Ever thought "their board" and a recruiting sites ratings might be different..?,.they have been recruiting Eno for quite awhile...prolly a reason for that.....
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Yup. It sure sounds like logistics is the reason. Especially with Calloway's parents since it sounds like the coaches need to pull out all the stops to impress them. Arriving just before kickoff with little sleep and then not being able to see them until Sat afternoon won't be the best impression.
The offers made to those guys were made around the time of eno. If an offer was extended to higher rated recruits I have to believe the players were fairly high on the Hawks board also. At this point we are just 2 Joe's going back and forth about something we have no control over. If your happy with iowa recruiting good for you I on the other hand think this staffs recruiting efforts are one step above horrid.
Your point certainly makes sense and is what I have been arguing all along. But with all due respect, isn't Rivals (and the premium board for that matter) one of those 'recruiting sites' that could be giving a very different view of recruiting than what the reality is?
After all, when money is necessary to get information, sometimes that information is given an appearance to be more valuable than it really is.
To come to the conclusions they are, you have to have specific answers. You can't just ask the coaches, "Are you looking to recruit other RB's in this class?" and come to the conclusion that the coaches are upset about Eno taking other visits, tell him to not take other visits, and are questioning that he will sign with Iowa in February.
Coaches are not even allowed to comment on specific recruits. So either A) Coaches are committing recruiting violations, or B) This is pure speculation based on being told Iowa is looking at some other RBs.
Little update on Hankins...he is scheduled to take an official visit to Michigan this weekend.
He spoke with our Rivals Texas guy last night and Blair isn't upset about anything regarding Eno. He's simply doing solid reporting here, like he has for the past decade. I'll put his work up against anyone covering Iowa recruiting during that time frame.
Seems pretty hypocritical of our staff to have their rigid stance on commits taking, or not taking other visits after committing, when our coaches actively pursue guys who are committed elsewhere and try getting them to visit I.C.
Yes you can and it's pretty simple.
Here is a hypothetical conversation between a reporter and a coach discussing Eno's situation without committing a violation yet answering all the questions situation.
Reporter: "Hey Coach, what's the deal with Eno? He took a couple visits. What is his commitment status?
Coach: "As you know, we can't comment about a specific recruit until they sign..."
Then
Coach: "Our 2017 class is full at RB. We have a couple guys committed that we are really excited about and have good relationships with. If a recruit wants to take a visit to another school, we will work through that with them if they talk to us beforehand."
Translation: We talked to Eno about his visits and we're cool with it. We feel very confident he will sign in February. Because of this we aren't recruiting RBs at this time.
OR
Coach: "When a recruit takes a visit without our knowledge, it damages the relationship that we've built with that recruit and we need to find out where we stand. Communication is very important in recruiting and is a two way street. We need to work on rebuilding trust with a recruit when that situation happens. We are actively recruiting the RB position for the 2017 class to try to shore up that last RB slot in this class."
Translation: We found out that Eno took secret visits to a couple school and we're not happy about it. We need to shore up his commitment. Since we're not sure how committed he is to us, we are going to actively recruit the RB position. If Eno doesn't sign with us we need to have other options at the RB spot.
It is pretty easy for a coach to answer a question about a specific recruit without committing a recruiting violation. Just like when the coaches tweet out "Great news out of Dallas tonight!" when Eno committed to the Hawkeyes. Everyone knew that the coach was talking about Eno, but he never mentioned a specific recruit, therefore, it is not a violation.
or, who definitely knows how many RBs the staff is looking at. Afterall, they can't discuss recruiting publically, and what reporter or blogger has access to the big board in the coaching staff's meeting room?
Okay, fine. Everything Tom and Blair put on this site is false because they can't possibly know anything.
Now that we've got that out of the way, ever think that the coaches could tell a recruit, "We're taking 2 RBs this year, we have 1 spot left, and we have offers out to you and another RB. First one to commit gets the spot then we're done recruiting RBs."
There are lots of ways for recruiting info to get out. Especially since everyone has a phone with social media. The staff can absolutely come out and say, "We plan on taking 2 RBs this year." KF has said multiple times that they like to have 1 QB in every class. That is not a recruiting violation.
Your scenario with the rb's has already played out at Iowa...Iowa told James White and DeAndre Johnson- first come,first served...Iowa ended up wuth Johnson and Wisky signed White...Okay, fine. Everything Tom and Blair put on this site is false because they can't possibly know anything.
