In just 3 seasons: Cook 1 of 9 players in Program History to total more than 1,300 Pts & 600 Reb

[Franisdaman]

Source:https://www.hawkcentral.com/story/s...ing-his-three-year-college-career/3451084002/


Here is the current Iowa career scoring list (updated after completion of 2018-2019 season):

1 Roy Marble...2,116 (4 yrs: 1986-1989, 134 GP, .539 FG%,, 15.8 ppg; 26 three pt goals)

2 Aaron White...1,859 (4 yrs: 2012-2015, 140 GP, .517 FG%,, 13.3 ppg; 61 three pt goals)

3 Acie Earl...1,779 (4 yrs: 1990-1993, 116 GP, .508 FG%,, 15.3 ppg; 2 three pt goals)

4 Greg Stokes...1,768 (4 yrs: 1982-1985, 120 GP, .545 FG%,, 14.7 ppg)

5 BJ Armstrong...1,705 (4 yrs: 1986-1989, 130 GP, .492 FG%,, 13.1 ppg; 136 three pt goals)

6 Roy Devyn Marble...1,694 (4 yrs: 2011-2014; 136 GP, .415 FG%,, 12.5 ppg; 134 three pt goals)

7 Ronnie Lester...1,675(4 yrs: 1977-1980, 99 GP, .471 FG%,, 16.9 ppg)

8 Matt Gatens...1,635 (4 yrs: 2009-2012; 128 GP, .415 FG%,, 12.8 ppg; 239 three pt goals)

9 Jess Settles...1,611 (5 yrs: 1994-1997, 1999, 116 GP, .490 FG%,, 13.9 ppg; 113 three pt goals)

10 Adam Haluska...1,578 (3 yrs: 2005-2007; 98 GP, .430 FG%,, 16.1 ppg; 212 three pt goals); NOTE: 284 pts @ ISU = 1,862 in four years

11 Dean Oliver...1,561 (4 yrs: 1998-2001, 126 GP, .384 FG%,, 12.4 ppg; 161 three pt goals)

12 Andre Woolridge...1,525 (3 yrs: 1995-1997, 97 GP, .467 FG%,, 15.7 ppg; 104 three pt goals)

13 Don Nelson...1,522 (3 yrs: 1960-1962, 72 GP, .507 FG%,, 21.2 ppg)

14 Greg Brunner...1,516 (4 yrs: 2003-2006, 127 GP, .503 FG%,, 11.9 ppg; 42 three pt goals)

15 Peter Jok...1,508 (4 yrs: 2014-2017, 125 GP, .413 FG%, 12.1 ppg, 216 three pt goals)

16 Jeff Horner...1,502 (4 yrs: 2003-2006, 123 GP, .391 FG%,, 12.2 ppg; 262 three pt goals)

17 Ed Horton...1,372 (4 yrs: 1986-1989, 131 GP, .516 FG%,, 10.5 ppg; 1 three pt goals)

18 Bruce King...1,361 (3 yrs: 1975-1977, 80 GP, .479 FG%,, 17 ppg)

19 James Moses...1,343 (4 yrs: 1989-1992, 123 GP, .398 FG%,, 10.9 ppg; 109 three pt goals)

20 Tyler Cook...1,315 (3 yrs: 2017-2019, 93 GP, .542 FG%, 14.1 ppg; 3 three pt goals)

21 Jarrod Uthoff...1,298 (3 yrs: 2014-2016, 100 GP, .450 FG%, 13.0 ppg; 137 three pt goals)

22 Jeff Moe...1,248 (4 yrs: 1985-1988, 131 GP, .480 FG%,, 9.5 ppg; 131 three pt goals)

23 Kenyon Murray...1,230 (4 yrs: 1993-1996, 124 GP, .462 FG%, 9.9 ppg; 49 three pt goals)

24 Jordan Bohannon...1,222 (3 yrs: 2017-2019, 102 GP, .398 FG%, 12.0 ppg; 264 three pt goals)


NOTABLES:

