Brody Grothus

[HawkTitan]

For what it's worth, this is what Tom Brands had to say about Brody on Tuesday:

Initial impressions for me were much more positive than his initial impressions. He beat himself up a lot. He should, he's a competitor. But these things aren't easy. And one of the things he said was, "I've worked so hard." You know, that doesn't matter. It doesn't matter how hard you work. What matters is how hard you work in the moment.

And that was his first competition so my point isn't to beat up on him. My points is let's take it one day at a time, that's the first thing we evaluate you on and it's not the end all. We know what we got. He internalized it and then he spit it out where when it came out the second or third time it was - and this is from his point of view - it was more like, "You know what, these are things I can control and dang-nation I'm going to control them." And that's where we're at.

So I'm not down on him. This is tough, this is a tough sport. He hasn't wrestled in over a year. The last match he had was the 2014 Midlands so it's been a year-and-a-month since he's had a match. This is what happens when you come back. And he has worked hard. But that doesn't mean it's automatic that you're going to step in and have the results you want. You have to go out and earn them.

 

[minnhawkeye]

Which I'm sure by March or even earlier that Brody will have his success. The way he is looking and working at this it is a no brainer.

 

[SPOONER]

Have U ever pulled weight?

Yes. And really if he was at 125 and bumped everyone up we would be a much stronger team. That's just 8 additional pounds. Do not see the problem.

 

[SPOONER]

Had a friend at practice yesterday. Said he looked very good.

I had a friend at the tourney on Saturday. Said he looked awful. Tired immediately. No offense from his feet. Went for turns that weren't there and got him in trouble.

 

[GG121AND2]

The Matman Invitational is this Saturday at Cornell, but I don't remember the Hawks ever sending any wrestlers there.

 

[WWDMHawkeye]

Dang nation, that was a great quote by Tom! Very well said, including another classic Brands expression. Fellas, we just got ourselves a new expletive to add to our vocabularies.

 

[Jackhawk87]

I had a friend at the tourney on Saturday. Said he looked awful. Tired immediately. No offense from his feet. Went for turns that weren't there and got him in trouble.

I'd say your friend's glass is half empty.

 

[Kwoodhawk]

Some nice quotes from Brody in the article "Lineup pieces coming together for Iowa Wrestling on Hawk Central.

Clark quotes also.

http://www.hawkcentral.com/story/sp...s-together-cory-clark-brody-grothus/78431402/

 

[taketop]

Some nice quotes from Brody in the article "Lineup pieces coming together for Iowa Wrestling on Hawk Central.

Clark quotes also.

http://www.hawkcentral.com/story/sp...s-together-cory-clark-brody-grothus/78431402/

this is old news, whats the talk from coaches after open results?

 

[Kwoodhawk]

this is old news, whats the talk from coaches after open results?

AFHawk is in charge of the real New news.

 

[el dub]

Have U ever pulled weight?

Have U ever encountered sarcasm?

 

[wyldhawk9]

For what it's worth, this is what Tom Brands had to say about Brody on Tuesday:

Initial impressions for me were much more positive than his initial impressions. He beat himself up a lot. He should, he's a competitor. But these things aren't easy. And one of the things he said was, "I've worked so hard." You know, that doesn't matter. It doesn't matter how hard you work. What matters is how hard you work in the moment.

And that was his first competition so my point isn't to beat up on him. My points is let's take it one day at a time, that's the first thing we evaluate you on and it's not the end all. We know what we got. He internalized it and then he spit it out where when it came out the second or third time it was - and this is from his point of view - it was more like, "You know what, these are things I can control and dang-nation I'm going to control them." And that's where we're at.

So I'm not down on him. This is tough, this is a tough sport. He hasn't wrestled in over a year. The last match he had was the 2014 Midlands so it's been a year-and-a-month since he's had a match. This is what happens when you come back. And he has worked hard. But that doesn't mean it's automatic that you're going to step in and have the results you want. You have to go out and earn them.

Thanks HawkTitan! I really appreciate you taking the time to type all that up. I'm rooting for Brody!

 

[wyldhawk9]

Just came across this little dandy from 2014...highlights from Grothus/Grajales OT match at Carver:

 

[Jackhawk87]

Saw Brody was at the meet. Looked good physically. Carton looked OK but not like an AA. Hope Brody is ready soon.

 

[AFHawk86]

Will Brody wrestle next week? What's the over/under?

 

[gablefan73]

Will Brody wrestle next week? What's the over/under?

I would put the odds highly in Brody's favor.

 

[Knight563]

I'm going with Brody vs Purdue. Carton could of grabbed the bull by the horns at Wisconsin BUT didn't. With 41 so wide open in the entire country I'm still holding out hope one of these guys can figure it out.

 

[milehighhawkeye24]

Don't have anything to say, just wanted to contribute to a 20 page thread

 

[Kwoodhawk]

Don't have anything to say, just wanted to contribute to a 20 page thread

Postoftheyear.

 

[whejoe]

It's getting late in the dual season, so is it too late for the Hawks to qualify for an allotment spot at 141 for bigs if Brody is the guy? I think recently 141 has been given the fewest spots for nationals and I've noticed there are only a few b10 guys ranked at 141. Does only having a few ranked guys play into how many spots are allotted for the b10?

