***Iowa vs Penn State WBB Game***
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To be fair, it is a big logo.
is this team starts hitting 3's with consistency again, I think we are talking about a possible..... @EvilMonkeyInTheCloset
Watch this amazing display:
Watch this amazing display:
107-79 final. Clark with 17 assists.
Iowa with 37 assists. Wow.
I'm glad we saved the triangle and 2 for the second half. Really shut them down and didn't give PSU the entire half time break to scheme about how to break it.
I'm also glad Clark didn't have a triple double tonight, because it meant the whole team was crashing the boards a lot better:
--9 rebounds for Monika
--7 each for Caitlin, Kate, and McKenna
Seeing this type of balance on the glass is a much better recipe for sustained success than hoping our PG can manage to grab 10+ by herself!
I'm also glad Clark didn't have a triple double tonight, because it meant the whole team was crashing the boards a lot better:
--9 rebounds for Monika
--7 each for Caitlin, Kate, and McKenna
Seeing this type of balance on the glass is a much better recipe for sustained success than hoping our PG can manage to grab 10+ by herself!
Is it crazy to think Clark could average 10+ assists per game by her senior year?
I was really glad to see lots of players contributing. McKenna played great tonight. Kate doesn't score a lot but she attacked the glass and dropped dimes. Tomi with some points late. Kylie attacking the basket.
The most important thing is there was very little standing around. Tonight there was movement on offense and for the most part defense as well. Guards were looking for steals. Even when we weren't getting turnovers, PSU was frustrated enough to be off balance.
We looked like a team tonight and not just the Clark and Monika show.
Wow! The announcers didn't mention this was a program record for us.
Hawks with a 4th straight conference road win and Caitlin with the regular season record for assists with 17. Hawks rounding into form, but still some work to do on defense.
It's crazy because defense in the 2nd and 3rd were complete opposite. Gave up 30 in the 2nd and 12 in the 3rd. Iowa switched from player to the 2-3 zone. We gave up points in the 4th but Bluder was subbing and our guards had trouble with the press. Kate came back in and then we were able to advance the ball. If Kate does not come back we will be in serious trouble if Clark is in foul trouble or out of the game late. Bluder might not like the portal but I"m not sure we have a choice. We could really use a grad transfer PG, preferably one with 2 years of eligibility. But I'll take a grad transfer and a freshman PG in the 23 class. If we don't get either then I'm praying McCabe has some serious handles cause we need someone to break the press.
Can we just play zone the whole game? Our zone has been money and our player is good until it's not. Bad switches on screens. Overhelping and missing close outs -- usually leading to us giving up wide open threes.
When we stick with 1-3-1 or 2-3 we might break down here and there but most of the time we're contesting. I mean I guess we need to keep playing player for the practice as there is vast room for improvement there.
On the bright side as the announcers pointed out we went from dead last to around 200th in total defense and when the offense is en fuego that equals Ws.
Was a little close at half but ended in an easy w. Hawks have really come out firing after half. Warnock was great!
It's not the 2-3 zone that was so effective tonight in the second -- it was the triangle and 2. And no we can't play it all the time because the more we play it, the less effective it becomes. Opponents will focus more on prepping for it, there will be more film out there, etc. It's most effective when used for only about 15 minutes of total game time to throw off teams who have 1 or 2 dominant scorers -- usually a PG and an athletic wing, or a PG and a shooter. Trying to play it all game would be like trying to run the same few set plays on offense. After a few possessions, they're no longer as effective.
Czinano has beening rebounding much better recently, a very good sign. She's close to getting 10 rebounds for several games now.
The whole team is rebounding better. I think the NW loss and the 1st half at Nebraska really woke the team up. SInce the start of the 2nd half at Nebraska you can see there is a different intensity. 3 of the starters with 7 and Monika with 9 tonight.
That's been the deal with Bluder teams these last couple seasons.
Taking on more of an identity similar to the men..........
Recruiting is about the only thing that'll remedy that on the women's side.
I think that's pushing it only because if Clark is averaging 10 rebounds per game we likely have even worse team rebounding issues than now.
Hawkeyes roar past Nittany Lions
When you’re on a team on a roll, you can be pretty unstoppable and Lisa Bluder’s squad is pretty unstoppable right now.
Penn State threw a lot at Iowa in the first half and played a pretty good half. Picked it up in the second half and did what was expected.
3 players with 20+, Warnock career high, Clark single game assist record, Marshall 4 3pt makes
For Nat'l POY Aliyah Boston at South Carolina is being talked about a lot. Caitlin is definitely in the conversation & the more Iowa wins her standing will rise for those awards. She will probably win several PG/G of the year awards with Bueckers missing so much time at UCONN.
