Used to Kirk choosing offense for the sole purpose of getting field position advantage with first possession. Not necessarily to score. I don’t know why this game would be any different, and no factors to change that IE wind.
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Did this happen in an Iowa vs. Illinois game a few years back? Essentially, a team capt. has to mess up and say "kick" vs. "defer" correct?If I win the toss and choose to kick, I don’t get the ball to start the 2nd half unless the other team chooses to kick in the 2nd….which they won’t. If I use my pick and don’t defer, the other team gets to choose coming out of half.
I’m good with Iowa starting on D first, but that’s why I’d defer. If Michigan chooses to kick then, I get the ball to start both halves….and again, they won’t, because Harbaugh isn’t stupid.
The fact that you actually have to explain this to people...😳I knew how it works, I guess I worded it wrong in that no one EVER does that so talking about the possibility of it is pointless.
Like I said. Deferring has no impact on the number of offensive possessions. Only an idiot would actually choose to kick off in the second half. And yes, I'm aware that Iowa did this in a game several years ago.That's wrong.
"Deferring" to the second half simply means that you are deferring the decision to kick/receive until the start of the second half. You are then forcing your opponent to choose kick/receive to start the game. If the opponent chooses to kick off to start the game (Iowa gets the ball), that does not mean that, by deferring, Iowa has to kick off to start the second half. Iowa could (and would) choose to receive the ball to start the second half.
I'm not sure whether this was a mistake or not, but yeah, somehow Iowa kicked off to start the 1st AND second half thereby forgoing a possession. I've watched a lot of football and that was the only time I've seen that happen. One would think it HAD to be a mistake, but knowing Kirk.....Did this happen in an Iowa vs. Illinois game a few years back? Essentially, a team capt. has to mess up and say "kick" vs. "defer" correct?
If I'm up by only one or two TDs of a game at halftime and received the kickoff to begin the game, I will actually choose to kick INTO the wind in the 3rd quarter. Even though I may be sacrificing 15-20 yards of field position on my opponent's first drive, they often want to try and establish/reestablish the run coming out of halftime. I don't want my opponent to have the ball WITH the wind late in the game if things stay tight.Exactly. In the 2nd half, I’ve seen teams choose field end based on wind, but that‘s only in extreme situations and I’m not sure I’ve ever seen it done in the first half.
I was only trying to be funnyNot how it works. You're kicking off to start the game or the second half. Deciding to defer or not has nothing to do with how many possessions you end up with.
I knew how it works, I guess I worded it wrong in that no one EVER does that so talking about the possibility of it is pointless.
Deferring has no impact on the number of offensive possessions.
That could be, I don’t recall. Most often, if you see it, it’s because someone screwed up.Did this happen in an Iowa vs. Illinois game a few years back? Essentially, a team capt. has to mess up and say "kick" vs. "defer" correct?
Playing d and deferring are the same thing as no one ever says I'll kick and give the opponent the ball first both halves. I know the rule, but it should literally not exist. The coin toss winner should have 2 choices - receive or kick and get ball the 2nd half. The defer option is dumb.The thread is titled: Hawks win the toss...take ball, defer or play D?
The OP raises the question of what Iowa should do if it wins the toss and identifies three options: (1) take ball; (2) defer or (3) play D. He then answers the question with "I'd send in the D right away if I had a preference." Thus, his answer is choice #3.
That is what people are responding to.
Perhaps, but believe it or not there are some on here who seem to believe it's true 😳I was only trying to be funny