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Iowa at Mn PBP thread

His losses are to #4 McEnelly and #7 Pinto. He has beaten #11 Smith, #12 Ruth and #18 Rogotzke. Starcocci and Keckeisen top 2 by far. Then Plott, McEnelly, Berge, and Foca are 3-6. He's going to have to beat someone of that caliber to AA most likely.
Mission #1...actually try and get a takedown.

Wake me up when that happens.
Fortunately, they hardly ever call stalling at Nattys, so perhaps he can score on someone's bad shot.
 
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Especially considering part of his pro career was in wrestling that he was paid for. Can a football player go NFL for a year and then return to their college to play again?
Not in football but they could in another sport. You see it with baseball frequently.
 
I think the post I was responding to was talking about after the match when they were both on a knee. You couldn’t see what Gable was saying as it was the back of his head
Yeah, Gable has matured a lot. I think it was all encouragement.
Can't wait to see him destroy Kerk. Lol
He's a generational guy.
Hope he gets paid and goes team USA again
 
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Should that make us feel good? At one time he majored that guy, now flight to not get majored. Awesome
If Vombauer has to wrestle down at 133 against him again right now like four years ago I'd bet CS stills wins. Now CS has to wrestle up at Vombauer's best weight, and the script is not surprisingly flipped. Unless you think CS is really a true 141 and not just the best (maybe only) option left at this point, then by all means feel bad about it. CS hasn't lived up to being the DeSanto heir apparent we had all hoped, but he'd also likely be a blood round guy (at worst) at 133 this year if Ayala was still at 125. Now I just hope he steals a bid at B10s and at least gets to make nationals to finish his career.
 
His losses are to #4 McEnelly and #7 Pinto. He has beaten #11 Smith, #12 Ruth and #18 Rogotzke. Starcocci and Keckeisen top 2 by far. Then Plott, McEnelly, Berge, and Foca are 3-6. He's going to have to beat someone of that caliber to AA most likely.
His defense is top 5, his offense is top 20. He will fare much better at 74, and not undersized at all there. Kennedy is undersized though. He gave Max that last takedown which kills me, similar to him giving Ryder the last takedown in U17s this summer. The problem with that opposite side swing single (to his belly) is that even if he catches an ankle it will be impossible to finish against 84ers. His duck would have helped him tonight. Whatever he scores on Ferrari with is what he should go to in OT
 
Common man. He’s a freshman most likely not wrestling his ideal weight. 3 losses to Allred, Plott, and Mcenelly. Right there in every match. Seems a bit harsh
It's not the losses it's also the wins. He barely beat the kid from Bellarmine, went to OT with Rogotzke and should have opened it up against Ruth. He needs to use his offense in the first, and then his defense to hold on for the wins. He will be a stud and he is athletic as hell. I have faith. He's top 10 right now and needs to rise to the occasion in the RD12 match.
 
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It's not the losses it's also the wins. He barely beat the kid from Bellarmine, went to OT with Rogotzke and should have opened it up against Ruth. He needs to use his offense in the first, and then his defense to hold on for the wins. He will be a stud and he is athletic as hell. I have faith. He's top 10 right now and needs to rise to the occasion in the RD12 match.
I don’t disagree. Just not gonna bust balls when all his losses are to top tier opponents as a freshman up a weight.
 
Great dual overall. Hard-fought matches up and down the lineup, starting with Cruz.

Left some points on the board, as Beatty noted. Still not consistently attacking, wasting periods, letting guys stay in matches too long. But the caliber of competition was pretty high up and down the MN lineup. We beat a good team--by a lot.

Thought Arnold was going to win--so did he, which is good. He was more active offensively, even though he didn't fully commit to many shots (neither did opponent). Once again, took a bad shot in OT. If he can up his offense against guys #6-20, I'll take a tight match with #1-4.

Only disappointment for me was Schriever, and even he stayed in it to the end, avoiding a major.

Fun dual.
 
