If you're a big fan how could you not know the teams in your own conference regardless of relevance? That makes no sense
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If you're a big fan how could you not know the teams in your own conference regardless of relevance? That makes no sense
If it was an off the top of the head comment it makes sense. And are you the arbitrar of what makes sense? Perhaps re reading some of your posts with the same scrutiny would help you out some.
I honestly don't see any way it makes sense to not know every team in your conference when you play them every year even if you're just the average fan
That's because you know Iowa State, the rest of the conference finds them irrelevant the majority of the time.
Relevancy shouldn't matter at all in knowing who's in your own conference. That makes no sense, could you imagine a huge Big Ten fan not knowing Rutgers was in their own conference? Either he's not a football fan or you made that up
They would probably be the one where I sit there and go 'who am I missing, oh yeah, Rutgers' so I can see it going that way.... Could happen with ISU or Kansas if it is football season, but Kansas had the Mangino year and hired Weiss, ISU doesn't really have that. just because it doesn't make sense to you doesn't mean it isn't so.
Lol.... Pretty good indicator of what you have left in this discussion. Your participation ribbon should be ready soon.
Pretty sad to be so irrelevant that even conference foes forget you exist. He knew ISU was in the conference he forgot you were in the conference...
I live up in the Sioux City area. I remember when the BTN was launched and, initially, the cable companies wouldn't carry it. Iowa fans went ballistic and started switching to satellite TV in droves and campaigning heavily for the cable companies to carry the BTN. The cable companies had no choice but to carry the BTN because of the groundswell of Hawkeye fans. That will not happen for Cyclone fans as there are too few of them and people just don't care about Cyclone football as much as they do Iowa. The cable companies around Ames, sure, they'll sign on to a Big 12 Network, and probably the satellite providers will add it, but it will not get the statewide carriage that the BTN gets.
An OU fan, buddy of mine, we're having the same conversation this weekend. He tried to use the same argument about the B12Network. I pointed out that the issue was going to be getting the Network carried and that there wasn't enough TV sets in B12 territory to get revenue like the Big 10 and SEC are getting. Then I asked him if he actually though that ISU would be able to deliver all the TV sets in the State of Iowa and get all the cable companies on board to carry the network. The answer was "no, you have a very good point." The Big 12 Network sounds like a great idea and is being touted as the cure all pill, problem is in the logistics. If starting a conference network is the panacea then why hasn't the ACC got their network off the ground? Why is ESPN stalling? The ACC is a much more stable conference in much higher populated areas than the Big 12 yet they can't get one done. Why? It's because the market for sports channels is saturated and cable companies are facing pressure from cord cutters and people wanting ala carte programming. They are not going to be willing to pay for a Big 12 Network being hoisted on them. Simply put, ESPN/FOX/Whoever is going to lose money on a Big12 Network, they know it, it's a business decision and not a charity just so ISU can stay in the P5 club.
Yes, I think there are enough ISU fans in the state not just Ames to make it happen. There are a lot of alums through out state of Iowa, not just around Story Co. I saw where the Big 12 was thinking about a deal with Netflix's, so that might be one way to form a loose network. ISU could also hold the Iowa game as a reason to call your cable company if you want to watch it. There is this belief by some that the state is 90% Iowa fans and the rest of the state is made up of ISU, UNI, and people that do not care, when it's really Iowa with about 45 to 50 percent, ISU with 35 to 40 percent and the rest root for UNI or Drake. Have you been to Des Moines and walked around, go to the state fair or one of the malls? 10 years ago all you saw was Hawk fans, now its 50/50 at best if not more ISU fans walking around. The times are a changing in and around Central Iowa and down here in Southern Iowa. Before, while driving it was rare to see an ISU plate, now, I see as many as Iowa plates on the road. The fans are there, they are loyal, and they will make sure a big 12 network would be on basic cable. And if you think the U of I has not noticed, ask yourself this, " why did Iowa start scheduling a scrimmage in W. Des Moines three years ago?" They see the same thing that many others have seen and commented about on this very board.
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Dick is delusional if he truly believes there is only a 5 point difference between Iowa and little bro.
Then again delusional and isu grad go together like peas and carrots.
You should be embarrassed of yourself.
http://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2014/10/03/upshot/ncaa-football-fan-map.html?_r=0&abt=0002&abg=0
"The cyclone handful."
http://www.desmoinesregister.com/st...14/10/05/cy-hawk-map-new-york-times/16784375/
Here's another one for ya pal.
http://i.imgur.com/1qeHkZl.png
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Must ignore. If Pollard doesn't tweet it isu grads won't believe it.
I will get you another copy of the meno.
if the Pac 12 cannot get a TV deal going why would the big 12? There are a lot more TV on the west coast plus the tx network is already a failure.....
Look at some of the ncaa b-ball ratings sometimes where the worst rated games were the ISU games,
Only card you boys have is the expansion(dilution) card and the $$ and even that will not help when these next rounds of TV talks come up.
By the way, the pres. will not drive expansion, TV's will, the pres will rubber stamp this you know why? It is because the general funds of the schools will begin to syphon some of these monies......
Keep thinking you have a hammer when you really don't....funny thing about all this is you all helped create this monster that is TX and expansion when you formed this big 12....now you could very well be a big loser when all things shake out......
