Cook

[mazda1]

I would think Tyler would be in a better position to leverage an Iowa degree as a 4 year starter. 3 years no degree makes it more difficult for an organization to create a spot for a former Hawkeye.

Whitey and Gatens will be able use their Iowa connections the rest of their working careers. That opportunity may be difficult for anyone who leaves early w/o a degree regardless of their bb accomplishments.

It’s Tyler’s life and I wish him the best. I just hope he gets honest feedback and good advice from those that are in his ear.

 

[anon_bb9wlf9kj42py]

The G league isnt the scarlet letter it used to be. Many NBA players spend some time in the G league.

Iowa State has 5 players on NBA contracts. I doubt you’d find one person on this board (and very few on Iowa State boards) that thought it was possible for any of them. You just never know.

 

[EvilMonkeyInTheCloset]

The G league isnt the scarlet letter it used to be. Many NBA players spend some time in the G league.

Iowa State has 5 players on NBA contracts. I doubt you’d find one person on this board (and very few on Iowa State boards) that thought it was possible for any of them. You just never know.

G League (and D League) is a farm league for the NBA, somewhat similar to how the MLB rotates guys in AAA ball.

 

[HawkOn15]

G League (and D League) is a farm league for the NBA, somewhat similar to how the MLB rotates guys in AAA ball.

At the beginning of the nba season 40% of the guys on NBA rosters spent time in the G league and that number is going to grow

 

[HawkAssassin]

I just read that Whitey signed a $500k/year contract. https://www.nbcsports.com/washingto...n-team-2-year-deal-bypasses-wizards-training-
So he wasn't making chump change. And I read another article where he got an even better offer after that contract expired. Fi d that o e yourself.

I doubt that Cook thinks he is leaving early for Europe. But if he ends up there, it's not the end of the world for him. He has unique talents that they will pay for.

This probably isn’t the best example for you to use. The link doesn’t work but since Russian is in the URL I assume it’s referring to his deal with Zenit St Petersburg. Zenit is owned by Gazprom and have cash to spend. They’ve used it to attract big names for their soccer club.

There aren’t many basketball teams in Europe that have their level of money. The ones that do are teams like Barcelona or Real Madrid that are connected with huge cash cows in soccer. There is no guarantee that Tyler will end up on a team like that. Those teams are looking to compete for EuroLeague titles and want the best available.

 

[The Governator]

I'll start this off by admitting I am ignorant when it comes to overseas basketball. Would his game translate, or are they built more on finesse/shooting? If it were the latter, then it's not such a slam dunk decision to leave school.

Seeing the average salary of the G-League being $35k, it's not really a hard choice. He could get free housing, meals, out of state tuition (finish his degree) and a stipend all tax free. Or he could make $35k, pay taxes on that, pay for his own meals, housing, and not get a stipend.

If his game does translate, go get paid. Just don't think it'll be by the Association.

 

[hawkeyeguy69]

If Tyler does leave I would guess Kriener steps in as a starter. I don't think that would be a bad thing.

Nunge

 

[BBHawk]

This probably isn’t the best example for you to use. The link doesn’t work but since Russian is in the URL I assume it’s referring to his deal with Zenit St Petersburg. Zenit is owned by Gazprom and have cash to spend. They’ve used it to attract big names for their soccer club.

There aren’t many basketball teams in Europe that have their level of money. The ones that do are teams like Barcelona or Real Madrid that are connected with huge cash cows in soccer. There is no guarantee that Tyler will end up on a team like that. Those teams are looking to compete for EuroLeague titles and want the best available.

The link is to NBC Sports. Not exactly a Russian business

 

[TheRealHerky]

I wish Tyler well and hope he just kills it wherever he lands. I'm sure there are going to be some highlights we see next year that make us wish he was back for his Senior season. But Hawkeye Basketball will be just fine without him. He was an incredible athlete , a good teammate and repped the program well. Good luck TC!

 

[Pepperman]

If the goal is to start making money then I think he made the right choice. If the goal is to make the NBA, then he should’ve stayed at Iowa, where the exposure is higher. I think making it to the league from overseas will be tough, gonna have to make, and excel in, the G League

He will never play in the NBA. I am not saying you think he will, but there are so many idiots in our fan base saying "well, if he scratches out a few years in the G-League and gets to the NBA..."

He's European bound if anything.

He's also been getting horrible advice (or no advice) for at least 12 months now. Two awful decisions in April two years in a row.

 

[hawkjt]

Disagree.everybody who gets the chance for the NBA assessment takes it nowadays. Tyler did the right thing, just like Garza might this year.

 

[icantfindausernamethatisntused]

You're somehow missing the point.

No one is arguing that Europe isn't good money on a yearly basis. But it's a short window, you're still going to have to work in the real world sooner than later.

It's a poor utilization of your opportunities in life to leave a free degree for a couple hundred k.

It doesn't make financial sense.

What dollar value do you assign to one more year of college for Cook?

Just based on tuition, room and board, and meal plans, it's probably worth ~$40k - $50k. If he can instead make >$100k in Europe next year (even assuming he doesn't land an NBA gig), not sure there's a slam dunk argument that he should stay an extra year.

Is having a degree important? Yes, but it's less important without actual experience (which he's not going to get so long as he's playing basketball), and he can still obtain his degree once his playing days are over. I have no idea what Cook's major is, or what he wants to do after basketball. If he wants to get a job in the sciences, engineering, accounting, finance fields, etc. it may make more sense to finish up his degree. But if he has a generic degree and just wants to coach and/or teach basketball camps once he's done playing, then having a degree doesn't matter as much.

 

[FranklinHawk]

He will never play in the NBA. I am not saying you think he will, but there are so many idiots in our fan base saying "well, if he scratches out a few years in the G-League and gets to the NBA..."

