There's lots of causes across age groups. But you're not interested in learning. Because you've already made up your mind because of your biases.
Continue in your ignorance. You're comfortable there.
Close friend pleading with me to not vaccinate our baby
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Continue in your ignorance. You're comfortable there.
There are studies that indicate post-vaccination blood clotting, you know that. Studies that would indicate "a lot more" would never be published as that would only add to vaccine hesitancy.
Perhaps posting a link?
To the op, doing the ‘go read it yourself’ to support your position is pretty weak. Post the facts and bury the opposition.
He has no links to any studies; only Twitter diatribes and Youtube videos from quacks.
Did you ever read that last article you were trying to post as a gotcha, but instead got absolutely embarrassed?
Who is "Del"?
Why are you posting more rando memes, and zero publications, like you (falsely) claim to have posted?
The topic of vaccines and their potential side effects, including the formation of blood clots, has been the subject of extensive research and monitoring, especially in the context of COVID-19 vaccines. Here is a summary of the current evidence:
COVID-19 Vaccines and Blood Clots
- AstraZeneca (Vaxzevria) and Johnson & Johnson (Janssen) Vaccines: There have been reports of a rare but serious condition involving blood clots with low platelets, known as thrombosis with thrombocytopenia syndrome (TTS), associated with these vaccines. The cases are very rare and have prompted regulatory agencies to issue guidance and precautions.
- Incidence: The risk of developing TTS is very low. For the AstraZeneca vaccine, estimates suggest about 4-6 cases per million doses administered. For the Johnson & Johnson vaccine, the risk is about 3 cases per million doses administered.
- Symptoms: TTS typically occurs within two weeks after vaccination and includes symptoms like severe headaches, abdominal pain, leg swelling, and shortness of breath.
Mechanism and Risk Factors
- Mechanism: The exact mechanism behind TTS is not fully understood but is thought to involve an immune response that activates platelets. This condition resembles heparin-induced thrombocytopenia (HIT), where antibodies target platelet factor 4 (PF4) bound to heparin, causing clot formation.
- Risk Factors: While anyone can potentially develop TTS, it has been observed more frequently in women under the age of 50. However, the overall incidence remains very low across all demographics.
Regulatory Responses
- Guidance and Warnings: Health authorities, including the European Medicines Agency (EMA), the U.S. Food and Drug Administration (FDA), and the World Health Organization (WHO), have acknowledged the risk of TTS but emphasize that the benefits of vaccination far outweigh the risks for the vast majority of people.
- Vaccine Recommendations: In some regions, recommendations have been updated to prefer mRNA vaccines (Pfizer-BioNTech and Moderna) for certain age groups or populations due to the lower observed risk of blood clots.
Non-COVID-19 Vaccines
- General Vaccines: For most vaccines (non-COVID-19), there is no significant evidence linking them to an increased risk of blood clots. Vaccines are generally considered safe and effective, with the benefits of preventing serious diseases outweighing potential risks.
Conclusion
While there is evidence of a rare association between certain COVID-19 vaccines and blood clots, the occurrence is extremely rare. The benefits of vaccination in preventing COVID-19, including severe disease and death, significantly outweigh the risks of these rare adverse events. Monitoring and research are ongoing to ensure vaccine safety.Sources:
These sources provide detailed and updated information on the safety and side effects of vaccines.
If I was embarrassed about it I wouldn't be back to bump the thread. We both know what the article states and it's not good for you.
Let's talk about who should embarrassed. Who is overseeing this chronic health epidemic in America among both adults and children? You dimwits are about as much a part of it than the fast food-eating couch potato public themselves. US leads in infant mortality among other civilized countries. What about medical errors being the 3rd leading cause of death in the US? Much of your profession has become band-aid snake oil peddlers with laundry lists of significant side effects instead of caring enough to tackle the root cause of health problems. So how about you take your unwarranted high and mighty attitude and go sit your ass in the corner where it belongs.
What "chronic health epidemic" are you referring to?
The one he read about when he was looking for the information that exactly he wanted! Otherwise known as not a real thing.
The Relation of the Chronic Disease Epidemic to the Health Care Crisis
"Currently, some 50% of the US population has a chronic disease, creating an epidemic....The medical profession and its leadership did not recognize or respond appropriately to the rising prevalence of chronic disease. As a consequence, a health care crisis emerged, with inadequate access to care and quality of care together with excessive costs."And
"Sixty years ago, a new and dominating health problem emerged: chronic disease. It has now reached epidemic proportions, affecting 50% of the population and consuming 86% of health care expenditures. The fundamental responsibility of the medical profession is to create a health care system and a practice of medicine that meet the needs of current illnesses and patients. The profession has not done so."
