Iowa vs Alabama
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If you think Wisconsin should have played in that title game you are not very intelligent
yah.... Oklahoma State was also 11-1 and Oklahoma State won their Conference...
Alabama was 11-1 and did not even win their Division, let alone their Conference.
but I believe Wisconsin was most deserving because they won the Big Ten Conference Championship game.
no no... I think Wisconsin deserved to be in that game... Wisconsin had a strong team that year... and... I will never root for an SEC team over a Big Ten team.
ESPN hasn't brainwashed me into worshiping the SEC.
How does a 2 loss team deserve to be in a title game over a 1 loss Big 12 team?
I'm not even sure what to say now. While I do know what each of these words mean individually, when you string them together like this I'm not sure what you're even saying.
But again, this is an embarrassment of a thread to have on our board.
I understand that... different match up... different results...
but my point is... they deserved to be in that game, moreso than a team that did not even win their Division...
I don't think its fair to the young men who compete and win Conference Championships that they are denied that opportunity...
and then to give that opportunity to a team that did not even win their Division?
I don't think its fair to those young men who won Conference Championship Titles...
Whether it be Wisconsin, Oregon, Clemson, or Oklahoma State.
it was not a fair situation.
Wasn't there a year where OSU and UM were #1 and #2 and Michigan barely got beat, why didn't Michigan get to play OSU in the national championship? Oh right they had already played each other.
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last year we had 2 teams that had one loss to the same team.
Iowa 12-1
Ohio State 11-1
using that same logic as 2011.... the Big Ten should have had 3 teams in the College Playoffs.
Brett Bielema at Arkansas has had good success against LSU. Play tough, physical defense, stack against the run and dare the qb to beat you. LSU has struggled at the qb spot the past few years and the position is their big question mark again this year. Wouldn't shock me if the badgers give them a helluva game
Yes, especially when that 'one loss' big xii team lost to one of the poorest major college programs in the country.
So every time Iowa loses to that program that don't deserve to go to a good bowl game or anything if they have a good season?
Oh no... If there's anyone here who understands trolling, it's CyCity!
Experiencing trouble with the English language again?
And, to answer whatever you were attempting to type, the question was regarding the national championship game not a "good bowl game or anything..." . You would be the expert on trolling and this is just one more example of that.
I thought I remember Hawkeye fans saying Iowa deserved a shot at the National Title in 2002
Don't be a total fool. That attempt to pull something, anything out of thin air is dumb.
Did Iowa appear in anything considered a national (mythical) title game in 2002?
Alabama beat the Big10 champ 38-0. Let me repeat, Alabama beat the Big10 Champ 38-0. They did not play another game during the whole 2016 season- Big 5 conf or Div 15- winning 38-0. Ole Miss beat them at home. As I remember Iowa lost a close game to MSU. Alabama did not beat ONE team during the 2016 as bad as they beat MSU, the Big10 champ. Please stop with the" they are the only good team in the SEC." LSU has produced more NFL players then the whole Big10 combined . Since 1995 the SEC has won 10 National Championships- Florida x 2, Tennessee, LSU x 2, Auburn and Alabama x 4. Since 1995 the Big10 has won 3 National Championships- Michigan, and OSU x 2. The SEC is way more the just one team. Big10 pretty much just OSU and 1 other random team. The SEC has Vandy and UK. The Big10 has Indiana, Illinois, Northwestern, Minnesota, Rutgers, Maryland, Purdue, Iowa, Nebraska, and Michigan. Please stop trying to compare with the SEC- Big Boy League vs little boy league.
Does not help your straw man argument here at all.
Realizing full well that this will soar completely over any ability you have to comprehend, the two situations are as different as can be. In Oklahoma States case, they were fairly highly ranked coming into the 2011 season. The Cowpokes rose to #3 on AP following week 8 (October 23rd), but did not reach that level until week 10 in the Coaches' Poll. They proceeded to rise to #2 until the bottom fell out with the upset loss to isu (#83 in the hearts and minds of many). Following that loss, Okie State found itself no better than 5th in the AP (6th in both the Coaches' and Harris Interactive rankings) and any real opportunity for a national championship opportunity went south with those rankings.