Does Topher have enough dual starts to qualify a spot for IA? If he doesn't, does Brands give the rest of the starts to Brody to screw the rest of the b10 out of a qualifying spot?

 

[DonHawkeye]

I think the better question would be can Carton get enough wins/matches to qualify a spot and get enough wins to qualify himself for a wildcard if he missed one of those spots. I think he would have to win all the matches minus Neb and Minn, and at most likely one of them too. Even than I am not sure he would have enough to get him an automatic bid. There would be the national duals match as well.

Grothus seems like he needs time to get in better shape. Training hard in the room for a couple more weeks may be just what he needs. I wouldn't be surprised if we saw Brands go with Carton through next weekend. If he would win at Purdue and at Neb or Minn it may be pretty hard to go with Grothus. If Carton looks bad then it for sure opens the door up for Grothus and he had 2 1/2 more weeks wrestling hard in the room.

 

[JohnBasedow]

I think we will see Brody this weekend. Both Purdue and Nebraska have guys that will be good benchmarks for him.

 

[sloehawk]

I think the better question would be can Carton get enough wins/matches to qualify a spot and get enough wins to qualify himself for a wildcard if he missed one of those spots. I think he would have to win all the matches minus Neb and Minn, and at most likely one of them too. Even than I am not sure he would have enough to get him an automatic bid. There would be the national duals match as well.

Grothus seems like he needs time to get in better shape. Training hard in the room for a couple more weeks may be just what he needs. I wouldn't be surprised if we saw Brands go with Carton through next weekend. If he would win at Purdue and at Neb or Minn it may be pretty hard to go with Grothus. If Carton looks bad then it for sure opens the door up for Grothus and he had 2 1/2 more weeks wrestling hard in the room.

From where I sit that door is wide open waiting for someone to bust thru it, and that hasn't come remotely close to happening.

I honestly can't see a scenario where Brands has Brody go thru all of this, and not basically be handed the spot at some point in time. I think he's going to sink or swim with Grothus at some point. All-in type of thing.

He's got some good wins under his belt previously, he's in his Senior season, and trying to overcome surgery and moving down a weight. I think Tom has a pretty good idea what all goes into that, and I'd be stunned if he doesn't give him WAY more leash than he would anybody else, largely because of the results of those who have been manning the spot to this point, versus the upside of a somewhat proven commodity, albeit at a lower weight than before.

To summarize: I'd be STUNNED if Brody Grothus were not the Hawks representative at 141 lbs when the Big Ten Tournament gets underway in Iowa City, no matter what his record is to that juncture.

 

[whejoe]

I don't know if PSU will have a spot qualified either for 141 as there is a battle between Moss and JG. So the pressure will really be on Brody to qualify as he will not get a wildcard.

 

[AFHawk86]

Since I can only see 1 day into the future, I don't yet know if Brody will wrestle vs Purdue. Ask me on Thursday and I'll be able answer the question.

 

[Kwoodhawk]

Since I can only see 1 day into the future, I don't yet know if Brody will wrestle vs Purdue. Ask me on Thursday and I'll be able answer the question.

And let me be the first to NOT thank you for helping out with the correct winning Powerball numbers. Shhhssss.......

 

[texhawkeye]

I was told that the coaches will base their 141 decision on the length and quality of this thread.

 

[JBJRFL]

I was told that the coaches will base their 141 decision on the length and quality of this thread.

Well, those are certainly two of the top components.

 

[Jackhawk87]

I was told that the coaches will base their 141 decision on the length and quality of this thread.

Well I would like to see Brody out there wrestling, so I will add to the length. Sorry I couldn't help out on the quality part.

 

[Kwoodhawk]

I was told that the coaches will base their 141 decision on the length and quality of this thread.

I can't find the Topher thread anywhere..............

 

[#10Hawk]

Post #791; just 9 more to reach a monumental 800! Common' people...

 

[Jackhawk87]

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Grothus seems like he needs time to get in better shape. Training hard in the room for a couple more weeks may be just what he needs. I wouldn't be surprised if we saw Brands go with Carton through next weekend. If he would win at Purdue and at Neb or Minn it may be pretty hard to go with Grothus. If Carton looks bad then it for sure opens the door up for Grothus and he had 2 1/2 more weeks wrestling hard in the room.

I don't think Brody needs more time to physically get in better shape. Mentally - maybe? In Dubuque, he didn't wrestle smart and seemed really down on himself mentally and chose not to wrestle his final match.

If he is mentally prepared and ready to wrestle a smart match, he should be out wrestling this weekend. Whether that is in a dual meet or in another open is the question. Brody should be our #1 option at Big Tens. Hopefully he will be doing this weekend whatever it takes to get him ready for that eventuality.

I think we know what we got in Topher (and Ryan). Time for Brody to step up and show us what he's really got.

 

[texas twister]

I expect Grothus this Friday. Time to spit or get off the pot or something like that.

 

[Jackhawk87]

Surprised that we have not gotten ANY reports about how Brody is doing against Carton, Ryan and others in the room. C'mon guys, spill it. Don't make me beg any more than I already am. Is he looking a little sluggish and sloppy or is he killing it in the room and just had a really, really bad outing at the Pat Flannigan Open?

 

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[Keeker16]

800 Don't have any insight into what Brody will do...but happy to contribute.