That's an opinion though.I agree. Just pointing out that Jay isn’t tweeting that for the right reasons.
That's an opinion though.I agree. Just pointing out that Jay isn’t tweeting that for the right reasons.
Gilman, Jay, Brent, and DSJ…. Plenty of backstories there and enough blame to spread to both sides. And I really do think the Gilman rift is as bad most want to believe. Very fair question though.I don't try to run down the program. I want them to catch PSU and call it like I see it. Does Jay have a history of this? Never seen anything before.
And answer this, what does it say that so many former hawks love to "run down the program?" Seems like the guys who wrestled 5 years under Tom might have some good perspective on the short comings. Is there another team with so much animus from its former athletes? Doesn't exactly help recruiting.
This is suggesting that Jay, or anyone else, criticizing the program must respect Tom. Those things aren’t mutually exclusive and I don’t see Jay suggesting he is coming from a pro-regime place.I agree. Just pointing out that Jay isn’t tweeting that for the right reasons.
It’s not really my opinion. It is the opinion of a few of his former teammates though.That's an opinion though.
Critical and delusional are two separate things.Gotta agree...have read Gobblin for years, but you are off the mark on this one. This is in fact an Iowa wrestling board for Iowa fans to talk the program, both good and bad.
Everyone who gets a little red ass when someone is critical about any of the coaches or wrestlers needs to remember that. If you still can't handle it, then you might want to evaluate participating on the boards at all.
Is the divide between PSU and Iowa getting better or worse?Critical and delusional are two separate things.
For who?Is the divide between PSU and Iowa getting better or worse?
It’s question…. Are you asking if PSU is pulling farther away or if we’re gaining on them?Is this an honest answer?
PSU and Iowa aren't even a conversation at this point and in the future at the current pace. Would you agree or no?It’s question…. Are you asking if PSU is pulling farther away or if we’re gaining on them?
Yes. I’d say we’re stagnant. Clear 2nd best program in the country.PSU and Iowa aren't even a conversation at this point and in the future at the current pace. Would you agree or no?
Changes need to be made then, right?Yes. I’d say we’re stagnant. Clear 2nd best program in the country.
I’ve already covered this. Recruiting philosophy…. And it’s already been addressed and will continue to be. I’d also like to get Nolf in the HWC.Changes need to be made then, right?
BS. Who do you think you are fooling? What are the recruiting changes?I’ve already covered this. Recruiting philosophy…. And it’s already been addressed and will continue to be. I’d also like to get Nolf in the HWC.
Can't agree, Dub. Wrong message. Wrong time. Wrong messenger. Comes off like sour grapes.Jay’s tweet looks like a frustrated attempt to spark dialogue about something there’s really no good time to discuss.
I agree with wrong time.Can't agree, Dub. Wrong message. Wrong time. Wrong messenger. Comes off like sour grapes.
Hire Kyle Dake and David Taylor tomorrow. Happy now?BS. Who do you think you are fooling? What are the recruiting changes?
But is the Iowa program doing that? Is this just a wish? Outside of hiring Dake and Taylor what REALISTIC thing can be accomplished?Hire Kyle Dake and David Taylor tomorrow. Happy now?
I would be very happyHire Kyle Dake and David Taylor tomorrow. Happy now?
Please.Hire Kyle Dake and David Taylor tomorrow. Happy now?
Kyle Snyder and Thomas Gilman?But is the Iowa program doing that? Is this just a wish? Outside of hiring Dake and Taylor what REALISTIC thing can be accomplished?
Casey Cunningham is coming with bugs bunny.carl only got 2 champs he is coming to iowa
Jay spent a career in that room. He has that right, imo.Can't agree, Dub. Wrong message. Wrong time. Wrong messenger. Comes off like sour grapes.
I will assume you will run away for the rest of the night.Casey Cunningham is coming with bugs bunny.
No NCAA champions.Casey Cunningham is coming with bugs bunny.
Grow up.Can these two smelly midgets already! How many times are we gonna watch runner up performances ?!!? If Spencer leaves cuz of it then oh well, his body aint got much longer anyway! Hire DT or poach from Caels staff and lets get some champs put out there !
Any personal worth Gobblin has comes from being an insider in the Brands crew and he also serves as the spokesman for the group of insiders that call him from Tulsa. He has a lot to lose with a regime change so he’s a bit biased.No NCAA champions.
And?Any personal worth Gobblin has comes from being an insider in the Brands crew and he also serves as the spokesman for the group of insiders that call him from Tulsa. He has a lot to lose with a regime change so he’s a bit biased.
Just because you may have a right to do something, doesn't mean that you should. Whether he's right or wrong, imo, this is an example of poor judgement.Jay spent a career in that room. He has that right, imo.
He doesn’t see any problems with the current situationAnd?
Im. Ot sure you can argue that the Hawks are the clear 2nd best program… especially when 1st place finished 40 pts ahead and 3rd is a few point back.Yes. I’d say we’re stagnant. Clear 2nd best program in the country.