Heartbreaking loss for Gabe. Just did not have a takedown in him tonight. Not that its something to brag about but isn't that the closest match for McEnelly?
Agree. I thought Gabe wrestled a good match tonight. May not have been very close to any takedowns, but he stayed in there and fought hard against a damn good wrestler, and took it to OT. And from what I saw, he gave up that OT takedown largely because he slipped. Yes, he needs to get to more offense, and maybe 74 is better for him, but I still liked what I saw from him tonight. He'll keep getting better.
 
Gable was being a jackass all night and running his mouth along with the idiot Minny fans… Made his behavior after his match with BK even stranger.
He doesn't realize he's being a jackass. He thinks it's all in fun, which it is, of course, for him. He doesn't realize it's not appropriate to ask your opponent"Are you okay?" in the middle of a match, as it implies the opponent is as nonchalant about losing the match as he is about winning it. I think he's not a bad guy, just kind of weird and clueless. The GI Joe beard, the whole WWE thing. He's not a complete ass like Gilman, but he's on the unlikable spectrum.
 
Iowa 23, Minnesota 11

Match notes

125: #23 Joey Cruz (IOWA) over #10 Cooper Flynn (MINN) (SV-1 7-4)

133: #2 Drake Ayala (IOWA) over #12 Tyler Wells (MINN) (Dec 9-5)

141: #8 Vance Vombaur (MINN) over Cullan Schriever (IOWA) (Dec 14-10)

149: #3 Kyle Parco (IOWA) over #25 Drew Roberts (MINN) (Dec 5-0)

157: #2 Jacori Teemer (IOWA) over #9 Tommy Askey (MINN) (Dec 4-1)

165: #2 Mike Caliendo (IOWA) over #15 Andrew Sparks (MINN) (TF 21-5 6:09)

174: #7 Patrick Kennedy (IOWA) over #21 Clayton Whiting (MINN) (Dec 8-4)

184: #4 Max McEnelly (MINN) over #7 Gabe Arnold (IOWA) (SV-1 4-1)

197: #1 Stephen Buchanan (IOWA) over #9 Isaiah Salazar (MINN) (Dec 4-1)

285: #1 Gable Steveson (MINN) over #11 Ben Kueter (IOWA) (TF 19-3 2:51)

Match notes from Track

125: #23 Joey Cruz, Iowa vs #10 Cooper Flynn, Minnesota​

First period: Morvari was listed in the probable but Cooper Flynn takes the mat for the Gophers. Cruz gets his hands locked around Flynn's legs with a lefty single but Flynn defends well and forces a stalemate. Cruz is coming forward and getting to his control ties - he gets back to his single and finishes for a takedown after a short scramble. Flynn gets to his feet at the end of the period but Cruz gets a big lift and mat return to end the period on top with a 3-0 lead.

Second period: They go neutral to start the period and Cruz gets right back to his left side single. Flynn scrambles through and forces a stalemate. Cruz continues to come forward and Flynn is hit for his first stall warning. No score to end the period and Cruz keeps his 3-0 lead heading to the final frame.

Third period: Flynn goes down to start the period. Flynn stands to his feet a few times but Cruz brings him back down with big mat returns to build riding time over one minute. Flynn finally escapes with about 40 seconds left but Cruz has riding time secured. Flynn gets to his single leg and looks to finish through the middle - he gets the takedown with just 5 seconds left and rides Cruz out to force overtime! Flynn looks like he doesn't know it's going to overtime - he took his headgear off with a smile on his face.

Overtime: Headgear is back on and Cruz continues to move forward. He shoots his lefty single again, gets his hands locked, and pulls it in for the finish - Cruz wins 7-4 in a fantastic opening match!

Team Score - Iowa 3, Minnesota 0

133: #2 Drake Ayala, Iowa vs 12 Tyler Wells, Minnesota​

First period: A couple of slide-by attempts for Ayala to start the match but Wells defends every time. Now Ayala goes arm-drag to a single leg and earns the takedown with about 30 seconds to go in the first period. Ayala finishes the period on top and will take a 3-0 lead into the second.

