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Clarence Thomas

Your mistake is not having that moron on ignore like I do. :)
I don’t have anyone on ignore, if for no other reason than the entertainment from seeing posters sometimes make fools of themselves (as I’m sure I do on occasion)
Wouldn’t calling someone who is black an Uncle Tom be guilty of bringing race into the conversation? Just saying.
thats part of the point to be fair (11th sign of the apocalypse-I’m even partially agreeing with you), but Torbee clearly isn’t viewing the use of “Uncle Tom” in the same way as others do. I wouldn’t have said it, because him doing so simply led to a pointless side debate about what saying that truly meant vs discussing the issue at hand.

and for the record, if thomas had any respect for the office he holds and the institution he is a part of, he’d resign. Quite frankly, if House republicans had any integrity, they’d at least open an investigation into this - if everything is as bad as it sounds, imo this is potentially impeachment-worthy. If roberts and co on the court had any remaining self-awareness, they’d see this and realize they have to create a formal code of conduct that justices have to abide by going forward to try and restore legitimacy to the court.
 
I don’t have anyone on ignore, if for no other reason than the entertainment from seeing posters sometimes make fools of themselves (as I’m sure I do on occasion)

thats part of the point to be fair (11th sign of the apocalypse-I’m even partially agreeing with you), but Torbee clearly isn’t viewing the use of “Uncle Tom” in the same way as others do. I wouldn’t have said it, because him doing so simply led to a pointless side debate about what saying that truly meant vs discussing the issue at hand.

and for the record, if thomas had any respect for the office he holds and the institution he is a part of, he’d resign. Quite frankly, if House republicans had any integrity, they’d at least open an investigation into this - if everything is as bad as it sounds, imo this is potentially impeachment-worthy. If roberts and co on the court had any remaining self-awareness, they’d see this and realize they have to create a formal code of conduct that justices have to abide by going forward to try and restore legitimacy to the court.
So interestingly, I actually do sometimes take criticism from here seriously and seek out second-opinions.

Every Friday, a former newspaper colleague and I meet up for beers at a bar in Rock Island that has a very diverse clientele. Last Friday, we were at a table with several other ex-colleagues, two of whom are Black.

So I reiterated the debate we'd had from here, and showed them my post that started the entire argument. Both of them said it was a proper and accurate use of the term. They did say, however, that in the Black community, it is sort of a "nuclear option" insult and that it should only be used in extreme cases, which they said this one was. Now, note these folks are also VERY progressive and align with me politically, so I fully admit that is a factor in their opinion.

But I did feel better after hearing it from them verbatim, as I work hard to NOT be racially insenstive.
 
Hasvthere been any spin from Thomas's Camp or defenders about the real estate sales? The vacations, gifts, etc are disgusting. But this one really crosses a line. I'm sure the defense will be probably essentially is so what.
 
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So interestingly, I actually do sometimes take criticism from here seriously and seek out second-opinions.

Every Friday, a former newspaper colleague and I meet up for beers at a bar in Rock Island that has a very diverse clientele. Last Friday, we were at a table with several other ex-colleagues, two of whom are Black.

So I reiterated the debate we'd had from here, and showed them my post that started the entire argument. Both of them said it was a proper and accurate use of the term. They did say, however, that in the Black community, it is sort of a "nuclear option" insult and that it should only be used in extreme cases, which they said this one was. Now, note these folks are also VERY progressive and align with me politically, so I fully admit that is a factor in their opinion.

But I did feel better after hearing it from them verbatim, as I work hard to NOT be racially insenstive.

Fair enough - I just see that as opening the door for people to deflect away from the main issue.

Not dissimilar from how Fox News, conservatives have attacked the NYC AG and everything around the case…but rarely debate the actual case. We’ll see the same thing if/when charge come out of Georgia or DC.
 
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Fair enough - I just see that as opening the door for people to deflect away from the main issue.

Not dissimilar from how Fox News, conservatives have attacked the NYC AG and everything around the case…but rarely debate the actual case. We’ll see the same thing if/when charge come out of Georgia or DC.
But, I mean, C'MON MAN! 😂

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Huh...a "1/3 interest" in a property valued at "$15,000 or less"
That Harlan Crow bought for >$130,000???

Either Harlan Crow is just a horrible horrible real-estate business guy, or this was really really illegal!!!!
 