Iowa State basketball has some of the worst TV ratings? Do you have a link to that because I thought they always did pretty well on Big Monday
If you believe in links that point to facts then I suggest you check out the links refuting your 40/45% Iowa Fans vs. ISU fans in the state. You ask for facts from others but then you make up outrageously stupid claims on your own.
Here I'll give you the link. https://iowa.forums.rivals.com/threads/nebraska-wants-wisconsin-on-black-friday.130800/page-3
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I have no idea what you're talking about so I think you are mistaking me for someone else
I don't know the stats, so don't take this as fact but I would guess the state is:
6% UNI
30% ISU
44% U of I
20% Don't care
So yep we must ignore the Register article. Along with the others that have the stats. Just another of the traits that are so entertaining about isu grads. The admit they don't know the answer but they are sure Iowa fan is wrong when showing how dominant Iowa is over little bro.
Glad we cleared that up.
Crazy just Crazy to think that 80% of our state has some sort of allegience to football. you should move your "don't care category to 60% cause far less than half of the people in this state care about college sports.
You could be right, I still think 7 out of 10 follow a school. I could be wrong.
Did you forget the link showing Iowa with the 15th most fans in college football, almost 3 times as many as ISU? Don't trust that one either it was only in the New York Times. Way less reliable than a license plate survey at the state fair or Jordan Creek mall. What? You say the Iowa state fair leans towards an Ag focus and ISU represents well there? Go figure. Nice work on that one.
The New York times map is based upon facebook likes, real scientific poll there, the last one was based on 4740 people surveyed across the nation and 78 different countries. Look Iowa has more fans, but they are no where near the 15th most popular team in the US. Hell in the Big 10 alone they are behind, OSU, Mich, Penn St., and Nebraska. I get it, try and discredit the movement ISU has made in gathering new fans, discredit what people on this board and others say. So only farmers go to the state fair, or the mall, got it. ISU had more graduates per county then Iowa the past five years, but they went to ISU but root for Iowa.
If I asked if he forgot the link it means he probably did. It's a little more scientific than FB likes.
There it is again. isu grad demands that we ignore what shows how little bro they really are. Do they have a "scientific" alternative that shows different data?
Nope and that's nohing new.
The information I stated came from the links that were provided proving how popular Iowa is. Did you read the articles, or just look at the map? Now go back and look at the articles again, and you will see where they got the data. You are welcome.
Again if the articles are bunk then give us a "scientific" alternative that shows different data.
Naw isu grads simply refuse to do that. Maybe just maybe it is because they know deep down the articles are spot on but their little bro syndrome will NEVER allow them to admit it.
Again you should be embarrassed. 19 is nowhere near 15th? Oh I suppose USA today isn't as accurate as your opinion either.
Here is another link to make you look stupid-er
http://ftw.usatoday.com/2015/10/fan-index-week-1-the-top-10-fan-bases-in-college-football
Here is another CLOWN! #12 in this one
http://fanindex.usatoday.com/
So you think Iowa has more fans nation wide then Texas and Texas AM, and you are calling me stupid. A little early to be drinking this morning, is it not? Iowa has a fine fan base, but the state itself only has less than 3 million people, when you take out the other schools in the state, fans that do not care, iowa is right around 25 to 35 at best. Any poll taken where people of a fan base vote is going to be inaccurate, first people have to find the site and go to it, that also leads to fans of one school repeatedly voting for same school over and over. But keep trying, one day you just might luck onto something. Again, did you read how the information was collected, fans tweets, facebook, myspace, and fans can vote as many times as they want. Iowa has a rapid fan base, not doubt, I hear "go hawks" all over the place, but they are not anywhere near the 19th most popular team in the nation.
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There it is again. isu grad can't bring any different "scientific" data to refute the numerous articles their only response is that it is wrong.
Quit laughing they are serious.
You toss out stupid statistics made up in your own mind and then have the gall to ask others to provide links for information that threaten your little team's image. But then when confronted with links to sites that at least try to gather data (instead of make crap up like you) you cry foul. The USA today is NOT an Iowa Newspaper. It is a national newspaper. But then again you create stupid fantasy facts that Iowa is 25-35 at best based on absolutely zero information. I didn't call you stupid. The USA today information called you stupid. I know the size of the Chicago I club. Can you give me the size of the entire cyclone club (or whatever it is called)?
Its not in my mind, many others on this site have noticed the same thing and said so. Your USA Today information comes from facebook, myspace and tweets. God, read the articles and how they got their information before you bash anyone. Yes, I suspect that Chicago would have a large I Club, they have been sucking kids out of the western burbs for the last twenty years, kids come here, because they could not get into Illinois, and then move back to Chicago. What does that prove? Hell Dallas has a large group of ISU alums, again proves nothing. Just look at how the poll was conducted before you go off and bash someone for doubting it. Any poll that says Iowa has more fans than UT or Texas AM says it all. But believe what you want to believe. Look its not my point to call anyone names and argue, debate the facts yes. If I have offended you, I am sorry that was not my intention.
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here is another piece done by nate silver from 2011. It has iowa 15th. Methodology is explained. BTW its not MY USA article its an article. For the sake of going back and forth could you just please provide me with a link that demonstrates the fantastic statistics you are coming up with?
http://thequad.blogs.nytimes.com/20...-college-football-fans-and-realignment-chaos/
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