agreed - outside of some criminal past, no way can Beth can stop KF from hiring any (non-family) coach that interviews.....
He was the play caller at Western Michigan when he was HC.Lester doesn’t even satisfy the requirements that were listed for the job!!!! He has ONE season calling plays at Syracuse. ONE!!!! For the fist time in KF’s tenure I am going to say FU!
Can someone post the requirements for consideration?
**** you dickhead
He was the play caller at Western Michigan when he was HC.
The last year was bad, but the other pretty good.
Guess which one angry message board posters will focus on?
LMAO! Is that Beth - second row, far left!?!??!Iowa fans respond to the hire.
In 6 years as a Head Coach, WMU scored the following: 14, 17 and 13 vs Mich St; 3 and 14 vs Mich; 18 vs BYU; 33 vs Syracuse; and 13 and 44 vs Pitt. The rest of their games were MAC level.Western Michigan Historical Scores
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Seems to have scored a lot of point @ WMU 🤷♂️
Honestly it could've been a lot worse. The hire doesn't look that great on paper but it doesn't necessarily look bad either. Who knows how it'll turn out. At least he isn't some 70+ year old like GDGD was. I'm willing to see how it goes and if I see small and incremental progress year to year, I'll be satisfied with that.
FIFY. He has adapted before..but only after losing seasons.I mean I get it. Gotta give the guy a chance and see what he can produce. But there were so many other more appealing and successful candidates. KF just WON'T adapt.
They are young enough to get them to be a fan of a different team that has a chance to win titles.My boys (7&5) can tell something is upsetting me and I just don't have the heart to tell them. How do I explain what just happened to my children?
Well Philly fans are the worst. They want to fire every coach and ran a good coach doug Peterson out of town shortly after winning a Super Bowl.
Wow! We hired him away from Troy? He might want to think twice about that decision.
He was the play caller at Western Michigan when he was HC.
The last year was bad, but the other pretty good.
Guess which one angry osters nicely posted a breakdown of his offensive
KJ's numbers were nicely posted by some on here so we could drool over, hopefully someone can post Lester's offensive numbers? SIAP. Not able to research at the moment.He was the play caller at Western Michigan when he was HC.
The last year was bad, but the other pretty good.
Guess which one angry message board posters will focus on?
Ya and they were in the MAC.. so they had MAC level talent..In 6 years as a Head Coach, WMU scored the following: 14, 17 and 13 vs Mich St; 3 and 14 vs Mich; 18 vs BYU; 33 vs Syracuse; and 13 and 44 vs Pitt. The rest of their games were MAC level.
You don’t want to see people complain on a message board, do something else like jerk off to a KF poster.I couldn’t have scripted a better day. I’ll confess much to the chagrin of my buddy @EvilMonkeyInTheCloset
I sometimes do take super negative bitchy tripe personally & I don’t care for many of you guys. I honestly find you a drain on society and your brand of bitching useless and even damaging…
****, we all hate losing, we all hate the fact that KF is stubborn and has allowed our offense to be so shitty but most of us and yes, you’re a small minority, understand the totality of the big picture…
You guys do not, and you cannot keep from constantly bitching about it. I don’t have any friends like you and I have lots of friends And whether I want to or not, I have to go to lots and lots of outings and family functions etc. every now and then we have a group of people that show that are super negative bastards like you but very rarely…we don’t associate with people like that ….
So thank you for telling me off….it makes my day. I’d be upset if you called me a friend. I don’t have friends like you.
I credit BG for giving KF the opportunity to either fix this or make his own bed. She let it be his call, and he clearly chose to make his bed instead. I just hope he doesn’t drag the whole program down with him, and I have to trust she will do the right thing before that happens.I cannot believe BG approved this hire knowing the issues with KF's offense. That is disappointing and a bad look on her control of the Athletic Department. This hire brings no excitement nor enthusiasm for the football program or the fan base. Just don't understand. We fans sure hoped for much better.
What do you know about Lester that makes this such a bad hire?I credit BG for giving KF the opportunity to either fix this or make his own bed. She let it be his call, and he clearly chose to make his bed instead. I just hope he doesn’t drag the whole program down with him, and I have to trust she will do the right thing before that happens.
