He’s literally avoided a potential situation like this a handful of times by bypassing the handshake line. You think after this debacle he’s going to need reminded that it’s a good idea to avoid those situations? Seems like he’s got that figured out
Brawl in Madison
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And yet i would bet some of the fans in this thread who say “a bigger/better man would walk away” are the same ones who were critical of Fran for “walking away”. Certainly no one commended him at the time.
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refs may miss some things in real time, however all game films are reviewed. hard to miss things that happen over and over……unless
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Again, Gard "Stopped" Howard to counter his aggressive comment. HOWARD aggressively grabbed Gard's sweater, this is the first "aggressive" move. Then Howard points his South Side Finger right in Gard's face. And of course the punch when there was clearly no one from Madison touching him or really even close.
Right. Gard shouldn't have "stopped" him and should have addressed the comments later. Gard stopping him certainly didn't warrant that kind of response, though.
Juwan should be suspended for the season. Players that threw punches should be punished. Gard's actions don't warrant punishment.
When the man says "I'll kill you" to Turgeon, that strikes me as a bit more than a "tussle." The man has serious anger issues and the Commissioner needs to deal with it before it gets even worse.
I'd agree with this much, there are certainly times when the smarter man walks away. A coach instigated brawl on live TV between two very high profile programs is one of those times the smarter man turns his back and just goes to the locker room.
If you're a coach and the thought throw a punch enters your mind the preprogrammed response should be walk away. Say your piece in the press conference.
I will so Juwaan Howard wasn't so tough when Russ Millard swaggered through the Michigan huddle, or when getting blasted in the face on rebounds.
If you didn't know the name of the Wisconsin coach, you're not even a casual Big X basketball fan...
Right, when you swing on a guy's head you're really not trying to hurt him. His brain is slow and his fist was closing after the first blow he threw..
Why is Gard getting fined?
I would refuse to do anymore handshake line if that holds.
Or my memory sucks. Hell I can't even remember the previous HC that looked like the Grinch.
Gard's fine seems appropriate, I didn't think he'd get suspended. The player suspension seems a tad on the light side, I was thinking 2 games, but whatever. If both sides had better examples for coaches none of this would have happened.
I agree with about everything they've done disciplinary wise other than Howard should be done for year not just reg season.
I don't think Coach Ryan would have handled the exchange with Juwan the way that Greg did. Bo might have just replied to the 'll remember that" exclamation with "ok-- see ya".
Purely a symbolic gesture.
was Fran or the Illinois assistants fined for a similar dustup? Was krabenhoff fined for being in violation of the sportsmanship policy?
Gard got fined because Howard threw a punch. It’s throwing a bone to those that would allege disparate treatment. $10k is pure theater. But if you think it’sa +1 in the scorebook for you on this issue, congrats!
So Kevin Warren doesn't get called an uncle tom sell-out. Absolutely unwarranted and done to avoid media scrutiny.
The turning and walking away applies to Gard. Gard and the Badgers should have turned and walked back to their bench as soon as Howard grabbed him.
How do players Williams and Neath get by with a one game suspension? They both threw and connected on at least two punches each. Neath maybe threw more than two, he cuts out of the video while throwing a punch and he cuts back in a few seconds in basically the same position and he's still throwing a punch at the same guy as previously. He's out of the video long enough to have maybe thrown two or three punches at the same target.
Does anyone think Howard will look to the NBA and "self-extended" suspension? Chaney was an old man of retirement age, who still didn't do anything as bad as Howard.
How do players Williams and Neath get by with a one game suspension? They both threw and connected on at least two punches each. Neath maybe threw more than two, he cuts out of the video while throwing a punch and he cuts back in a few seconds in basically the same position and he's still throwing a punch at the same guy as previously. He's out of the video long enough to have maybe thrown two or three punches at the same target.
Does anyone think Howard will look to the NBA and "self-extended" suspension? Chaney was an old man of retirement age, who still didn't do anything as bad as Howard.
I know this will never happen, but Howard needs to pay Gard's fine. If Howard doesn't take that swing, there's no possible way on this Earth that the Big Ten fines Gard for holding Howard's arm in the handshake line. Absolutely zero. Coaches have been doing that exact thing for as long as there have been coaches. No rational adult reacts the way Howard did and no rational adult should have been expected to predict it.
Howard paying his fine, as symbolic as it is, would go a long way toward demonstrating the kind of contrition that's in his apology statement (that someone else wrote).
Howard paying his fine, as symbolic as it is, would go a long way toward demonstrating the kind of contrition that's in his apology statement (that someone else wrote).
He got less than a slap on the wrist, I'd say they made the right call.
Shoulda booted Howard for the season though
While you are generally right, of course, that's the maximum fine they can impose in this particular case.
No, I'm just smart enough to see that weak ass punishment was PR.
You really this slow?