Sam Williams...1,176 (2 yrs: 1967-1968, 49 GP, .466 FG%,, 24 ppg)

John Johnson...1,172 (2 yrs: 1969-1970, 49 GP, .543 FG%,, 23.9 ppg)

Fred Brown...1,091 (2 yrs: 1970-1971, 48 GP, .501 FG%,, 22.7 ppg)

Reggie Evans...1,054 (2 yrs: 2001-2002, 69 GP, .486 FG%,, 15.3 ppg; 1 three point goal)


Keep in mind that the 3 point shot was officially introduced to all of college basketball for the 1986-87 season. As you see above, that benefited Matt Gatens with 239 extra career points from his 239 three point shot makes. Imagine if the three point shot had existed for "Downtown Freddie Brown." It is interesting, too, that Horner made 262 three point shots; only his overall .391 FG % prevented him from further climbing up the career scoring list.

Whats interesting, too, is that Don Nelson and Ronnie Lester had great scoring averages; however, because of fewer games played at Iowa, it prevented them from being higher up the all time list.

21.2 ppg, 72 GP, Don Nelson,

16.9 ppg, 99 GP, Ronnie Lester


Sources: http://www.sports-reference.com/cbb/players/

 

[hawkjt]

TC fg percentage@ .542 a close 2nd to Stokes@ .545.
Great job, TC.

 

[Suterman]

TC will be missed. He would have posted some serious numbers if had stayed for his Senior season.

 

[jimbob22]

TC will be missed. He would have posted some serious numbers if had stayed for his Senior season.

Cook will be missed bigtime. It's early in the day, but I can't believe that a half-dozen 'experts' haven't pointed out that Cook won't make the NBA. Their day is not complete without making that observation, or that Iowa guards aren't athletic enough, or that Fran can't recruit.

 

[longliveCS40]

...and the jokers on here think we are better without Cook.

 

[SDHawkDoc]

He was one of the more athletic bigs that Iowa has had in the last few decades. Very good back to the basket game in the post. He also had significant limitations on both ends. Overall I disagree with the group that thinks the team will be better without him. Despite his flaws, what he added was significant and next year's roster does not replace those things.

 

[NevadaHawk]

Source:https://www.hawkcentral.com/story/s...ing-his-three-year-college-career/3451084002/


Here is the current Iowa career scoring list (updated after completion of 2018-2019 season):

1 Roy Marble...2,116 (4 yrs: 1986-1989, 134 GP, .539 FG%,, 15.8 ppg; 26 three pt goals)

2 Aaron White...1,859 (4 yrs: 2012-2015, 140 GP, .517 FG%,, 13.3 ppg; 61 three pt goals)

3 Acie Earl...1,779 (4 yrs: 1990-1993, 116 GP, .508 FG%,, 15.3 ppg; 2 three pt goals)

4 Greg Stokes...1,768 (4 yrs: 1982-1985, 120 GP, .545 FG%,, 14.7 ppg)

5 BJ Armstrong...1,705 (4 yrs: 1986-1989, 130 GP, .492 FG%,, 13.1 ppg; 136 three pt goals)

6 Roy Devyn Marble...1,694 (4 yrs: 2011-2014; 136 GP, .415 FG%,, 12.5 ppg; 134 three pt goals)

7 Ronnie Lester...1,675(4 yrs: 1977-1980, 99 GP, .471 FG%,, 16.9 ppg)

8 Matt Gatens...1,635 (4 yrs: 2009-2012; 128 GP, .415 FG%,, 12.8 ppg; 239 three pt goals)

9 Jess Settles...1,611 (5 yrs: 1994-1997, 1999, 116 GP, .490 FG%,, 13.9 ppg; 113 three pt goals)

10 Adam Haluska...1,578 (3 yrs: 2005-2007; 98 GP, .430 FG%,, 16.1 ppg; 212 three pt goals); NOTE: 284 pts @ ISU = 1,862 in four years