Second Period: Ayala goes down and quickly escapes. Ayala goes back to the slide-by and hits it cleanly for a takedown to build his lead to 7-0. Ayala builds his riding time over one minute before Wells earns an escape. Ayala is right in on a single leg and almost finishes but Wells dive rolls underneath to avoid giving up another takedown at the end of the period.

Third period: Wells goes down and escapes after about 30 seconds of Ayala riding. Wells shoots a clean single leg with about a minute to go and pulls it in to finish the takedown. Ayala leads 7-5 now - Wells lets Ayala escape and is pushing hard for another takedown. Ayala has riding time locked up and Wells can't get any more offense going - the match ends in Ayala's favor, 9-5.

Team Score - Iowa 6, Minnesota 0


141: Cullan Schriever, Iowa vs #8 Vance Vombaur, Minnesota​

First period: Both wrestlers are trading attacks to start the match but neither get too close to scoring. Vombaur is setting a really high pace and he gets to Schriever's right leg with a single. Vombaur gets close to finishing but Schriever defends and scrambles to force a stalemate. Now Schriever gets to a single and has Vombaur's leg in the air - Schriever tries to trip and cover but Vombaur displays incredible defense to avoid giving up a takedown. Vombaur fires off a single leg with less than 15 seconds left and pulls it in to finish for the takedown - Vombaur leads 3-0 after the first three minutes.

Second period: Vombaur goes down and escapes in less than 10 seconds. Vombaur gets back to his single leg with about 30 seconds left in the second and finishes to extend his lead to 7-0. Vombaur is riding hard but Schriever escapes with maybe 1 second left to get on the board.

Third period: Schriever goes down and earns a quick escape only to be taken down again by Vombaur. Schriever gets right back up to his feet - Vombaur leads 10-3 now, riding time is not a factor. Schriever attacks but Vombaur defends and fires off a reattack to earn another takedown. Vombaur's playing catch and release now but Schriever's bleeding so we'll get a quick break from the frantic wrestling. Back underway and Schriever earns a takedown - that will erase the major unless Vombaur can get one more but time is running out. Vombaur escapes and immediately gets in on a leg - he's extended and tries to force a takedown but Schriever counters to earn a takedown as time expires - Vombaur wins 14-10.

Team Score - Iowa 6, Minnesota 3


149: #3 Kyle Parco, Iowa vs #25 Drew Roberts, Minnesota​

First period: Parco forces double under early and uses that to get to his single leg - he finishes quickly to take a 3-0 lead. Parco commits to the ride and finishes the period on top with 1:20 of riding time.

Second period: Parco goes down and escapes in less than 5 seconds to go up 4-0. Not much action the rest of the second and Parco will hold the 4-0 lead heading into the third.

Third period: Roberts goes down to start the period but Parco is committing to the ride. Roberts seals off to a sit out but Parco follows well - Roberts just can't get away. Parco looks content to finish this match on top and Roberts doesn't have any answers underneath. No turns for Parco but he'll get another point for riding time and he wins 5-0.

Team Score - Iowa 9, Minnesota 3

157: #2 Jacori Teemer, Iowa #9 Tommy Askey, Minnesota​

First period: A few back-and-forth exchanges but not much action to write about in the first 3 minutes. 0-0 after the first period.

Second period: Askey goes down and escapes in about 5 seconds to take a 1-0 lead. Askey gets to Teemer's right leg cleanly and has it up in the air - he tries to cover the other leg but Teemer gets his hips back to avoid giving up the takedown. Askey leads 1-0 going into the third period.

Third period: Teemer goes down in the third and earns the escape - we're tied at 1 now. Teemer fires off a power double but Askey defends and almost gets to Teemer's legs on a counterattack. Thirty seconds to go and Teemer hits another powerful double leg and this time he converts for the takedown. Teemer rides out to win 4-1.

