Illinois Dual Thread
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Epic loss by Warner but expected at this point. It's going to be a long long season with this team.
Cass working for the arm. Wrob just laying there. Another stall. 12-0. One more stall and it’s match termination.
Embarrassing, Assad and Brands have both beaten Braunagel.
I liked 25, 49, 65 and heavy, 4 out of 10 is not so good. Good thing I ate good tonight
Great job SL, MM, PK, TC. The other 60% of our lineup looked weak, uninterested, and tired.
Will be fun to see what combo of 1st, 2nd, and 3rd teamers the coaches roll out on Sunday!
Will be fun to see what combo of 1st, 2nd, and 3rd teamers the coaches roll out on Sunday!
End of 2. Cass chooses top. Cass has him flat. Wrob just laying there as Cass tries to get the arm out. Another stall and that’s a DQ for stalling. 25-19 Iowa.
Ironside: "Still a victory nonetheless for the Hawkeyes."
Thanks for the pbp. Hope it’s a flu bug and things look much different next week.
Tom Brands talks alot about scoring points, I don't think his wrestlers hear it aside from a few guys.
Fan appreciation night? No one told 33 41 57 74 84 and 97. Or TNT.
Hawks win 25-19. Split the matches 5-5 in this dual meet. Both backups lost and quite frankly looked bad doing it.
I imagine there will be some criticism on this thread the next few days. Gonna be some tough grades.
Forward to Purdue and hopefully a better showing.
I imagine there will be some criticism on this thread the next few days. Gonna be some tough grades.
Forward to Purdue and hopefully a better showing.
We are a shell of what an Iowa team is supposed to be.
I’m a big fan of Tom but that seems like more of a talking point anymore. It certainly doesn’t get translated to the mat.
Warner looks worse now than he did as a freshman. HEW? Would have expected a 2nd place finish last year to light a fire under his ass. Guess not.
Please tell me Warner is one of the guys with the flu in the room...only explanation for how a guy who's been in the program this long can make the same mistake over and over again, and show no sense of urgency or aggression. Gotten to the point where I really don't like watching him wrestle...unless he's someone he has completely overmatched, his offense dissapears.
i think this coaching staff is out of gas
That's basically been the last 4 years of watching him.
Brands interview: Blah, blah, gotta be better, get points, put best guys on mat, gotta get healthy, stay healthy, blah, blah.
Well I'm guessing we sit SL and PK at least, so I doubt whatever motley crew of a lineup the coaches roll out there will show much better.
is that 4 time all american warner you guys are talking about
Iowa needs to figure out a new position to score from other than the collar tie. It has clearly been scouted. Many of our guys don’t know what to do if they don’t get there or can’t create angles with snaps. Murin, Brands, Assad, and Warner. If they don’t get to the collar tie then they look for re-attacks and counters off their opponents shot. When the opponents don’t shoot, we don’t score. It’s been this way for a minute, tonight’s dual was the latest example.
I am under the belief they are on the downward slope of their careers.
I think they hear TNT it’s just hard to score ear to ear. Worked for TNT but it’s the only thing they coach. Heavy on head. Be stingy. They wrestle the way they’re coached. There offensive schemes are as poor as Brian Ferentz. 2 stubborn coaches that refuse to allow offensive schemes evolve. Refuse to change even in face of defeats.
This is Iowa wrestling unfortunately if you have paid attention the past several years.
Less flu bugs in my old peoples home than we have every year.
Iowa wrestling has become quite boring and predictable and the techniques the same.
Hence why at the end of the year psu usually beats Iowa guys. Not hard to scout the same move sequences
I notice Brands rarely shuts up during a match constantly micro coaching and Carl rarely says a thing.
Love him or hate him, Carl is the master of detail, game planning his wrestlers to the point of individual matches.
Look at RBY vs Desanto progression, Kem vs Carter, Kerk vs Cass.
Carl is on a different level.
Hate me for saying it.
It's true.
How the Brands wrestled worked for them but they were incredibly strong for their weights and had next level gas tanks not to mention the stalling rules were much more favorable back then. I loved their style but their style doesn't look as good when it's not them doing it.
To be fair if we had a team full of Spencer Lees like Penn State recruits he wouldn’t have to say much, either.
Carl has already game planned the match. Then they excecute.
I thought if we just wrestle our match and worry about how we wrestle it doesn't matter what the other guy does. 😉
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