Does that mean jNWN m forfeit their games in the next 10 days becaus they are all in quarantine?
to be safe and ensure the traveling party, janitors, airlines, etc etc are all safe…
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to be safe and ensure the traveling party, janitors, airlines, etc etc are all safe…
Is it? Again, the Big East canceled a UConn Women’s game against DePaul because they only had 6 healthy players. I don’t know the official Big Ten stance/rule on this. Not sure how/why you think it’s reasonable for a team with 6-7 player’s total and maybe 4-5 of them walk ons to be expected to go play? It’s ridiculous on so many levels.
No fool.
They have a player with COVID so he can't play. They play with someone else or they forfeit. They have walk ons I assume.
Is that what Big Ten rules say or are you making that up because that’s what you want to happen?
Joking mostly, but why couldn't Iowa be mired in a huuuge slump right now?
Just about everyone would be celebrating the fact they wouldn't have to watch them play tomorrow night.
Would have been nice if the Hawks could have kept riding the mo' wave to try and make it 5 straight tomorrow night, but it is what it is.
Just about everyone would be celebrating the fact they wouldn't have to watch them play tomorrow night.
Would have been nice if the Hawks could have kept riding the mo' wave to try and make it 5 straight tomorrow night, but it is what it is.
And I may be wrong, so anyone can correct me, but players only get tested for covid when they feel like crap.
And it sounds like there were many Northwestern players feeling like crap, where they tested positive, and, by the rules, they don't have enough players to currently field a team.
But, hey, lets have 4 pages of OUTRAGE and DEMANDS that Northwestern forfeit.
And, if the same thing happens at Iowa, IOWA DOES NOT FORFEIT. Different rules for us!
Maybe you can explain to us how many players, staff, arena workers, and fans that would be in attendance at the game have co morbidities.
I'd expect Northwestern is in a COVID protocol as a team. Very well could have additional players test positive in the coming days. Keep them away from our guys.
I can't believe you guys want this game to go forward. It has zero upside for Iowa.
Also, you act like we've moved past COVID when we are actually in the midst of a resurgence. They've blocked travel from/to certain parts of the world again it's so bad. Certainly likely less deaths to come from it than a couple years ago but it doesn't mean there will be zero and it certainly doesn't mean we wouldn't be effed if a couple of our players contracted it.
Didn't Uncle Joe say if you're vaxxed you won't have Covid, and it's the virus of the unvaxxed?
They're all vaxxed so how did they get Covid?
And I'm sure you're vaxxed so you can't get Covid either, correct?
Listen, fool.
They have a player with covid?? Just one?
You don't know how many Northwestern players have tested positive. You also don't know the rules related to covid and to when a team has enough players to play.
But keep pretending like you know what you are talking about.
Stop being reasonable. It’s ruining this thread. I demand if Northwestern doesn’t have enough guys Collins suits up plus some assistant coaches and they grab a couple of ballers from the streets of Chicago. There is no pushing back the schedule and ruining our chances at the final 4!
I thought we had some dumb asses on the board but you’re definitely in the top 5.
But you know Collins would go off for 40 with 13 threes because...Iowa curse.
So you’re unable to answer the question on those dying FROM or WITH CoVid…? got it, troll on with someone else..
the game should be a forfeit, that’s what most are saying
I don’t know what covid rules NWN or the BIG is following…
Iowa is without question being disadvantaged by NWN not meeting their obligations
NWN should be penalized with a forfeit if they forfeit their obligation to play.
Then cancel and Forfeit because you don’t have the players. That seems so simple and remedial
Not sure why rules would be any different for COVID. They don't have enough guys...they should forfeit. It isn't hard.
Quit playing Kangaroo Court Lawyer.
I'm able to answer the questions of whether:
1. Some people die when they contract COVID. Yes
2. Iowa players would be able to play subsequent games if they contacted COVID. No
That's all you need to know. Instead you let your politics override common sense. That's what it boils down to.