Ginni Thomas Vows Not to Let Husband’s Problems Interfere with Her Work on Supreme Court​

By Andy Borowitz
April 14, 2023

WASHINGTON (The Borowitz Report)—Ginni Thomas has reassured the American people that she is doing everything in her power to keep her husband’s mounting ethical issues from interfering with her work on the United States Supreme Court.

Acknowledging that her husband’s controversies were a “distraction,” Thomas said, “They shouldn’t keep me from doing the important work I was sent here to do.”

“There are reproductive rights to shred and environmental protections to erase,” she said. “Regardless of the mess Clarence has gotten himself into, I need to keep my focus.”

Calling her post as Associate Justice of the Supreme Court “a job I’ve loved for the past three decades,” Thomas said, “I’m hopping mad that Clarence would do anything to jeopardize that. But anyone who thinks that I’m giving less than a hundred per cent to my work doesn’t know what Ginni Thomas is made of.”
It’s funny because this is probably what she’s telling her Q buddies, and her best friend.
 
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So interestingly, I actually do sometimes take criticism from here seriously and seek out second-opinions.

Every Friday, a former newspaper colleague and I meet up for beers at a bar in Rock Island that has a very diverse clientele. Last Friday, we were at a table with several other ex-colleagues, two of whom are Black.

So I reiterated the debate we'd had from here, and showed them my post that started the entire argument. Both of them said it was a proper and accurate use of the term. They did say, however, that in the Black community, it is sort of a "nuclear option" insult and that it should only be used in extreme cases, which they said this one was. Now, note these folks are also VERY progressive and align with me politically, so I fully admit that is a factor in their opinion.

But I did feel better after hearing it from them verbatim, as I work hard to NOT be racially insenstive.
2 black friends? Not on Facebook, either, huh?Look at you bragging and being progressive!
 
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Huh...a "1/3 interest" in a property valued at "$15,000 or less"
That Harlan Crow bought for >$130,000???

Either Harlan Crow is just a horrible horrible real-estate business guy, or this was really really illegal!!!!
Clarence let his mother life in a shack essentially. I know Clarence isn't a billionaire but he has to be able to afford something s bit better for her.
 
If nothing else, it just provides an opening for people to claim racism instead of addressing this.

Traditionally, referring to someone as an Uncle Tom is not a compliment so it allows posters to deflect to that instead.
Calling a successful black man an Uncle Tom is an insult to their entire race. It implies wanting to keep them down or implies that being successful is uppity.

I don’t buy anyone’s excuses for calling an African American an Uncle Tom. It reeks of blatant racism.
 
This is a great idea:

Item one: Clarence Thomas broke the law. Dick Durbin, what are you prepared to do about it?​

Remember this scene from The Untouchables?
Eliot Ness (Kevin Costner) says he wants to get Capone. Malone (Sean Connery) responds: “What are you prepared to do?” It’s a simple but emotionally powerful scene.

Malone goes on to recommend certain extralegal courses of action that I hasten to point out I do not endorse in the current instance, but: We now know, thanks to the heroic trio at ProPublica (Justin Elliott, Joshua Kaplan, and Alex Mierjeski) that Clarence Thomas violated the law. Their earlier reporting on Thomas from two weeks ago was stunning enough, about all the trips and gifts Thomas accepted from megadonor Harlan “Hey, they’re just World War II souvenirs!” Crow. But even that jaw-dropping report had to be qualified: Crow’s “apparent” gifts to Thomas, whose failure to disclose them “appears” to violate the law.

Now there is little such ambiguity. Crow bought a house Thomas owned in Savannah, Georgia, in 2014 for $133,000. A federal law passed after Watergate requires officials—including Supreme Court justices—to disclose the details of most real estate transactions worth more than $1,000. There is an exception in the law for primary residences, but that doesn’t apply here—Thomas didn’t live there, and neither did his wife. The law says Thomas was required to provide “a brief description, the date, and category of value of any purchase, sale or exchange during the preceding calendar year which exceeds $1,000.” He did not.

As responsible journalists and not lawyers, ProPublica’s reporters don’t say outright that it’s a violation of law. But they quote legal experts who do say so. “He needed to report his interest in the sale,” said Virginia Canter, a former government ethics lawyer now at the watchdog group CREW. Interestingly, Thomas filed a disclosure for 2014 that, ProPublica reports, got rather specific: “Thomas’ financial disclosure for that year is detailed, listing everything from a ‘stained glass medallion’ he received from Yale to a life insurance policy. But he failed to report his sale to Crow.”

Hmmm. Why would that be?