How can Barta keep such bad coaches in all our sports? For half the money he could just get 10 people off this site and we could win every game we play in? We need to fire Barta... 😇
come on. The criticism here of Bluder is very mild. Poster pointed out one thing with whether or not a player comes back in with fouls. It's a reasonable opinion. Sorry if I missed the sarcasm meter.
Seriously, coaches are not robots, they do make mistakes. In the moment, making a quick decision on whether or not to bring back in a player with 2 fouls is not a 100% slam dunk decision. And we posters have the benefit of hindsight and facing no consequences for our opinion.
And much of that is from a few posters who are negative in general
Coach Bluder is great. She certainly knows more about basketball than I ever will.
I do somewhat disagree with her two foul policy, though. Generally, she tends to
bench a player with 2 fouls for the remainder of the half. In my opinion that sacrifices momentum in the first half for the relatively small chance that a player will foul out and miss the final few minutes of the game (Clark finished the game with 3 fouls).
The situation last night was a great example of when keeping a player in was relatively low risk with a high reward. We were up 10 on Penn State with just over a minute left. It was a textbook 2 for 1 opportunity. Bleed the clock down, get a decent shot, play defense for a single possession, take the final shot of the half. At worst in that scenario you give up 1 basket to your opponent, while still having a shot at two yourselves. You ensure yourself at worst a 7 point halftime lead.
Instead, we took Clark out, and the offense turned the ball over on both possessions. Penn State actually got two possessions because of the quick turnovers, and trimmed our 10 point lead down to 5. They were right back in the game with momentum.
If Clark was in the game instead, we probably don't turn the ball over on the first possession. She's generally very good at managing 2 for 1 scenarios when she knows we're in them. Her risk of a third foul would also be fairly minimal given only one defensive possession and the extremely minor chance of an offensive foul.
Is this hindsight bias? To an extent. Coach Bluder didn't know the offense without Clark would turn it over twice. But two for ones and decisions about when to leave a player in are also things you can plan for in advance. I hope if we get into a similar situation in the future that Clark stays in.
The final few minutes of the game showed it and Clark had to be put back in, and later Martin. Probably wouldn't have mattered much with a 30-point lead but didn't want a bad momentum going into the next game.
That's been a pretty glaring issue the last few games. When all the backups are in, they are struggling significantly to even get into the offense. It's making the time they are getting close to useless, because it's not really a game scenario.
Feuerbach has generally done okay as the backup PG when we have some of the starters still in, but has struggled with the backups only. I think there is justification to keep Clark (or Martin) in later in games just so the backups actually get worthwhile reps for a while. That does expose them to further injury risk, though.
I can't think of any college team, men or women, ever, when all 5 backups were in during "mop-up" time, who looked like a smooth well oiled machine. Doesn't happen so I cut them a little bit of slack.
The whole problem is we only have one ball handler on the team, Clark. The last time that we had two ball handlers was three seasons ago, with Tania Davis and Kathleen Doyle. My old ball coach always said, guards are ball handlers and ball handlers don't turn the ball over. Plus when Penn St. put on the pressure nobody outside of Clark new how to handle it. You don't pick up your dribble unless you have some place to throw it. Also when you cross mid-court you don't stop and you stay away from the corners, side line, and base line so you don't get trapped. Also when they come with the double team you either need to get moving or pass it before they can put the double team on. Also it helps if your team mates know how to brake the press. This is as much a coaching problem as a recruiting problem. Good thing this happened with a thirty point lead and not with a ten point lead.
Probably, but some of these away stats people struggle, so I’m not shocked.
After watching the video, it looks like it was a third quarter assist that got missed. Just basing it off the numbers I had.
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From the video, Clark now had 11 assists in the first half. Was 10 before. So it had to be an assist in the first half.
Martin and Marshall can handle the ball. Marshall was the backup PG as a freshman and switched to 2 guard when Doyle/Meyer graduated as we added Clark. I think the solution is play Taiwo more early so Marshall/Martin can be available to run the point late. Taiwo can sub the 2 or 3 and just slide over. Bluder needs to let her play longer stretches. She can handle 16-20 minutes a game or more. She and Kylie can both sub the 2-4 and maybe free up Marshall/Martin to rotate games playing the point in late game situations so we can give our forwards more experience.
Syd should never be in a position where she has to play the point unless we are insane foul trouble. It will get a little better next year with McCabe but we still could use a transfer portal guard.
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