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I don’t know what a guy playing in some of the Euro leagues earns but I’m guessing it is only around $150,000 per year. Maybe some make double that. There are many posters here that still earn more.
Very few, and definitely not the idiot I was responding to.
 
Sincerely hope TC doesn't get his advice from HR. Hope he follows the smart guys that give him well thought out advice. Wish him the best no matter what he does.
This. Will another year improve his chances? Hard to say, but expectations will be high so he may have another chance to do it on a bigger stage. Or he could blow out a knee in the second game and never see the floor again. Either way, I am rooting for him because he's a Hawk.
 
No matter where he is playing he will be making more $$$$$$ than you will.

That sounds like something a 15 year old would say. Forgett the fact that it has about a 50/50 shot of being accurate its totally irrelevant either way.

Playing basketball is not a career unless you make the NBA.

Otherwise you're getting a real job sooner than later.
 
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Selfishly, the advice I would give him would be-come back to Iowa and lead the Big 10 in rebounding. Don't worry about your offensive game, the less you expose yourself the better. Average double figure points by being a monster on the offensive glass. Oh, and also get to being a 75% FT shooter. Then I like your 1st round chances.

While that advice would likely move him up (slightly) I challenge anyone to review the mock drafts. The second round is loaded with guys who can score, rebound, are athletic, etc.
PJ Washington, as an example, has improved his stock with recent play for Kentucky, but a few months ago was considered a 2nd round pick (at least according to some "experts"). He is Big, Athletic and solid on the offensive end. Ultimately, teams are drafting based on potential and Cook's shooting and all around game 'upside' seems muted at best.
 
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That sounds like something a 15 year old would say. Forgett the fact that it has about a 50/50 shot of being accurate its totally irrelevant either way.

Playing basketball ball is not a career unless you make the NBA.

Otherwise you're getting a real job sooner than later.
Gatens and Whitey made good money playing in Europe. So could Cook.
 
He'll be making more than you. And I'm not his mother.

I did learn how to write. Hopefully they will teach you that when you get to high school. :)

Congrats and don’t worry about me I’m living quite comfortably with my income.
 
He would be very fortunate to start at 150k overseas. My guess is it will be less. Its tax free though. And most teams provide housing and cars from what I have read. It would be no different than starting a job post college and probably better. But that will be there next year too.
 
Gatens and Whitey made good money playing in Europe. So could Cook.

And Gatens did it for about 3 years, and then came back and got to work in the real world......with a degree.

Making Europe money for 10 or so years doesn't mean much when you have bill's to pay your whole life.

It's great experience as long as you have something to do when you get back. That's why no one with a brain leaves early for Europe.
 
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He would be very fortunate to start at 150k overseas. My guess is it will be less. Its tax free though. And most teams provide housing and cars from what I have read. It would be no different than starting a job post college and probably better. But that will be there next year too.

Its actually allot different because it depends on your physical health and the experience doesn't translate to anything else.

That's why you do it after you get a free degree.
 
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And Gatens did it for about 3 years, and then came back and got to work in the real world......with a degree.

Making Europe money for 10 or so years doesn't mean much when you have bill's to pay your whole life.

It's great if you have something to do when you get back. That's why no one with a brain leaves early for Europe.

Plus it all depends what league you are in. White makes good $ and one reason he bypassed wizards training camp after being drafted was he got a contract from a top tier league. Compared to guys like Gesell in Denmark who didn’t make in the same ball park as white. However people forget most leagues have a cap and only allow 2-3 US based players per roster. Why someone like Olaseni being British makes it easier to land a roster spot and play longer if he chooses to do so. So lot of former nba guys who are proven commodities are ones usually in top tier leagues, like a Dev Marble who played 2 seasons. I agree cook can make good $ just depends where he lands but doesn’t mean he will get a lucrative deal right away.

That’s why even when the argument being a 2nd rd pick doesn’t matter cause not a guaranteed deal like a 1st rd pick. In fact it can impact an offer from a league in Europe if a player like white has been drafted attracting more interest from teams.
 
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And Gatens did it for about 3 years, and then came back and got to work in the real world......with a degree.

Making Europe money for 10 or so years doesn't mean much when you have bill's to pay your whole life.

It's great experience as long as you have something to do when you get back. That's why no one with a brain leaves early for Europe.
I just read that Whitey signed a $500k/year contract. https://www.nbcsports.com/washingto...n-team-2-year-deal-bypasses-wizards-training-
So he wasn't making chump change. And I read another article where he got an even better offer after that contract expired. Fi d that o e yourself.