He's European bound if anything.

He's also been getting horrible advice (or no advice) for at least 12 months now. Two awful decisions in April two years in a row.

Completely disagree with your last statement. With the rules the way they are now, any college player with NBA aspirations would be a fool not to declare and get actual NBA feedback so long as they do it within the boundaries of being able to return to school. It's absolutely a no lose situation if you take off the fan blinders.

 

[unoHawkeye]

Completely disagree with your last statement. With the rules the way they are now, any college player with NBA aspirations would be a fool not to declare and get actual NBA feedback so long as they do it within the boundaries of being able to return to school. It's absolutely a no lose situation if you take off the fan blinders.

Getting the feedback makes sense for anybody, but I feel like TC has been prepared to leave Iowa in each of the past two seasons, and only because he had zero chance at being drafted last year did he come back.

 

[Pepperman]

Completely disagree with your last statement. With the rules the way they are now, any college player with NBA aspirations would be a fool not to declare and get actual NBA feedback so long as they do it within the boundaries of being able to return to school. It's absolutely a no lose situation if you take off the fan blinders.

Here's why I make the statement that he's either getting horrible advice or no advice:

1) Last year it was a joke for him to think he could get drafted, and I said this at the time. Most honest Hawk fans knew this as well. Ridiculous for him to even go ask the questions - he either doesn't have a coach that can tell him the truth or he doesn't listen.

2) Here we are again - he has no chance at the NBA and now he's apparently told at least one reporter if not two that he's finished with Iowa. So that's pretty silly to me given he has no better options, but that's up to him. He's either getting terrible advice or no advice at all.

Now, won't it just be peachy when 2 months from now he comes out and announces he's coming back for his senior year? Many here will cheer the news, but unless he drastically changes how he plays, his presence on the court is many times disruptive. He can sure throw a dunk down though and make mean faces at the cameras.

 

[unoHawkeye]

Now, won't it just be peachy when 2 months from now he comes out and announces he's coming back for his senior year? Many here will cheer the news, but unless he drastically changes how he plays, his presence on the court is many times disruptive. He can sure throw a dunk down though and make mean faces at the cameras.

I think a light flipped on during the Tennessee game, and if he comes back, he’ll have a really solid senior year

 

[Pepperman]

I think a light flipped on during the Tennessee game, and if he comes back, he’ll have a really solid senior year

I don't know that I see it. His stat line for that whole game wasn't that great. He just made all of his best plays in about a 6 minute time frame.

37 minutes
4-12 shooting
3-6 FT shooting
2 total rebounds (in 37 minutes?)
2 assists
3 turnovers
4 fouls
11 points

 

[ObeseMuffins]

Maybe he was just tired of Iowa City's bullsh*t.

 

[anon_qczsdwtnv6esw]

If he can land a professional job(G league, European league, in China...where ever), why wouldn't he pursue the opportunity now? He's a kid from St. Louis who has a chance to make some money for himself and perhaps help his family out for the next several years. Adding another year of college basketball is not going to help him at all in the eyes of NBA scouts. If anything, its looked at more negatively than positively these days. When the NBA draft happens this year, look at how many juniors/seniors are taken in the first 12 spots. I doubt there will be too many. I understand everyone who would like to see any student finish and get their degree but how is that degree going to help him land a job paying the money anywhere near a G league salary would pay him? The trend seems to be lately 'One and Dones get drafted high and get a shot on an NBA team the first year. Everyone else gets a shot at a G league team where they will most likely spend most of their career but still are getting paid'.

 

[unoHawkeye]

I don't know that I see it. His stat line for that whole game wasn't that great. He just made all of his best plays in about a 6 minute time frame.

37 minutes
4-12 shooting
3-6 FT shooting
2 total rebounds (in 37 minutes?)
2 assists
3 turnovers
4 fouls
11 points

Yeah his first half was miserable. He was an entirely different player in the second half though and, despite the deficit, played some of the better ball I saw him play this year against one of the better players nationally. Hope TC comes back... he’d have momentum and the benefit of it being his senior year with a lot to prove

 

[RocknRollface]

How much would it cost him to finish his last year in school? Compared to an extra year of making $100k+ , he only has so many years to make money as an athlete.

So in theory you're coming out maybe 50-60k ahead in the long run after tuition if you go back, get a degree and a job. Sounds iffy but maybe it works.

But you also run the risk of getting injured immediately and getting little to no money.

Plus increasing the odds of being drafted higher by getting better after 1 more year.

 

[billshawks]

I could definitely see him entering the draft without an agent. I'd be shocked if he hired an agent and gave up his eligibility.

Eligible underclassmen can to enter the NBA draft and return to the school if undrafted, and after rule changes made in August 2018, prospects can also now be represented by NBPA-certified agents as long as they request an evaluation from the NBA Undergraduate Advisory Committee.

Minnesota's Amir Coffey is going that route it appears as well. So they now can have agent representation. Go thru the entire process and draft and still return to school.

As they should be able to.

 

[TheCDiggity]

I'll start this off by admitting I am ignorant when it comes to overseas basketball. Would his game translate, or are they built more on finesse/shooting? If it were the latter, then it's not such a slam dunk decision to leave school.

Seeing the average salary of the G-League being $35k, it's not really a hard choice. He could get free housing, meals, out of state tuition (finish his degree) and a stipend all tax free. Or he could make $35k, pay taxes on that, pay for his own meals, housing, and not get a stipend.

If his game does translate, go get paid. Just don't think it'll be by the Association.

The fans over there are in love with whites dunking ability

 

[The Governator]

The fans over there are in love with whites dunking ability

Can't say I blame them. I was too when he was here.