Now that we've got that out of the way, ever think that the coaches could tell a recruit, "We're taking 2 RBs this year, we have 1 spot left, and we have offers out to you and another RB. First one to commit gets the spot then we're done recruiting RBs."
There are lots of ways for recruiting info to get out. Especially since everyone has a phone with social media. The staff can absolutely come out and say, "We plan on taking 2 RBs this year." KF has said multiple times that they like to have 1 QB in every class. That is not a recruiting violation.
It happened with QB's as well. Iowa told the same thing to Davis Webb and Nic Shimonek.. Iowa gets Shimonek and Webb goes to Texas Tech....Fast forward a couple of years...Shimonek is at TT and Webb is at Cal.
That's impossible! How can you know for sure that's how it went down? Coaches can't discuss recruits! Recruiting violation! (Heavy Sarcasm)
*Edit: Sarcasm aside the whole Shimonek/Webb situation is awesome.
I'm surprised no one has mentioned his tweet he put up yesterday about mind being made up long ago and not changing it.
Okay, fine. Everything Tom and Blair put on this site is false because they can't possibly know anything.
Now that we've got that out of the way, ever think that the coaches could tell a recruit, "We're taking 2 RBs this year, we have 1 spot left, and we have offers out to you and another RB. First one to commit gets the spot then we're done recruiting RBs."
There are lots of ways for recruiting info to get out. Especially since everyone has a phone with social media. The staff can absolutely come out and say, "We plan on taking 2 RBs this year." KF has said multiple times that they like to have 1 QB in every class. That is not a recruiting violation.
of course there is lots of ways for information to get out. You're missing the point that perhaps there is another scenario. Sure, there are targeted numbers, sure they would 'like' to do get this number or that number, but they don't let those numbers rule the day. what a kid plays in HS doesn't always equate to what they play in college.Too many expect absolutes, and take everything literally. However, particularly surrounding recruiting and in this medium, its based upon innuendo, and partial information...yes, even for those we deem credible.
Okay, fine. Everything Tom and Blair put on this site is false because they can't possibly know anything.
Now that we've got that out of the way, ever think that the coaches could tell a recruit, "We're taking 2 RBs this year, we have 1 spot left, and we have offers out to you and another RB. First one to commit gets the spot then we're done recruiting RBs."
There are lots of ways for recruiting info to get out. Especially since everyone has a phone with social media. The staff can absolutely come out and say, "We plan on taking 2 RBs this year." KF has said multiple times that they like to have 1 QB in every class. That is not a recruiting violation.
No one said they were lying. Your scenarios are a stretch at best.
Everything regarding committed or uncommitted recruits put out by Blair and Tom is pure speculation unless they get information from the recruit himself.
You are trying to pass it off as fact. It's not fact and pure speculation.
No one?
Blair stated everything you said he couldn't possibly have known. So according to you, he is lying.
I would go even farther and put Blair's work up against anyone in the recruiting biz all over the country (not just Iowa). His professionalism and thoroughness is second to none in the college football recruiting game. Thanks Blair!
You are completely clueless. Getting the kids out of Texas is extremely impressive. You can turn around in a circle down there and head in any direction to a D1 college. Some of the best small college football in the country is in the state of Texas. You (who has literally no earthly idea) questions the "staffs recruiting efforts" ?? Typical
Nobody is doubting Blair, it's the fact that rumors started running rampant, and neither Tom nor Blair did anything to squash those rumors. Finish the reporting!
Eno was less than 50/50, and Eno wasn't coming this weekend due to coaches being unhappy. They could and should have squashed those.
They said Eno's visit was going to be rescheduled regardless of game time and the coaches were/are unhappy with him taking secret visits. I remember when Fant was taking other visits last season it sure felt like he was less than 50/50 that he would be a Hawk.
Haha, I chuckled.
I was wondering which ones he was specifically talking about because Blair did a very good job addressing things very quickly over the last week or two.
This thread and others bashing the coaches could have been better handled. But it's par for the course on this board.
Sorry, just couldn't resist. Sometimes I should probably restrain impulsivity but this one was too easy.
You look kinda stupid right about now. lol
Looks like we can no longer believe what you say. When will you fools learn. lol
Wow, you look soooooo bad right about now. I love it when you know it all's get proved wrong !
How? What just transpired is not what anyone, Blair/Rob reported last week. Nobody said Iowa pulled his offer last week, all the speculation was that Eno wasn't coming for his visit because the timing of the game changed, not because Iowa pulled the offer.
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