It’s hard to imagine a legitimate excuse. A major donor who’d been giving Clarence and Ginni Thomas lavish gifts for years finally went so far as to purchase a house he owned (Thomas shared ownership with his brother and mother). Thomas obviously made money from the sale. He didn’t disclose it. Clearly, the intent of the law is for the public to know about such matters. Thomas decided the public had a right to know about his stained-glass medallion but not this house.
This brings us to the Democrats.

Earlier this week, I wrote in response to ProPublica’s first report that the Democrats need to destroy Thomas’s reputation by holding hearings on his dealings, which of course is something they’ve never done. “Have a long hearing that lays bare every instance of his and his wife’s corrupt activities in a high-profile venue that Americans will watch,” I wrote. “Make the case to swing-voting Americans that he is dishonoring the court’s name and reputation; drive his approval ratings into the toilet (in a 2022 YouGov poll, Thomas already had the highest ‘very unfavorable’ rating of the nine justices, at 32 percent); and force the Republican senators to vote to keep this clearly undeserving, mediocre, arrogant, unscrupulous hornswoggler on the court.”

Now the case for action is even clearer. But action by whom? There’s only one serious contender: the Senate Judiciary Committee. It’s controlled by the Democrats, and they can do whatever they are prepared to do. But what exactly is that?

Last Monday, after the first ProPublica report, committee Chairman Dick Durbin vowed that the committee “will act.” He did not elaborate on that. Later, he urged Chief Justice John Roberts to investigate Thomas. Then I saw on cable news Thursday night (I can’t find anything online Friday morning) that he called on Merrick Garland to do something.

Mr. Chairman: Stop tossing the football around. You have a gavel, and you have subpoena power. Subpoena Clarence Thomas. Next week.

What? Horrors! Subpoena a Supreme Court justice? Can that even be done?

Yes. Congress can subpoena anybody it wants to. In fact, it has been done, at least once. In 1953, the House Un-American Activities Committee subpoenaed Associate Supreme Court Justice Tom Clark, who had been Harry Truman’s attorney general. It also subpoenaed James Byrnes, who had been Truman’s secretary of state—and Truman himself! This was all prompted by charges leveled by Herbert Brownell, Dwight Eisenhower’s attorney general, that Truman had knowingly as president appointed a Russian spy to an International Monetary Fund position (this was the economist Harry Dexter White; the general historical verdict is that White did pass some classified information to the Soviet Union but was not a Communist or Marxist dedicated to Soviet triumph in the Philby-Burgess sense).

None of them ever appeared before the committee, and sure, HUAC does not represent one of our country’s proudest moments by a long shot. I admit that gives me a moment’s pause. But we are not in the middle of a Red Scare here. There is no witch hunt taking place of prominent right-wingers (well, if you live on normal Earth, there’s not). No careers are being destroyed. All we have here is a man, one man, one very corrupt man, who is supposed to be one of this nation’s nine most preeminent lawgivers, but who clearly thinks he is above the law.

And this returns us to Malone. Senator Durbin: What are you prepared to do?
 
Also, I hope Pro Publica has even more dirt on this scumbag.

Drip. Drip. Drip.
If not them, I hope some people are looking at any transactions liked to Crow and Ginni, or Clarence’s son, Jamal. People who aren’t good at corruption often go the one degree of separation route.
 
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They uncovered kickback payments from Burisma of $3.4 million dollars to the Morgan Stanley account of Rosemon Seneca Bohai LLC, a company controlled by Hunter Biden. That was only part of the payments made to Hunter Biden who was the conduit and front-man for Joe Biden.

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General Prosecutor’s Office of Ukraine (GPO) Chart Showing the Flow of Illegal
 
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Clarence let his mother life in a shack essentially. I know Clarence isn't a billionaire but he has to be able to afford something s bit better for her.

Yes....but like Clayton Bigsby......once he sat down and thought about it, he realized she was a ******-lover....
 
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They uncovered kickback payments from Burisma of $3.4 million dollars to the Morgan Stanley account of Rosemon Seneca Bohai LLC, a company controlled by Hunter Biden. That was only part of the payments made to Hunter Biden who was the conduit and front-man for Joe Biden.

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General Prosecutor’s Office of Ukraine (GPO) Chart Showing the Flow of Illegal

Better get this to Chris Wray.....FAST!!!!!

(Nvr mind....it's just "Q" bullshit and Wray already passed on it)
 
It's funny how there are always excuses for the Bidens and any Democrat really. You people couldn't be more delusional. I like it though. It makes me chuckle.
 