Iowa, on the other hand, was not even on anyone's radar to begin 2002. The Hawkeyes' first rankings that season came week six when they where #24 in the AP Poll. The first glimpse for Iowa in the BCS ranking system came in week #9 (13th). From that first recognition through the season end, the Hawks rose steadily to #3 in the final regular season rankings in the AP and #5 in the BCS. Totally different trend line for the two teams that even would be apparent to the youngest fan with any real interest or knowledge.
Oklahoma State was deemed unworthy immediately following the isu game. Iowa sustained its loss to isu and then achieved its national recognition by playing and succeeding against teams that are not #83.
You said that one loss team didn't deserve to be in because they lost to one of the poorest major college programs in the country. Iowa did the same thing and fans said they deserved to be in. I don't know why it would matter when it happened, if you lose to one of the poorest major college programs in the country in week 1 or week 10 you still lost to one of the poorest major college programs in the country.
Like I initially said, this is way above your ability to either understand or set aside your bias. Either way it is okay with me.
The question from you was about that (unnamed "one loss" big xii team). I believe I have shown why that team was not considered for the national championship in 2011 - it was directly related to the upset loss to isu. That is what happens when a team loses to what is now recognized as the 83rd best team according to a reasonably objective source for purposes of this debate.
Your next tangent (straw man) was to try to equate that somehow with what you want to recall ("... some Iowa fans" said... Has nothing at all to do with Okie State being shunned from the national championship consideration. Further, I demonstrated specifically why some Iowa fans could have thought at the end of the 2002 regular season why Iowa might deserve a shot (nine consecutive wins to conclude that season).
Only you have difficulties seeing the difference. Troll away!
Anyone else think 15anddoh is kilRoy but he is really trying to avoid all the kilroy pitfalls? (Stats, rsfr,* etc)
For what it's worth I think the right teams played for the National Title in 2011. To say Wisconsin deserved to be in over both those teams or Oklahoma State though is just dumb
I like your enthusiasm, but you are definitely stretching to make an argument.
In regards to Alabama and their schedule. Until they are prevented from making the Bowl Playoff format because of their schedule, they will continue scheduling to have as many home games as possible against the only teams willing to play there (mostly crappying teams looking for money).
In regards to Alabama and their schedule. Until they are prevented from making the Bowl Playoff format because of their schedule, they will continue scheduling to have as many home games as possible against the only teams willing to play there (mostly crappying teams looking for money).
Schedule Comparison:
Alabama plays 3 non Power 5 teams:
W. Kentucky (12-2)
Kent St. (3-9)
Chattanooga (9-4) <<<<<<<< Division I-FCS
Alabama's only Power 5 non Conference game is against a 6 loss team a year ago.
of Alabama's 9 games against Power 5 teams...
only one team won 10 games a season ago.
Ole Miss (10-3)
Alabama avoids playing :
Florida (10-4)
Georgia (10-3)
{remember... the SEC only had four 10+ win teams a year ago
BigTen had six 10+ win teams a year ago}
Iowa, on the other hand, plays only 2 non Power 5 teams:
Miami of Ohio (3-9)
North Dakota State (13-2) five-time defending NCAA Division I-FCS National Champions (2011–2015)
Iowa plays 10 games against Power 5 teams.
Iowa plays 3 Power 5 teams who won 10 games a season ago.
Northwestern (10-3)
Wisconsin (10-3)
Michigan (10-3)
Summary:
Iowa plays a much more difficult schedule than Alabama.
the beautiful thing about the BigTen is that there are many teams that are capable of winning the Conference.
the SEC, on the other hand, only has one team.
the BigTen is far and away the most interesting of all conferences in College Football.
and with all the changes at the University of Iowa in the last couple years, there exists the possibility of a Big Ten Title run this season, as well as a National Championship Title run.
look at the upgrades and the personnel... look at the history... and look at who we have on the field for us this year.
No I didn't. I would have guessed they'd be a top 25 team and they ended up that way where this year I think they'll be a top 10 team at the end of the year
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