11 Dean Oliver...1,561 (4 yrs: 1998-2001, 126 GP, .384 FG%,, 12.4 ppg; 161 three pt goals)

12 Andre Woolridge...1,525 (3 yrs: 1995-1997, 97 GP, .467 FG%,, 15.7 ppg; 104 three pt goals)

13 Don Nelson...1,522 (3 yrs: 1960-1962, 72 GP, .507 FG%,, 21.2 ppg)

14 Greg Brunner...1,516 (4 yrs: 2003-2006, 127 GP, .503 FG%,, 11.9 ppg; 42 three pt goals)

15 Peter Jok...1,508 (4 yrs: 2014-2017, 125 GP, .413 FG%, 12.1 ppg, 216 three pt goals)

16 Jeff Horner...1,502 (4 yrs: 2003-2006, 123 GP, .391 FG%,, 12.2 ppg; 262 three pt goals)

17 Ed Horton...1,372 (4 yrs: 1986-1989, 131 GP, .516 FG%,, 10.5 ppg; 1 three pt goals)

18 Bruce King...1,361 (3 yrs: 1975-1977, 80 GP, .479 FG%,, 17 ppg)

19 James Moses...1,343 (4 yrs: 1989-1992, 123 GP, .398 FG%,, 10.9 ppg; 109 three pt goals)

20 Tyler Cook...1,315 (3 yrs: 2017-2019, 93 GP, .542 FG%, 14.1 ppg; 3 three pt goals)

21 Jarrod Uthoff...1,298 (3 yrs: 2014-2016, 100 GP, .450 FG%, 13.0 ppg; 137 three pt goals)

22 Jeff Moe...1,248 (4 yrs: 1985-1988, 131 GP, .480 FG%,, 9.5 ppg; 131 three pt goals)

23 Kenyon Murray...1,230 (4 yrs: 1993-1996, 124 GP, .462 FG%, 9.9 ppg; 49 three pt goals)

24 Jordan Bohannon...1,222 (3 yrs: 2017-2019, 102 GP, .398 FG%, 12.0 ppg; 264 three pt goals)


NOTABLES:

Sam Williams...1,176 (2 yrs: 1967-1968, 49 GP, .466 FG%,, 24 ppg)

John Johnson...1,172 (2 yrs: 1969-1970, 49 GP, .543 FG%,, 23.9 ppg)

Fred Brown...1,091 (2 yrs: 1970-1971, 48 GP, .501 FG%,, 22.7 ppg)

Reggie Evans...1,054 (2 yrs: 2001-2002, 69 GP, .486 FG%,, 15.3 ppg; 1 three point goal)


Keep in mind that the 3 point shot was officially introduced to all of college basketball for the 1986-87 season. As you see above, that benefited Matt Gatens with 239 extra career points from his 239 three point shot makes. Imagine if the three point shot had existed for "Downtown Freddie Brown." It is interesting, too, that Horner made 262 three point shots; only his overall .391 FG % prevented him from further climbing up the career scoring list.

Whats interesting, too, is that Don Nelson and Ronnie Lester had great scoring averages; however, because of fewer games played at Iowa, it prevented them from being higher up the all time list.

21.2 ppg, 72 GP, Don Nelson,

16.9 ppg, 99 GP, Ronnie Lester


Sources: http://www.sports-reference.com/cbb/players/

Nice work Franisdaman. Interesting to see how some of the former hawkeye greats stack up over time. Ronnie Lester would have easily landed in the top 5 if not for those two knee injuries. JBo might come in somewhere on that list by the end of the next season.

 

[Ihawkhoops]

Don't show those stats to the "Glad Cook is leaving crowd". The Cook loss will be similar to losing Jok. One of the few Fran recruits capable of getting his own shot with little / no help from the offense. The athleticism meter took a marked turn for the worse with his departure and it wasn't very high to begin with.