I doubt that Cook thinks he is leaving early for Europe. But if he ends up there, it's not the end of the world for him. He has unique talents that they will pay for.
 
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You're not missing anything. The reason Cook has interest from the NBA is that athletically he could rebound and defend out to the 3-point line, and can finish near the rim. Many guys have made good NBA careers out of that.

Before everyone says "he can't shoot," "he turns it over too much," "he can't pass out of of the post," stop. You aren't wrong, but he would not be asked to do those things in the NBA (or at least not nearly as often as he has to do it at Iowa. He is one of our 2 best post players, but it also the best on the team at going off the dribble. So he gets put in situations where asked to be a playmaker and not just a finisher.

I have really no idea if he will make it in the NBA or not. My opinion is that he will be given an opportunity to do so. But if he does make it, it won't be because his outside shot got better. It will be for the other reasons I stated above.

I understand your points. But what has Tyler done to indicate he is a rebounder of NBA quality or a defender of NBA quality? Not bashing him at all. His best bet would be to prove he can be that at the college level, then take it to the NBA.
 
I just read that Whitey signed a $500k/year contract. https://www.nbcsports.com/washingto...n-team-2-year-deal-bypasses-wizards-training-
So he wasn't making chump change. And I read another article where he got an even better offer after that contract expired. Fi d that o e yourself.

I doubt that Cook thinks he is leaving early for Europe. But if he ends up there, it's not the end of the world for him. He has unique talents that they will pay for.

You're somehow missing the point.

No one is arguing that Europe isn't good money on a yearly basis. But it's a short window, you're still going to have to work in the real world sooner than later.

It's a poor utilization of your opportunities in life to leave a free degree for a couple hundred k.

It doesn't make financial sense.
 
Once a Hawk, always a Hawk! That's how I'll remember Tyler Cook.
From the first time he stepped on the floor at Carver three years ago, to the last game against Rutgers, Cook, at least in my eyes, didn't improve one aspect of his game. If that's NBA worthy, or professional contract worthy then there's a lot of money foolishly thrown out the window.
If you can prove to me that Tyler's career at Iowa was better then Aaron White's then you have a lot of convincing of that to me and Aaron isn't in the NBA.
The most athletic player that Fran and his coaching staff has recruited to Iowa and he basically left with the same handles as he came to Iowa.
That's bad enough, but the real travesty of the whole three years is that if Fran does stay a Iowa, it will probably be another nine years before we see another athletic specimen(s) recruited to Iowa and that's just plain unacceptable.
 
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You're somehow missing the point.

No one is arguing that Europe isn't good money on a yearly basis. But it's a short window, you're still going to have to work in the real world sooner than later.

It's a poor utilization of your opportunities in life to leave a free degree for a couple hundred k.

It doesn't make financial sense.
Couple hundred k? From what I read/linked, Aaron was to make a couple of million dollars between his initial contract and the renewal. That was for the first 4 years. He was well on his way to security for his family if he's smart.
 
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You're somehow missing the point.

No one is arguing that Europe isn't good money on a yearly basis. But it's a short window, you're still going to have to work in the real world sooner than later.

It's a poor utilization of your opportunities in life to leave a free degree for a couple hundred k.

It doesn't make financial sense.

Wrong. It absolutely makes financial sense. If Cook can make a million over 5 years it is far more than most college grads make in 3 times that length. You are kidding yourself if you think TC will find an ultra lucrative job market with his Iowa degree.
 
He's not an elite rebounder or scorer mostly because of his hands. I don't know if he has small hands, poor grip strength, or a lack of focus in traffic, but whatever it is it seems to me that his hands are what will prevent him from playing in the NBA. He'll probably have a good European career, though.
 
You're somehow missing the point.

No one is arguing that Europe isn't good money on a yearly basis. But it's a short window, you're still going to have to work in the real world sooner than later.

It's a poor utilization of your opportunities in life to leave a free degree for a couple hundred k.

It doesn't make financial sense.

How much would it cost him to finish his last year in school? Compared to an extra year of making $100k+ , he only has so many years to make money as an athlete.
 
He can always come back and spend $15k or whatever to get his degree. He only has so much time to make money playing ball.
 
Wrong. It absolutely makes financial sense. If Cook can make a million over 5 years it is far more than most college grads make in 3 times that length. You are kidding yourself if you think TC will find an ultra lucrative job market with his Iowa degree.

Never said anything about lucrative but without it he likely has no skills.

You're talking about 1 more year at this point after already investing 3 years. 5 is an irrelevant number. The number 1 year of waiting vs 1 year of earning.

Theres a good chance hes going to spend the first couple years in the G league anyway.

