Illini Fans Are Stirring The Pot
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Kind of amazed this story has gotten the traction it has. I have to laugh at anyone who thinks this this tarnishes the reputation of Illinois, The Krush, Iowa, or Barta; people will absolutely forget about this by Sunday.
I simply don't care; let them in or take their tickets, refund their money or give it back...any decision is fine by me. It's not some major egregious act on their part imo, a bad look sure, but meh....college kids doing college kid things.
On the other side, I can see why Iowa isn't going to give them their tickets. The university is running a business and you acted in bad faith in impersonating a charitable group; you can't be too surprised when they invalidated the tickets when they learned what you did.
I simply don't care; let them in or take their tickets, refund their money or give it back...any decision is fine by me. It's not some major egregious act on their part imo, a bad look sure, but meh....college kids doing college kid things.
On the other side, I can see why Iowa isn't going to give them their tickets. The university is running a business and you acted in bad faith in impersonating a charitable group; you can't be too surprised when they invalidated the tickets when they learned what you did.
I don’t believe the 2 million $ figure either. $20,000 a year for 20 years, doesn’t add up.
Orange Krush Foundation Awards Annual Charitable Grants - University of Illinois Athletics
The Orange Krush Foundation has awarded more than $20,000 to local philanthropic organizations.fightingillini.com
also, the krush bought tickets under the standard discounted group rates. There was no discount related to them being a charitable organization.
Why did they use the Boys & Girls Club name if there was no discount for being a charitable organization? Why didn’t they get permission from the B&G club before using their name?
Call the number, see if you can get 200 discounted tickets as a regular Joe. You realize they ask questions, like what group you are part of in order to apply discounts right? Again, they said boys and girls home and got the discount. He could have said no group, and gotten the 200 tickets at regular price.Ticket Office Policies
hawkeyesports.com
”Group Prices: Discounted tickets for groups of 20 or more available for select games. Contact the Iowa Ticketing Group Sales coordinator at group-sales@hawkeyesports.com or call 1-800-IA-Hawks.”
You really need to stop posting. You have already shown you have no morals or know anything really relevant.
PS Don't get to worked up. You may post something in another thread I agree with and will like. It's just in this thread you have shown a complete lack of integrity.
The guy on the video said it. Iowa wouldn’t sell the krush tickets in the past. They want to keep opposing fans out.
Group Prices: Discounted tickets for groups of 20 or more available for select games.Ticket Office Policies
”Group Prices: Discounted tickets for groups of 20 or more available for select games. Contact the Iowa Ticketing Group Sales coordinator at group-sales@hawkeyesports.com or call 1-800-IA-Hawks.”
They picked the second home saturday conference game for Iowa in 4 seasons. I highly highly doubt Iowa is just letting every group that inquires about buying tickets access to this game. They probably had a limited amount of group tickets for this and thought that a Boys & Girls Club would be a worthy group to get these.
The director of the Krush also was just on KXNO in Des Moines and did say that Iowa gave them a special discounted price due to the charity aspect. Iowa wasn't giving other non-charity groups a discount on bulk tickets to this game due to the high demand. Again, 2nd Saturday home conference game in 4 seasons here--this was always going to be sold out and a high demand ticket.
They don't have to say they are the "Krush". They could just say I want 200 tickets for everyone in my business to come and pay regular price. Also, who do they think they are surprising? Iowa fans around them don't give 2 shi**, and most probably don't even understand what these kids are doing. The lady in the ticket office doesn't care, she's not even going to the games. This whole "surprise" thing is just for the Illinois kids that do this and think it's awesome.
Obnoxious group of rich young adults lie about their identity, claiming to be a group of underprivileged children to gain admittance to basketball game in a block of 200 tickets.
A game they indeed could have all individually bought tickets for, and attended with no questions asked.
Yeah, them playing the victim; Illini fans, and Iowa fans with an axe to grind with AD defending them is pretty tough to have much sympathy for.
I’d say that agreeing they appear to be a bunch of A-holes is a best case scenario, and they should hope this just goes away.
Obviously nobody on this board is unbiased. I’m fairly confident in saying almost any unbiased party would say this Krush needs to take the L on this one.
Exactly, what I'm saying. I called with a party over 20 and they wouldn't give me discounted tickets. They don't just say "ok, you have more than 20, you get this discount". This guy is an idiot who has no idea what he's talking about.
I don’t know, but I know this. The best meal I have ever eaten came from Jimmy John’s. Just thinking about it is borderline erotic.
Especially the JJ's just next to his restaurant. I don't know why but the gabbagool and black forrest ham just hit different off N Dodge.