 

[anon_i8nzeu2gbf0ba]

Those are good numbers, but career stats must be viewed against the fact Iowa plays a whole lot more games now than they used to. In 1969-1970, for example, Iowa played 25 games. Last season they played 35. And until 1969, freshmen weren't eligible for varsity competition. So yes, good numbers, but they need some context if they are to be very meaningful.

 

[IllQChawk]

Don't show those stats to the "Glad Cook is leaving crowd". The Cook loss will be similar to losing Jok. One of the few Fran recruits capable of getting his own shot with little / no help from the offense. The athleticism meter took a marked turn for the worse with his departure and it wasn't very high to begin with.

There are three kinds of lies: "Lies, Damn Lies, and Statistics".
Just watched again the Iowa win at Wisconsin in 2017, Cook. Pemsl's, Krieners, and Bohannan's freshmen season. My observation of Cook's game is one would never know by watching that game or from any one in his junior season. Sorry, great athlete, just never improved as much as he should have.
Someone that took 911 shots and made 494 of them, mostly around the basket a 0.542% and took 507 free throws and made 324 of them for a 0.639% should absolutely be in the top 20 in Iowa scoring.
But that doesn't make him a player that I'm going to put in the same category as Marble, or White or any other player in the top 20, just my opinion..

 

[ChisHawk81]

There are three kinds of lies: "Lies, Damn Lies, and Statistics".
Just watched again the Iowa win at Wisconsin in 2017, Cook. Pemsl's, Krieners, and Bohannan's freshmen season. My observation of Cook's game is one would never know by watching that game or from any one in his junior season. Sorry, great athlete, just never improved as much as he should have.
Someone that took 911 shots and made 494 of them, mostly around the basket a 0.542% and took 507 free throws and made 324 of them for a 0.639% should absolutely be in the top 20 in Iowa scoring.
But that doesn't make him a player that I'm going to put in the same category as Marble, or White or any other player in the top 20, just my opinion..

Agree. I'd prefer he came back but Iowa will be ok.

 

[BBHawk]

Those are good numbers, but career stats must be viewed against the fact Iowa plays a whole lot more games now than they used to. In 1969-1970, for example, Iowa played 25 games. Last season they played 35. And until 1969, freshmen weren't eligible for varsity competition. So yes, good numbers, but they need some context if they are to be very meaningful.

Averages per game and shooting percentages are not dependent on length of career.

 

[Legend12]

Averages per game and shooting percentages are not dependent on length of career.

Lol

 

[BBHawk]

Lol

I see you are slumming it again.

 

[Legend12]

I see you are slumming it again.

And I see you are being an idiot again.

 

[The Deplorable Sleeping Dog]

All statistics require some understanding of the larger context in which they are generated, to make a rather obvious point. For example, PPG and shooting percentage are very much era dependent, at least for most players. A few guys, like Wilt or Jim Brown in football, were such rare specimens of our species that they'd perform about the same regardless of era.

I don't think anyone could fairly deny the defensive improvement in the last 45 years. At the same time, the introduction of the 3 pointer and the shot clock have helped to produce more points defense notwithstanding.

It also cannot be fairly denied that TC was a very productive player in his Iowa career. He certainly made a lot of spectacular scoring plays and monster rebounds. But, he also made a lot of mistakes with ball handling, decision making and defense. We obviously don't have anyone that is going to produce the momentum building thunder dunks but we might have a player or players that improve the overall productivity of the team. To be determined...

 

[BBHawk]

And I see you are being an idiot again.

You are a special person.

 

[Franisdaman]

TC will be missed. He would have posted some serious numbers if had stayed for his Senior season.

Nice work Franisdaman. Interesting to see how some of the former hawkeye greats stack up over time. Ronnie Lester would have easily landed in the top 5 if not for those two knee injuries. JBo might come in somewhere on that list by the end of the next season.

Don't show those stats to the "Glad Cook is leaving crowd". The Cook loss will be similar to losing Jok. One of the few Fran recruits capable of getting his own shot with little / no help from the offense. The athleticism meter took a marked turn for the worse with his departure and it wasn't very high to begin with.