Team Score - Iowa 12, Minnesota 3
 

165: #2 Michael Caliendo, Iowa vs #15 Andrew Sparks, Minnesota​

First period: Caliendo gets to his offense early and finishes a left single leg in the first minute to get out to a 3-0 lead. Sparks earns an escape and then looks to get his offense going with a single leg but Caliend counters with a reattack for another takedown. Sparks escapes again to make it 6-2 and that's how the period will end.

Second period: Caliendo goes down and escapes quickly to build his lead to 7-2. Sparks gets to Caliendo's leg and brings it up but Caliendo limp legs out to avoid giving up a takedown. Caliendo attempts a duck but Sparks counters with a double - Caliendo hips in and catches Sparks in neutral danger. Caliendo gets the three count and holds Sparks on his back for four near fall. Sparks earns a reversal but Caliendo escapes and earns 2 more takedowns to take an 18-4 lead into the third period.

Third period: Sparks goes down to start the third and escapes - it's 18-5 now. Caliendo shoots a double and finishes quickly to close out the tech - 21-5.

Team Score - Iowa 17, Minnesota 3

174: #7 Patrick Kennedy, Iowa vs #21 Clayton Whiting, Minnesota​

First period: A lot of feeling out for both wrestlers to start this match. At about 90 seconds in, Kennedy fires off a sweep single and finishes after Whiting tries to kick away. Kennedy commits to the ride and finishes the period on top with over 1:30 of riding time.

Second period: Kennedy goes down, sits, seals off, and escapes to lead 4-0. Kennedy is pressuring forward but Whiting is doing just enough to avoid giving up a stall call. Less than thirty seconds to go in the period and Kennedy is back in on a single leg. Kennedy has both legs and Whiting is on his butt and defending with a chest wrap but the ref isn't calling a takedown. The period ends and they're going to review the call. After a review, the call is reversed and Kennedy is awarded a takedown.

Third period: Whting goes down and Kennedy is riding hard on top. Kennedy secures riding time but Whiting escapes with about 30 seconds left. Kennedy will need a takedown to get the major but it's Whiting who gets to his attack and finishes a takedown on the edge of the mat with 8 seconds left. Whiting finishes the match on top but Kennedy wins this one, 8-4.

Team Score - Iowa 20, Minnesota 3

184: # 7 Gabe Arnold, Iowa vs #4 Max McEnelly, Minnesota​

First period: Good hand fight to start the match and McEnelly gets to Arnold's right leg. McEnelly brings the leg up to his feet and tries to finish but Arnold rolls through and avoids giving up the takedown - great defense by Arnold. Neither wrestler gets close to scoring the rest of the period and it's scoreless heading into the second period.

Second period: Arnold goes down and escapes in about 4 seconds to get on the board first. McEnelly attempts a few shots but he isn't able to string anything together. Arnold is doing enough to avoid being called for stalling and he'll lead 1-0 going into the third period.

Third period: McEnelly goes down and escapes quickly to tie the score. Both McEnelly and Arnold are trying to open up but neither is conceding. Not a ton of action and we're tied at 1 after 7 minutes.

Overtime: McEnelly is coming forward but Arnold is holding his ground. Arnold attempts a shot but McEnelly finds the angle and runs to the leg. He brings it off the mat, Arnold tries to roll through but McEnelly stuffs the counter and finishes the takedown for the win!

Team Score - Iowa 20, Minnesota 6


197: #1 Stephen Buchanan, Iowa #9 Isaiah Salazar Minnesota​

First period: Not a ton of action - both wrestlers are handfighting hard but not really committing to an attack. Score remains 0-0 at the end of the first.

Second period: Buchanan goes down and escapes in less than 5 seconds. Buchanan might be coming forward slightly more than Salazar but not enough to earn a stall call. Salazar fires off a clean single leg and gets in deep. Buchanan feeds him some hips and gets his leg back to avoid giving up a takedown. Buchanan leads 1-0 going into the third period.