The longer this goes on the worse Illini fans look in my eyes. You lied. You got caught. You lied again. You got called out. Quit crying. GFY
It's got nothing to do with integrity. It's about objectivity and nuance. People here are acting like this group created major fraud because it's an opposing fanbase. That's a fanboy driven perspective. Yes, they lied about who they were, but they didn't collect money for a charity and then use it for something else like people are comparing it to. Nobody to the best of my knowledge was damaged financially or otherwise. The group misrepresented their identity so as not to be denied access to a group block of tickets. They paid what I assume was the group rate for the tickets. The ticket office found out, felt duped, and decided to cancel the purchase just as they likely would have had they known the identity ahead of time. Then as a PR move to make them look better they told everyone they were giving the tickets to the local boys and girls club. They could have just let things be but they didn't want this group at the game so they went this route instead. That's what really happened here.
If you have information that shows they paid less than they should have or that the intent was to cheat the university or that they haven't donated millions to charity over the years then provide it and I'll acknowledge it. Otherwise let's just stick to the facts here.
The director of the Krush was on KXNO tonight and admitted that the university gave them a discounted group rate due to the charity component--Iowa wasn't giving other non-charity groups discounted tickets to this game due to it being a premium Saturday game with high demand. The Krush director said that they didn't realize that they were given a different rate when the purchased the tickets, but when it was explained to them that they did get that, they agreed with Iowa's decision to cancel.
It’s one thing to lie and say you need group tickets for something like a family reunion. It’s pretty shameful though imo to claim to be the boys and girls club.
Why do you refuse to say: the group misrepresented their identity in order to get a discount so that they could pay less for the tickets.
What's this "cheat the university" strawman?
They wanted to save money.
And I don't think the U of Iowa would have refused to sell them the tickets, at regular price, just to keep Illinois fans out.
Give it a rest. You are defending liars. You can continue to say the same thing over and over, but the facts are they lied to get the tickets, they are NOT a charity (read my posts about 501c organizations). Iowa looks great in this. They found out about a bunch of kids who lied to the university and then gave those tickets to a real charity.
Like I have said. Anyone defending those kids shows me where your morals are. Defending a group of liars show your complete lack of integrity. But, I'm sure this wont stop you or the others defending them. My experience has shown you can't reason with people of low moral standards.
Most of your first paragraph is pure opinion and speculation, but “otherwise let’s just stick to the facts here.”
How do you know this? Do you work in the ticket office, because if you're correct, then there really is no justification for using a false identity.
I hope the Iowa team dunks on Illinois players as hard as the Krush and Illinois fans are getting dunked on today.
This shit is hilarious and regardless of what Krush reps say to try to justify things, they look terrible.
This shit is hilarious and regardless of what Krush reps say to try to justify things, they look terrible.
They can still go buy your tickets in a secondary market. Lesson don’t say your a non profit seeking tickets when your not associated with non profit and tickets were for students and not underprivileged children.
Even the Chicago news stations are commenting on how stupid of a move this was from the OrangeKrush. Oh well, it's just more fuel for the rivalry.
This...I can't believe how bad they are getting hammered. And, I am glad they got caught. But, they act like Iowa is the only school to try and limit the number of opposing fans that come to a home sporting event. Good grief, we (Iowa Fans) get hit all the time with different types of rules when we are going to an Iowa-Gophers game in Minn. They need to quit complaining. They do come up with some GREAT ideas though!!!
Not sure which game. but I do remember an Illini fan, as the the announcer introduced the singing of the national anthem and the crowd became totally silent, shouting out at the top of their lungs, FVCK IOWA! Paybacks a bitch, I approve...
I always appreciate our players speaking out before we play a team.
Makes me feel warm and fuzzy inside about our chances of winning................................and then I realize it's just because I pissed myself, and I wake up hung over to find that Iowa lost.
But yes, please keep posting stupid sh** on social media that in no way, shape, or form will come back to bite you in the ass Iowa players......both current AND former.
I have faith you'll back it up this time around even though you never do..................
They aren't the boys and girls club.
What did he say that needs “backing up?”I always appreciate our players speaking out before we play a team.
Makes me feel warm and fuzzy inside about our chances of winning................................and then I realize it's just because I pissed myself, and I wake up hung over to find that Iowa lost.
But yes, please keep posting stupid sh** on social media that in no way, shape, or form will come back to bite you in the ass Iowa players......both current AND former.
I have faith you'll back it up this time around even though you never do..................
It's simply sick. I have my opinions on wealth and privalege - this doesn't help.
They falsely represented themselves that allowed them to get the bulk or reduced prices. Even if the Krush were a 501C3 they would have had to purchase it under that. Considering they try to trick the ticket offices they most likely would have gone under an individuals name and not gone through as the 501c3. Iowa had every right to cancel the purchase. I guess it depends when Iowa became aware and when the response from these entities occurred. Right now you are grasping and straws to try to defend these kids. Iowa gave the tickets as a donation to a sister program of the one that was fraudulently used to purchase the tickets. Misrepresenting yourself is fraud. They did receive discounted tickets and admitted as much in the interview. It’s clear they have gotten a pretty good blow back based on the interview. Iowa would not have given discounted prices to a group of Illinois college kids. They likely only did it because they thought it was the boys and girls club.