The Relation of the Chronic Disease Epidemic to the Health Care Crisis - PMC
Currently, some 50% of the US population has a chronic disease, creating an epidemic, and 86% of health care costs are attributable to chronic disease. The medical profession and its leadership did not recognize or respond appropriately to the ...
www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov
And, I believe among children it's 12% in the 80's to 54% a few years back.
Quit wasting my time Joe. I've got better things to do.
There are some great dead handles in this thread. Covid made a lot of rational people go crazy. Or, maybe it was there and just waiting to burst out?
hawkeyetraveler
HB Heisman
This has nothing to do with vaccinations and not much an average doctor can do either. Americans don’t exercise enough, they eat fatty foods, they drink, they sit on the couch, You know what every doctor tells them at their annual physical: eat healthy, exercise, drink less, don’t smoke, etc.The Relation of the Chronic Disease Epidemic to the Health Care Crisis
"Currently, some 50% of the US population has a chronic disease, creating an epidemic....The medical profession and its leadership did not recognize or respond appropriately to the rising prevalence of chronic disease. As a consequence, a health care crisis emerged, with inadequate access to care and quality of care together with excessive costs."
And
"Sixty years ago, a new and dominating health problem emerged: chronic disease. It has now reached epidemic proportions, affecting 50% of the population and consuming 86% of health care expenditures. The fundamental responsibility of the medical profession is to create a health care system and a practice of medicine that meet the needs of current illnesses and patients. The profession has not done so."
The Relation of the Chronic Disease Epidemic to the Health Care Crisis - PMC
Currently, some 50% of the US population has a chronic disease, creating an epidemic, and 86% of health care costs are attributable to chronic disease. The medical profession and its leadership did not recognize or respond appropriately to the ...
And, I believe among children it's 12% in the 80's to 54% a few years back.
Quit wasting my time Joe. I've got better things to do.
Acting like this is the fault of medical professionals is quite frankly silly. If a fatty eats too many cheeseburgers, despite the obvious health implications, it’s no one’s fault but the fatty.
This is not hard and you have ground your axe into dust.
Ilk
The WHO IARC released a daunting prediction of the global cancer burden. It estimates more than 35 million new cancer cases in 2050 — a 77% increase from the estimated 20 million cancer cases that occurred in 2022.The Relation of the Chronic Disease Epidemic to the Health Care Crisis
"Currently, some 50% of the US population has a chronic disease, creating an epidemic....The medical profession and its leadership did not recognize or respond appropriately to the rising prevalence of chronic disease. As a consequence, a health care crisis emerged, with inadequate access to care and quality of care together with excessive costs."
And
"Sixty years ago, a new and dominating health problem emerged: chronic disease. It has now reached epidemic proportions, affecting 50% of the population and consuming 86% of health care expenditures. The fundamental responsibility of the medical profession is to create a health care system and a practice of medicine that meet the needs of current illnesses and patients. The profession has not done so."
The Relation of the Chronic Disease Epidemic to the Health Care Crisis - PMC
Currently, some 50% of the US population has a chronic disease, creating an epidemic, and 86% of health care costs are attributable to chronic disease. The medical profession and its leadership did not recognize or respond appropriately to the ...
And, I believe among children it's 12% in the 80's to 54% a few years back.
Quit wasting my time Joe. I've got better things to do.
You took me out of context, Cletus. Let's recap. My root post was explaining to the resident HBOT MD that he and his profession should be the one to be embarrassed. Then, you cried WHAT EPIDEMIC? Then, a dipstick Joe disciple says:
Then I post A REAL THING.
Then our cute little resident HBOT Einstein posts:
Joe's answer to everything is microplastics. His new scapegoat. Anything but the vaccines.
A lot of us knew all about microplastics, which is why we never wore those useless face masks.
Not only are you late to the party but you’re overestimating the % of new cancer diagnoses attributed to them.
All the anti-vaxers and COVID deniers need to be rounded up and given their own reservation in the middle of Utah in Arizona. They can live in their own little colony. (they are dumb enough to believe other shit, perhaps they are are dumb enough to believe they are in Utah when they are actually in Arizona)
I guarantee they’d be healthier than a colony of jabbed and boosted, mask wearing Americans.
So volunteer to organize this community of "healthy people". You sound like you know what you believe. Put your money where your mouth is.
I’m not an anti-vaxxer. Just choose not to get any…and sure as hell not about to let anyone force them on me or my family.
Tough guy. You realize you were not allowed to go to school (or do I say college) without certain vaccines?
Yeah, I know, remember the good old days when dad would get you all in the back of the station wagon, and said, that polio vaccine is a crock of shit. "Science is bullshit, son. Don't ever let them tell you different".
Americans used to be quite gullible in that regard.
Pharma greed woke a lot of people with the covid vaccine fiasco.
Baby steps.