If Jordan scores the same number of points next season as this season, he will finish his career in the Top 10.

If Tyler stays (unlikely) and scores the same number of points next season as this season, he will finish his career in the Top 3.

 

[Franisdaman]

Those are good numbers, but career stats must be viewed against the fact Iowa plays a whole lot more games now than they used to. In 1969-1970, for example, Iowa played 25 games. Last season they played 35. And until 1969, freshmen weren't eligible for varsity competition. So yes, good numbers, but they need some context if they are to be very meaningful.

You forgot about the 3 point shot inflating scoring #s.

That's why, in the orig post, I discussed that and I list the following:

* Games played
* # of Years played
* FG%
* Points per game
* # 3 point shots made

That way, if you want to compare any player from this era to a previous era, you can and in better context.

Compare our all time leading scorer to Don Nelson, for example. Roy played in 62 more games!

1 Roy Marble...2,116 (4 yrs: 1986-1989, 134 GP, .539 FG%,, 15.8 ppg; 26 three pt goals)

13 Don Nelson...1,522 (3 yrs: 1960-1962, 72 GP, .507 FG%,, 21.2 ppg)

 

[sbhawk64]

That is actually a sad statistic reflecting on the Iowa program.

A possible middle to late 2nd round draft pick is in the top ten after 3 years of work.

 

[hawkeye_1997]

Am I just blind or who are the other 8 players?

 

[kzoohawk80]

...and the jokers on here think we are better without Cook.

Thanks for bringing this up again. It's not like there isn't four different threads about this already. But you couldn't resist could you. Those stats prove nothing about missing Cook next year but you keep on doing you.

 

[longliveCS40]

Thanks for bringing this up again. It's not like there isn't four different threads about this already. But you couldn't resist could you. Those stats prove nothing about missing Cook next year but you keep on doing you.

Must have hit a nerve. I guess you've outed yourself as someone that thinks we are better without Cook. So, explain why you think that. I'm all ears.

 

[kzoohawk80]

Must have hit a nerve. I guess you've outed yourself as someone that thinks we are better without Cook. So, explain why you think that. I'm all ears.

There's zero reason to. It's been discussed over and over on this board. After it's been discussed over and over again it gets discussed again.

 

[longliveCS40]

There's zero reason to. It's been discussed over and over on this board. After it's been discussed over and over again it gets discussed again.

So you have no valid reasons in other words. I'll give you reasons why he was important to the team.

1. Defense. He's not a lock down defender but he's big and athletic enough to guard the best of the Big Ten, log a lot of minutes, and not get into foul trouble often. Garza is foul prone with his slow feet so this was huge.

2. A legitimate one on one scoring threat. On a team with very few guys that could create their own shot, this was huge. When the offense broke down and people couldn't get open, he often times created. Certainly not perfect and was prone to turnovers but having to create led to a lot of that.

3. Rebounding. I thought with his athleticism and size, he could have been a better rebounder but the numbers don't lie. He was consistent in grabbing boards the best on the team at this.

4. Scoring. Again, the numbers don't lie. He scored a lot of points and we needed them on this team where we often had to outscore the other team due to poor team defense.

Could he have had better hands? Yes. Could he have had more patience on offense at times? Yes.

Having said that, he was a big part of the team's success. A main guy that carried them at times. This team is not better without him. It's a big loss.

 

[IllQChawk]

So you have no valid reasons in other words. I'll give you reasons why he was important to the team.

1. Defense. He's not a lock down defender but he's big and athletic enough to guard the best of the Big Ten, log a lot of minutes, and not get into foul trouble often. Garza is foul prone with his slow feet so this was huge.

2. A legitimate one on one scoring threat. On a team with very few guys that could create their own shot, this was huge. When the offense broke down and people couldn't get open, he often times created. Certainly not perfect and was prone to turnovers but having to create led to a lot of that.