One seemingly healthy, one that yes was a bit heavy not obese(probably like a lot of poster), one was frail and elderly. No reason any would have passed at this time w/o Covid. All of their lives valued. There you have…trust me, no one wishes this over more than the people still dealing with it. There you have it
I think I agree w/you. I said IF rescheduled, Iowa shouldn’t be disadvantaged…or more clearly? Put at a disadvantage
And your narrative on covid 19 deaths , when challenged, continue to devolve into broad generalities.
how is calling for a forfeit becuse NWN can’t play the game political? It’s not.
why you continue the narrative that IOWA must play , when all here are saying forfeit? because it fits your covid political narrative?
this is not political, rather NWN not being able to meet these obligations, and injuring Iowa but requiring 3 games in 5 days vs 2 games in 5 days. it’s so obviously simple to understand , especially when you remove the covid19 narratives.
NW is going to have to forfeit now somewhere along the line. One game to make up is doable. 2 or more? Not as much.
Two things on this topic:
1. Word on the street is that Northwestern had (5) players test positive,.. So given that they're also down (1) man on the normal (13) man roster, they should have (7) remaining scholarship players available to take the floor.
2. It's common knowledge that people can and frequently do contract and transmit the covid virus while simultaneously displaying no noticeable symptoms. In my estimation this virus is already present at every Big Ten basketball game, on the floor and in the locker room.
1. Word on the street is that Northwestern had (5) players test positive,.. So given that they're also down (1) man on the normal (13) man roster, they should have (7) remaining scholarship players available to take the floor.
2. It's common knowledge that people can and frequently do contract and transmit the covid virus while simultaneously displaying no noticeable symptoms. In my estimation this virus is already present at every Big Ten basketball game, on the floor and in the locker room.
Not quite. Northwestern has 13 players on the roster. Two of them are walk-ons, and one of them was a walk-on who was given a scholarship over last summer because he is a valuable practice contributor and NU had an extra one to give. So NU has only ten true scholarship players. One of those, freshman Luke Hunger, is out for the season with an injury. That leaves nine true scholarship players. Depending on which players have COVID, it is possible that NU has between four and seven true scholarship players available.
But you’ve nit detailed the missing component FROM CoVid or WITH CoVid.
my colleague recently had severe sepsis from a surgery and nearly passed, he tested positive for CoVid while in hospital care, his near passing from sepsis with CoVid is, not from CoVid, however that’s what the narrative here is leading us to believe. 100% of those that die WITH covid die FROM covid, and that’s simply not correct and is doin a disservice to all.
Again a. # clinically positive (symptoms) b. # asymptomatic positive c. # in close contact with a and b (that need quarantine) d. # with previous infection with natural immunity (which could be any an all of a, b, and c )
agree on 1. However there is the entire close contact quarantine rule.
agree on 2. Does this therefore mean testing of all players before all games and then cancelling all games where there is a single player with covid?
2-0. Helps are defensive average. Give up 80 points next game and defensive average for last 2 games is 40 points.😉
I would bet it won't be a forfeit. It won't be counted as a win or loss for either team.....just a no contest.
And those of you engaging in a COVID p*ssing match.......take it to the off topic board.
So basically in the end Iowa will get penalized for a NW problem.
It helps Iowa's Big Ten standings and that's it. It doesn't have any effect on tournament consideration.
Think it through logically. What is the committee supposed to record it as, a true Q2 win? What happens if this was a game for a team @Purdue and PU had the covid forfeiture? Do you really think that team should get the value of a road win against a top 5 team?
Now flip the shoes, if Iowa were in the position where they had a covid outbreak and were playing Minnesota and it forced a forfeit, do you really think the committee should assign that as a Q4 loss?
The most equitable thing is to just not count the game-that effects essentially 2 teams. If they count is as an actual win/loss for the 2 teams that has an effect on every single possible tournament team and bubble team.
Are you one of those idiots that thinks the only negative side effect of 'rona we should be concerned about is death? There are plenty of other adverse effects that can last years that we barely understand. We just need to ignore those and focus only on death?
With the Wisconsin game in doubt now, I really don't see a way that NW can make both games up if it is in fact postponed. Not trying to penalize anyone but it falls on NW and both of these games should be FF. Think about it if the Wisky game is postponed and NW agrees to make up one but not the other?!?!? That's an even bigger problem frankly.
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