He ran out of candidates because he is not going to let candidates run the offense. It is that effing simple.Last sentence could say it all. I really don't think Kirk would sabotage his career in this way
I think he may have run out of candidates.
Look at his resume. Underwhelming.What do you know about Lester that makes this such a bad hire?
5 straight years with a top 40 scoring offense, peaking as high as 9th. Think we could do worseLook at his resume. Underwhelming.
Yes. Much more underwhelming than the other guy he had in his lap. I hope to God Johns doesn't excel in whatever he does next.Look at his resume. Underwhelming.
Worse record at WM than Fleck. Fired in final year. Someone at GB did him a favor knowing it was a one year gig. He was already going to be OC at Troy. He had to vacate wins at a previous program for issues.What do you know about Lester that makes this such a bad hire?
Assistant Regional Manager? No, Assistant to the Regional ManagerHe ran out of candidates because he is not going to let candidates run the offense. It is that effing simple.
I’d like to see him land in the Big Ten.Yes. Much more underwhelming than the other guy he had in his lap. I hope to God Johns doesn't excel in whatever he does next.
Sounds great! 😉Worse record at WM than Fleck. Fired in final year. Someone at GB did him a favor knowing it was a one year gig. He was already going to be OC at Troy. He had to vacate wins at a previous program for issues.
I'm guessing Johns turned it down and Lester was the only guy left who came in under budget. It's a poverty hire plain and simple. That and Kirk being unwilling to cede any control on offense. This is flat out embarrassing for a P4 school coming off a conference championship appearance. We're still a national joke, fellas.How did Lester over John’s make sense at all
Unfortunately, yes, you are correct. I'm definitely not excited for the hire at all but just hoping I'm wrong (I don't think I will be though). This will probably be the last hire for a coordinator position that KF has to make so if it goes badly, which is very, very possible, it'll be an easier transition for people to move on from KF. That time is already coming up. I'm hoping KF retires at least within the next three years or so. I'd like it to be this year honestly but I can wait it out. What I don't want to see is KF still here in a decade. Man, that'd be a nightmare.The reason everyone is angry is because KF has absolutely 0 credibility when it comes to making this hire. He has nose dived this offense into the grown and his son would probably still be coach if Beth wouldn't have fired him. He has been wrong way more times than he has been right when it comes to offense, QBS, WR use etc.
So when people say well lets give this guy a chance. No thank you. There is absolutely nothing to string any sort of hope on for KF. ESPECIALLY a hire that took forever, the top candidate (Chryst) saying no thanks, and hiring a guy that literally has never accomplished anything significant in Big Boy college football. I 100% expect this to be a total disaster.
The only real hope I see is that I do believe the new AD Beth Goetz has the balls to tell KF it is time to move on.
Yeah, but I mean other than THAT, what makes you think this will be a bad hire?Worse record at WM than Fleck. Fired in final year. Someone at GB did him a favor knowing it was a one year gig. He was already going to be OC at Troy. He had to vacate wins at a previous program for issues.
Not according to Hawk Central.He was the play caller at Western Michigan when he was HC.
The last year was bad, but the other pretty good.
Guess which one angry message board posters will focus on?
I doubt anyone on this board knows how these decisions are made in the football program. I’d like to think the HC makes his hires without having to have them approved by his boss. That is the way it always worked for me and others in a number of Fortune 500 companies I worked for. I would hope this was his decision alone, and he’ll have to live with it.So your saying, the 20%-ers hero, big Ball Beth, let KF do his own thing….
Explain that if you will. She was no longer going to “let” KF do what he wanted…..😂😂😂😂
That didn’t last long then….
and Johns had multiple years at (4) P2 schools and put up better numbers, so there's that for comparison.Ya and they were in the MAC.. so they had MAC level talent..
He isn’t coming to be the head coach and had 5 straight top 40 offenses when he was calling plays.Yeah, but I mean other than THAT, what makes you think this will be a bad hire?
‘Less than meaningless’ similar to ‘could care less’I hope you realize Beth would find ANY input from you less than meaningless. Something not even worth laughing about…
I’ve found it cute all the people around here cheering her on….Your thoughts are futile 😳