3. Rebounding. I thought with his athleticism and size, he could have been a better rebounder but the numbers don't lie. He was consistent in grabbing boards the best on the team at this.

4. Scoring. Again, the numbers don't lie. He scored a lot of points and we needed them on this team where we often had to outscore the other team due to poor team defense.

Could he have had better hands? Yes. Could he have had more patience on offense at times? Yes.

Having said that, he was a big part of the team's success. A main guy that carried them at times. This team is not better without him. It's a big loss.

Evidently, when Iowa finishes in last place in the Big Ten in the up coming season longliveCS40 and others can revisit the board and proclaim, see I told you so.
Now I'm not advocating Iowa will finish in last place, but then again I'm not advocating that Tyler was any more important on last years team then anyone else and if Cook had been a senior and had used up his eligibility by graduating would there really be this much blow-back to his departure.
He was a player that took it upon himself to be the main scorer with mixed results. There were past players at Iowa that were much more important and frankly were much better players then Tyler. Iowa survived all those departures, that's just the nature of the college game.
Nunge, Pemsl, & Patrick McCaffery will be available along with Garza, Kriener, and Wieskamp, I'm pretty sure that a combination of these returning players will cover the scoring and rebounding loss of Tyler. It's not like Tyler was 1st team all-american or all Big Ten. He wasn't even close to that status.

 

[hawkjt]

TC was 2nd team all Big Ten as a junior.
Our 1st team all league performers were seniors.TC probably makes 1st team if he sticks around.
His departure leaves us with a roster of non-explosive athletes with no one to bail us out at end of shot clock. TC will be missed more because there simply no one like him to step in.

 

[IllQChawk]

TC was 2nd team all Big Ten as a junior.
Our 1st team all league performers were seniors.TC probably makes 1st team if he sticks around.
His departure leaves us with a roster of non-explosive athletes with no one to bail us out at end of shot clock. TC will be missed more because there simply no one like him to step in.

That's a subjective poll, I understand it, but his statistics didn't merit 2nd team all Big Ten.
Really, you think that 14.5 ppg at 51%, a free throw % of 64% and 7.6 rpg and all that playing 31 minutes a game rates 2nd team all Big Ten! if you were given those stats without knowing whose they were, and you had a vote in that poll, I'd bet you wouldn't even have him in your top 20 in the Big, if that, give me a break!

 

[IllQChawk]

TC was 2nd team all Big Ten as a junior.
Our 1st team all league performers were seniors.TC probably makes 1st team if he sticks around.
His departure leaves us with a roster of non-explosive athletes with no one to bail us out at end of shot clock. TC will be missed more because there simply no one like him to step in.

So do you blame Tyler for leaving early or does it fall on coach Fran and his assistants for not filling the athletic void?
Tyler gave us one year more then he intended, it was up to our coaching staff to fill his replacement. I'd say you should be bitching about Fran's lack of foresight, but then again I'm going to see how the existing roster of players fill the void of losing Tyler before I go all nuclear. I don't think it will be that hard.

 

[The Deplorable Sleeping Dog]

Jordan Bohannon is the best guy we have at the end of the shot clock. I'm thinking Joey W is going to be pretty tough on a diminishing shot clock.

There were a lot of teams in the round of 32 and the sweet 16 that had a lot of non explosive players playing good team ball and winning. But TC is a big hole to fill. I think that the Big C and Jack, either or more likely both as a situational hybrid, could turn out to provide a less spectacular but more productive player at the position. Of course they could fail to do so as well.

I'm of the in the optimistic view. I think, if the injuries haven't taken the bounce and quickness like Jarryd Cole, the Big C is going to be the surprise of the year. Jack has shown some promise. If he's up to 245-250 he's going to be a load inside and he had a decent looking 3 ball. Jack had some enthusiastic defenders although I was not among them. But, he played a lot out of position and was much skinnier and weak. A 6'11" 215 pounder isn't much of a threat inside but the same guy at 245 - 250 is a whole different animal.