Tell me you’re surprised without being surprised. “… in broad daylight!”

Not really going to be a difficult exercise, to go back and review every case that the AEI filed an amicus, and track how Thomas voted. OR to identify elements in his decisions and his Court comments which match things they wrote.

That's pretty much child's play to link "what they wanted" to "what he did".
 
Not really going to be a difficult exercise, to go back and review every case that the AEI filed an amicus, and track how Thomas voted. OR to identify elements in his decisions and his Court comments which match things they wrote.

That's pretty much child's play to link "what they wanted" to "what he did".
Hopefully this will help to “force” some ethical oversight of the SC.
That guy is friggin unbelievable. Not really tho, he is what was obvious for a long time.
 
Hopefully this will help to “force” some ethical oversight of the SC.
Hopefully, Roberts will recognize HE has to be the one stepping up and doing something, if he wants his Court to have any legitimacy, at all.

He cannot "step back" and expect Democrats to fix this, because he knows full well the GOP isn't going to do shit.
 
Hopefully, Roberts will recognize HE has to be the one stepping up and doing something, if he wants his Court to have any legitimacy, at all.

He cannot "step back" and expect Democrats to fix this, because he knows full well the GOP isn't going to do shit.
Yep.
 
Hopefully, Roberts will recognize HE has to be the one stepping up and doing something, if he wants his Court to have any legitimacy, at all.

He cannot "step back" and expect Democrats to fix this, because he knows full well the GOP isn't going to do shit.

If he doesn’t he’s going to go down in history as one of the worst Chief Justices in history; and he’s made clear that he cares a great deal about his legacy.
 
2011 article about Harlan Crow giving his boy's wife Ginni money to start the Tea Party, and buying a local cannery to create a museum about him and his hometown.


Bought and paid for.
 
Can Thomas be shamed enough to resign? That's the only question that matters. The GOP will not impeach him...period. They will not cede that seat to Biden. Thomas could be convicted of felonies and sentenced to jail time and he would still hold his seat. I'm squarely on the side of the fence that says Thomas will refuse to resign...and that refusal will have the full-throated support of the GOP.
 
Can Thomas be shamed enough to resign? That's the only question that matters. The GOP will not impeach him...period. They will not cede that seat to Biden. Thomas could be convicted of felonies and sentenced to jail time and he would still hold his seat. I'm squarely on the side of the fence that says Thomas will refuse to resign...and that refusal will have the full-throated support of the GOP.

He won’t resign.
He won’t be impeached much less convicted.

If the situation was reversed, the cons would have subpoenaed Kagan to appear this week. Schumer won’t do that.

Hope I’m wrong - don’t think I am.
 
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The left has been trying to target Clarence Thomas since his confirmation hearings. This is just the latest round of trying to model day lynch a black man that doesn't follow leftist ideology.
No one hates a “model day lynch” as much as I do, whatever that is, but you’re really outdoing yourself with this lunacy. Throwing Caitlyn Clark in your post was a nice touch.
 
He won’t resign.
He won’t be impeached much less convicted.

If the situation was reversed, the cons would have subpoenaed Kagan to appear this week. Schumer won’t do that.

Hope I’m wrong - don’t think I am.
The stench is going to become so strong that the Senate...I hope...will HAVE to hold hearings. They won't come to anything other than to lay out in the starkest terms exactly what happened. Let the "moderates" chew on that and challenge them to vote accordingly. There really isn't anything else that can be done.
 
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He won’t resign.
He won’t be impeached much less convicted.

If the situation was reversed, the cons would have subpoenaed Kagan to appear this week. Schumer won’t do that.

Hope I’m wrong - don’t think I am.

To be fair, near impossible for the senate judiciary committee to do much until the Feinstein situation gets sorted - they don’t have the votes to issue a subpoena until she returns/steps down or a republican crosses the line.
 
To be fair, near impossible for the senate judiciary committee to do much until the Feinstein situation gets sorted - they don’t have the votes to issue a subpoena until she returns/steps down or a republican crosses the line.
They won't be able to do squat if she steps down and the GOP wants to bring its work to a halt. They need 60 votes for a new organizing resolution to replace her...even temporarily.
 
Hopefully, Roberts will recognize HE has to be the one stepping up and doing something, if he wants his Court to have any legitimacy, at all.

He cannot "step back" and expect Democrats to fix this, because he knows full well the GOP isn't going to do shit.
Agreed. I have zero confidence in Thomas’ integrity and that means the Court’s reputation is now tainted (for me). That’s a shame.
 
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