

Simple, if the current P5 go to a 64 school format, more than current P5 won't make the cut.

What does isu have that will keep them from being on the outside looking in? Their 50k stadium? All of their football conference championships since 1912?

We eagerly await a well thought out and highly intelligent response from isu grad.

Who wants to bet we get crickets from isu grad?
 
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