For under 50k per.

If he can get that 1 year NBA deal than it worked out but even that is likely increased in odds by getting better for another year and getting drafted higher.
 
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I don’t know what a guy playing in some of the Euro leagues earns but I’m guessing it is only around $150,000 per year. Maybe some make double that. There are many posters here that still earn more.
I would love to make $150,000 a year.
 
If you honestly don't think he improved at all while at Iowa then I don't know what to say. I'm not sure what you've been watching for the past 3 years...

Please show me from his yearly stats that indicate one aspect of his game that improved from his freshmen year to his junior year.... I'm all ears! Yes, he aged, but experience evidently didn't translate to being a better basketball player.
Now the tweet said he wasn't coming back to Iowa. He hasn't redshirted yet so there could be a transfer to another university in the offing instead of turning pro...
 
Please show me from his yearly stats that indicate one aspect of his game that improved from his freshmen year to his junior year.... I'm all ears! Yes, he aged, but experience evidently didn't translate to being a better basketball player.
Now the tweet said he wasn't coming back to Iowa. He hasn't redshirted yet so there could be a transfer to another university in the offing instead of turning pro...

I'm with you, i don't think has improved much at all and some games this year he looked worse than he ever has. I have nothing against Tyler but I won't lose any sleep if he doesn't come back and it's sounding like he probably isn't.
 
The two things he did very good on the basketball court is dunk, and set screens. I'm guessing that Nunge, Pemsl, Wieskamp, Garza, Kriener, and PMac can fill the void in those areas nicely.
Cook was neither a shot blocker, a dynamic rebounder, a prolific free throw shooter, a player that could knock down a mid range jump shot, nor was he a great defender.
I think I've pretty much summed up Tyler Cooks entire 3 years at Iowa.
We were all in "awe" of his jaw dropping dunks and athletic ability but he could not improve in the other areas of the game that set's the elite athlete apart from the above average athlete.
Not sure if it was because the coaching staff failed him or he was just unable to improve by working on his game. Not calling him lazy, because I'm sure he worked his tail off in and out of basketball season. Once a Hawk, always a Hawk!
 
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If the goal is to start making money then I think he made the right choice. If the goal is to make the NBA, then he should’ve stayed at Iowa, where the exposure is higher. I think making it to the league from overseas will be tough, gonna have to make, and excel in, the G League
 
Please show me from his yearly stats that indicate one aspect of his game that improved from his freshmen year to his junior year.... I'm all ears! Yes, he aged, but experience evidently didn't translate to being a better basketball player.
Now the tweet said he wasn't coming back to Iowa. He hasn't redshirted yet so there could be a transfer to another university in the offing instead of turning pro...

Cook's career stats (from freshman through junior years)

Pts
12.3, 15.3, 14.9

FG%
56%, 58%, 52%

FT%
59%, 66, 61

Rebounds
5.3, 6.8, 7.6

Assists
1.0, 1.8, 2.4

There's pretty clear progression, but he didn't play very well the last part of his junior season.
 
Cook's career stats (from freshman through junior years)

Pts
12.3, 15.3, 14.9

FG%
56%, 58%, 52%

FT%
59%, 66, 61

Rebounds
5.3, 6.8, 7.6

Assists
1.0, 1.8, 2.4

There's pretty clear progression, but he didn't play very well the last part of his junior season.

Clear progression on rebounds and assists, regression on points, FG% (as he tried to shoot from outside) and FT%. He really needs some more low post moves and to shoot 70% from the line.
 
Sounds like there will be a shitload of disappointed lounge members if Tyler has success as a pro.
 
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Sounds like there will be a shitload of disappointed lounge members if Tyler has success as a pro.

Hardly, if he succeeds at the pro level, good for him. Iowa got 1 more year out of him then we expected from him. Players come and go and Tyler is no exception.
Next man in!
 
And Gatens did it for about 3 years, and then came back and got to work in the real world......with a degree.

Making Europe money for 10 or so years doesn't mean much when you have bill's to pay your whole life.

It's great experience as long as you have something to do when you get back. That's why no one with a brain leaves early for Europe.

At 10 years, Aaron White will have made around $6,000,000 dollars playing a game which I’m sure he loves playing. So let’s pretend White is done playing at 34 years old, he’ll still have plenty of opportunities in basketball if that’s what he chooses in the US or Russia.

I’m pretty sure every one of us would trade places with him in a second. Now Cook is not Aaron White, but even still, Cook has a great chance to make a nice living playing a game.

I do hope Cook sticks around and plays his senior year. Even if he doesn’t, he can always get his degree at any point in the future.
 
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