Third period: Salazar goes down in the third and Buchanan is riding hard on top. Salazar gets to his feet a few times but Buchanan gets some big mat returns to build his riding time over 1 minute. Salazar finally escapes but only has about 40 seconds to get a takedown. Salazar is picking up his pace and firing off attacks but Buchanan counter attacks and finishes a double to close out the match - Buchanan wins 5-1.

Team Score - Iowa 23, Minnesota 6

285: # 11 Ben Kueter, Iowa vs #1 Gable Steveson, Minnesota​

First period: Snap and go-behind for Steveson to lead 3-0 lead less than a minute into the match. Steveson staying on top and is building riding time - he rides for about a minute before letting Kueter escape. Steveson gets a takedown and finishes right to Kueter's back for 3 back points - Gable leads 9-1. He lets Kueter back up and then powers through a double and catches Kueter on his back again - this time he gets four back points to build his lead to 16-2. Steveson lets Kueter back up and then hits a misdirection single leg to close out the match for a 19-2 tech fall win. Incredible offensive display by Gable Steveson.

Final Team Score - Iowa 23, Minnesota 11
 
From the_guillotine_forum- probably MN press release

Iowa 23, Minnesota 11​

February 14, 2025
Gophers Bested by No. 3 Iowa
MINNEAPOLIS – Seventh-ranked Minnesota (10-2, 6-2 B1G) saw its six-match win streak come to an end Friday night in front of a sold-out crowd of 5,307 in a 23-11 loss to No. 3 Iowa (12-1, 6-1).
The Hawkeyes won the first two matches of the night. No. 13 Cooper Flynn fell to No. 26 Joey Cruz in sudden victory, 7-4, at 125 pounds. Cruz led 3-0 with the riding time advance going into the third period when Flynn got an escape. As the clock ticked down, Flynn recorded the tying takedown in the final seconds to force overtime, but it was Cruz who prevailed in the extra session.
After No. 19 Tyler Wells fell to No. 3 Drake Ayala, 9-5, at 133 pounds, Minnesota got its first win of the night at 141 pounds.
In the lone unranked match of the night, No. 8 Vance VomBaur earned a 14-10 decision over Cullan Schriever. As the first period wound down, VomBaur scrambled away from a Schriever attack and scored a takedown just before the buzzer. The lead grew to 7-1 through two periods as VomBaur matched teammate Tommy Askey for the team lead with his 20th victory of the season.
Iowa earned decisions at 149 and 157 pounds to extend the lead to 12-3. No. 3 Kyle Parco shut out No. 29 Drew Roberts, 5-0, at 149, while third-ranked Jacori Teemer used a takedown in the closing seconds to beat Askey, 4-1.
Coming out of intermission, Michael Caliendo had Iowa’s lone bonus-point win of the night in a 21-5 (6:09) tech fall over 11th-ranked Andrew Sparks. Patrick Kennedy, ranked 11th at 174 pounds, followed with an 8-4 decision over No. 22 Clayton Whiting.
The second top-10 matchup of the night came at 184 pounds, with No. 4 Max McEnelly battling No. 8 Gabe Arnold. After a scoreless first period, each wrestler logged an escape to send the match to sudden victory. In the extra frame, McEnelly scored on a re-attack, grabbing Arnold’s left leg and rolling him over before securing the takedown. The victory moves McEnelly to 18-0 on the year and 33-0, including his redshirt season a year ago. He’s 6-0 against ranked opponents, highlighted by a 3-0 mark against top-10 opponents.


