It works so well that isu welcomes d-bags tossed off the team at other schools. isu grads stand and cheer on the d-bag culture of isu.
Kendrick Nunn is your next isu d-bag.
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It works so well that isu welcomes d-bags tossed off the team at other schools. isu grads stand and cheer on the d-bag culture of isu.
Kendrick Nunn is your next isu d-bag.
That just sounds slimy. Nice motto 'we have higher standards than the worst teams' to each their own. Just an FYI that mentality usually blows up in the long run.
The Licklighter era basketball is basically how ISU football as been for most clowns fans entire lives. That would really suck. Iowa was able to rebound from one bad hire. The clowns entire existence consists of bad hires.
I think it's more slimy to not suspend a kid for any games who got arrested twice in one off season with one of them being an OWI but to each their own.
Moving violations are now considered arrests? What is next parking ticket smack?
But convicted felons find a way to serve a zero game suspension at isu. Can you say Jason Berryman? Sure ya can.
Yes Peter didn't want to end up like clown greats Curtis Stinson and Will Blaylock.
Or if the police just call the coach none of it 'officially' occurs. Way back in the day and at programs with low standards on winning the right way it happens like that.
Iowa State had two players get OWI's recently and both sat out three games so I'm not sure what you're implying.
Nope isu grads simply ignore them. Same with their felons. For isu grads the only thing that matters is what Iowa does. isu behavior is to be ignored.
KSU has won a big 8 championship and big xii championships; isu has not.
KSU has four North Divisional Titles; isu has zero.
KSU has played in and won more bowl games.
KSU has finished the season ranked thirteen times overall; isu has three such years of distinction.
KSU has been a top ten ranked program on at least five occasions following a season; isu has never attained a top ten final ranking.
KSU has won 11 games in a single season seven times; isu has never won eleven games.
KSU has won 10 games a year three times; isu has never won ten games.
KSU has won 9 games per season four times: isu has twice won 9 games.
KSU has won the last eight games played in the series and 9 or the previous 10.
Shouldn't a 'rivalry' indicate more than this?
Not meaning to imply anything at all. The record/facts clearly show isu (under very recent coaching staff and athletic administration) have had athletes incur little if any real consequence for issues involving more than petty criminal activities. To say that is not so is to be in total denial.
You had a player get arrested twice in one off season and never had to miss a game. Glass houses.
Regardless, the point still stands, ISU is having success in basketball while not breaking rules. To say that is not so is to be in total denial
The glass house is all yours. How many games total did Jake Lattimer (recruited by isu following a guilty verdict for an assault charge) and/or Matt Tau'fo'ou miss while playing for Paul Rhoads at isu?
It sure is. Why is nebby so low on this list?
http://grad-schools.usnews.rankings.../top-medical-schools/research-rankings/page+3
Paul Rhoads got fired and made very poor disciplinary decisions while he was at ISU. I honestly don't even remember Lattimer or Matt's situation but Albert Gary comes to mind. I know a lot of ISU fans had an issue with that like I'm sure many Hawkeye fans had an issue with how Fran handled the Jok situation. Of course there are many from both sides that probably didn't care at all but to say ISU is bending the rules because of BDJ's situation is pretty hypocritical considering what Fran has done.
Again isu had felons play without missing any games. Tell us again about glass houses.
When isu grads can't defeat my arguments they run away and hide like little girls.
More please.
Are you agreeing or disagreeing with me?
Are you trying to say UNMC is part of UNL? By that logic, UNO and UNK are also part of UNL.
I guess UNL already has a hockey team!!! Why aren't they part of the B1G hockey conference?
I'm just curious CyCity with the success isu has had where do u see ISU as a program? Top 20?
Historically nowhere near top 20, if we're living in the now I would say ISU is a top 25 basketball program. They'll make their 6th straight NCAA tournament appearance and have the third longest top 25 streak in the country.
Both agricultural land-grant universities, most of those games determined by 7 points or less, close regionally, many people travel for the games. True KSU had won most of them but when you look at the disparity in coaching it makes sense. Bill Snyder is an elite coach.
You disappoint, agr....
IF all that it took were a few similarities that have zero to do with athletic competition, then you might be onto something. The conversation was never about those obscure items.
There will be more people travel to see Iowa play ND State this September than have attended most of the isu versus KSU match ups. Not sure that will qualify Iowa and ND State as any sort of rivals. You weaken your argument whenever you stretch this far.
Coaching disparity? Now you actually may be onto something. Why is there a coaching disparity? Is there something preventing isu from hiring a 'good' or at least 'better' coach? If there is so much similarity in the two institutions that everyone should readily see them as 'rivals', then does it not stand to reason that isu has done a very poor job of hiring coaches?
Bill Snyder is a very good coach that learned a lot of the trade next to Hayden Fry. KSU is lucky to have him. Not sure the 'elite' tag is appropriate, but that is a matter of opinion.
(Oh, btw, KSU is one of the ever so few schools that isu holds the win-loss edge on overall. You need to brush up on your history.)
Not that much of a fan if you can not (or claim to not) be able to remember players for isu under Paul Rhoads. After all, he was only in Ames as the head man for a period of seven years. Unless you are only in your teens, you should be able to easily recall those players.
(And even if that were not so, there is always your most relied upon source of information... the interwebz. You would be absolutely lost otherwise.)
It is not hypocritical at all. I do not recall Iowa fans on here or elsewhere saying that Iowa was above reproach on such things. That is you trying way too hard to justify your weak stance. What was heard/read was that Hoiberg ran a squeaky clean operation because it was never reported of any wrongdoing by his players. That one was exposed as a lie starting with Jordan Railey (?) and blew up when BDJ was discovered to be a multiple offender that was being provided special treatment by his coach and AD while in Ames. You do not want to acknowledge that because it does not fit your latest rant.
Now this sounds familiar.... what screen id did you post under here before (pretend that LC wants to know!)
I remember both players, I said I don't remember their situation meaning how many games they missed, their exact charges, etc.
Jordan Railey was suspended three games for getting in trouble, BDJ had his charges dropped and still missed one game. Peter Jok got arrested twice in one summer and never missed a game. Like I said I'm sure there were many Hawkeye fans out there not happy with Fran because Jok didn't miss a game for getting arrested twice.
I've never posted on here with another user name. I'm guessing I'm not the only person to put Herky on ignore
"Getting into trouble" would qualify as one of the biggest understatements regarding this debate. Refresh my memory, but did not Railey overturn a two (or more) ton motor vehicle on Highway 30 between Ames and Boone while severely under the influence of alcohol and/or other illegal substances. Are you sure it was three games? Tell us exactly which three 'very important' games those were so others can decide if the punishment fit the offense. When Railey became expendable in a subsequent season he was dismissed quicker than you can name starting defensive players for isu under Paul Rhoads.
BDJ had charges dropped because of the 'creative' intervention of Fred Hoiberg in the matter. He was a problem and a very loose cannon from day one, but that was all swept under the rug until the neighboring tenant said enough is enough. Come NCAA time and your BDJ can't handle the pressure and goes off the very deep end never to be seen again.
When did Jok get these 'arrests' you are so hung up on here? Did one stem from a missing or malfunctioning tail light ? Do you see any difference in one person losing complete control of a vehicle being driven on a public highway and another who did none of that?
I have no doubt that you have posted here under different names. Does not really matter. I get a kick out of senile LC's defense that he has nearly 84K posts simply because he has not changed his screen id.
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