The final top-10 match came at 197 pounds, with eighth-ranked Isaiah Salazar falling to No. 1 Stephen Buchanan, 5-1. The match was tied 1-1 late in the third, though Buchanan had the riding time point locked before he clinched the win with a short-time takedown.
Fittingly, the dual closed out at heavyweight with top-ranked Gable Steveson competing in his final match at Maturi Pavilion. Steveson did what he’s done all season in a dominant 19-3, first-period tech fall over No. 11 Ben Kueter. Steveson posted four takedowns in the period, gaining nearfall points on his second and third takedowns. The win, which was the 30th career tech fall win for Steveson and the first tech fall loss for Kueter, moves Steveson to 11-0 on the year and 96-2 in the Maroon and Gold. Steveson finishes with an unblemished career dual record at 59-0, including 44-0 in the Big Ten. He’s won 63 straight matches, two off second place in Gopher annals.
With the dual season now concluded, Minnesota will begin preparations for the Big Ten Championships, which will take place March 8-9 in Evanston, Illinois.
Feb. 14, 2025 | Minneapolis | Maturi Pavilion | Attendance: 5,307
#3 Iowa 23, #7 Minnesota 11

125 #26 Joey Cruz (IOWA) dec. #13 Cooper Flynn (MINN) 7-4 SV1
133 #3 Drake Ayala (IOWA) dec. #19 Tyler Wells (MINN) 9-5
141 #8 Vance VomBaur (MINN) dec. Cullan Schriever (IOWA), 14-10
149 #3 Kyle Parco (IOWA) dec. #29 Drew Roberts (MINN) 5-0
157 #3 Jacori Teemer (IOWA) dec. #8 Tommy Askey (MINN) 4-1
165 #2 Michael Caliendo (IOWA) TF #11 Andrew Sparks (MINN) 21-5 (6:09)
174 #11 Patrick Kennedy (IOWA) dec. #22 Clayton Whiting (MINN) 8-4
184 #4 Max McEnelly (MINN) dec. #8 Gabe Arnold (IOWA), 4-1 SV1
197 #1 Stephen Buchanan (IOWA) dec. #8 Isaiah Salazar (MINN) 5-1
285 #1 Gable Steveson (MINN) TF #11 Ben Kueter (IOWA), 19-3 (2:51)
 
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The Man posted (in italics below) this on the the_guillotine_forum
I think he could be correct that Sparks thought he was getting backs, maybe?
Also, if you look back, Their predictions, like ours, ran a little rosy colored in the early part of the week.

TheMan:
Well, disappointing. But realistically most people said 6-4, Iowa. It went 7-3 and Flynn wrestled like crap. The rest isn’t that surprising.

I actually thought Wells got a nice takedown on a guy that might be the 1 seed at NCAAs, certainly will be at big 10s. He can fight there. Whiting battled against Kennedy in a match that I kind of thought we could get majored in. Salazar I thought wrestled well against the current #1 ranked guy. Askey was right there with a national finalist. And Roberts just was outgunned.

So honestly outside of Flynn, and a weird 10 point exchange in Sparks match that I almost think he thought he was scoring, really not much that we should be too disappointed in.

I get it though, it sucks that we think we’re close and can’t seem to break through and actually get an upset win in some of these matches though.
 
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His losses are to #4 McEnelly and #7 Pinto. He has beaten #11 Smith, #12 Ruth and #18 Rogotzke. Starcocci and Keckeisen top 2 by far. Then Plott, McEnelly, Berge, and Foca are 3-6. He's going to have to beat someone of that caliber to AA most likely.
Pinto? Pinto isn't even in the same weight class as Arnold, right?
 
Especially considering part of his pro career was in wrestling that he was paid for. Can a football player go NFL for a year and then return to their college to play again?
I would be surprised if the NCAA actually considers pro wrestling to be a real competitive sport, like it does amateur wrestling.

For decades it's been viewed as sports theater and mock combat. Simply put, it's not real.
 
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Pinto? Pinto isn't even in the same weight class as Arnold, right?
If he wasn't calling out Starroci I am not sure there would be this much conversation. But you can't call him out while wrestling up a weight and then have 3 losses, 4 OT matches, and a decision against Bellarmine
 
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