NYT editorial board just called for him to drop out of race for good of the country.
It’s over for Biden
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Don’t be so sure. This is a big deal and will snow ball.
I pray he drops out. Trump is a dangerous maniac. Biden belongs in a nursing home. Nation can't afford to risk Trump turning America into Nazi Germany.
General election hasn't even officially started. Dems have time.
Unless Joe drops out willingly it ain’t happening.
I don’t think Joe will do that.
Do I have to do everything around here? Where's Cig when you need him?
OPINION
THE EDITORIAL BOARD
By The Editorial Board
The editorial board is a group of opinion journalists whose views are informed by expertise, research, debate and certain longstanding values. It is separate from the newsroom.
President Biden has repeatedly and rightfully described the stakes in this November’s presidential election as nothing less than the future of American democracy.
Donald Trump has proved himself to be a significant jeopardy to that democracy — an erratic and self-interested figure unworthy of the public trust. He systematically attempted to undermine the integrity of elections. His supporters have described, publicly, a 2025 agenda that would give him the power to carry out the most extreme of his promises and threats. If he is returned to office, he has vowed to be a different kind of president, unrestrained by the checks on power built into the American political system.
Mr. Biden has said that he is the candidate with the best chance of taking on this threat of tyranny and defeating it. His argument rests largely on the fact that he beat Mr. Trump in 2020. That is no longer a sufficient rationale for why Mr. Biden should be the Democratic nominee this year.
At Thursday’s debate, the president needed to convince the American public that he was equal to the formidable demands of the office he is seeking to hold for another term. Voters, however, cannot be expected to ignore what was instead plain to see: Mr. Biden is not the man he was four years ago.
The president appeared on Thursday night as the shadow of a great public servant. He struggled to explain what he would accomplish in a second term. He struggled to respond to Mr. Trump’s provocations. He struggled to hold Mr. Trump accountable for his lies, his failures and his chilling plans. More than once, he struggled to make it to the end of a sentence.
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Mr. Biden has been an admirable president. Under his leadership, the nation has prospered and begun to address a range of long-term challenges, and the wounds ripped open by Mr. Trump have begun to heal. But the greatest public service Mr. Biden can now perform is to announce that he will not continue to run for re-election.
As it stands, the president is engaged in a reckless gamble. There are Democratic leaders better equipped to present clear, compelling and energetic alternatives to a second Trump presidency. There is no reason for the party to risk the stability and security of the country by forcing voters to choose between Mr. Trump’s deficiencies and those of Mr. Biden. It’s too big a bet to simply hope Americans will overlook or discount Mr. Biden’s age and infirmity that they see with their own eyes.
If the race comes down to a choice between Mr. Trump and Mr. Biden, the sitting president would be this board’s unequivocal pick. That is how much of a danger Mr. Trump poses. But given that very danger, the stakes for the country and the uneven abilities of Mr. Biden, the United States needs a stronger opponent to the presumptive Republican nominee. To make a call for a new Democratic nominee this late in a campaign is a decision not taken lightly, but it reflects the scale and seriousness of Mr. Trump’s challenge to the values and institutions of this country and the inadequacy of Mr. Biden to confront him.
Ending his candidacy would be against all of Mr. Biden’s personal and political instincts. He has picked himself up from tragedies and setbacks in the past and clearly believes he can do so again. Supporters of the president are already explaining away Thursday’s debate as one data point compared with three years of accomplishments. But the president’s performance cannot be written off as a bad night or blamed on a supposed cold, because it affirmed concerns that have been mounting for months or even years. Even when Mr. Biden tried to lay out his policy proposals, he stumbled. It cannot be outweighed by other public appearances because he has limited and carefully controlled his public appearances.
It should be remembered that Mr. Biden challenged Mr. Trump to this verbal duel. He set the rules, and he insisted on a date months earlier than any previous general election debate. He understood that he needed to address longstanding public concerns about his mental acuity and that he needed to do so as soon as possible.
The truth Mr. Biden needs to confront now is that he failed his own test.
In polls and interviews, voters say they are seeking fresh voices to take on Mr. Trump. And the consolation for Mr. Biden and his supporters is that there is still time to rally behind a different candidate. While Americans are conditioned to the long slog of multiyear presidential elections, in many democracies, campaigns are staged in the space of a few months.
It is a tragedy that Republicans themselves are not engaged in deeper soul-searching after Thursday’s debate. Mr. Trump’s own performance ought to be regarded as disqualifying. He lied brazenly and repeatedly about his own actions, his record as president and his opponent. He described plans that would harm the American economy, undermine civil liberties and fray America’s relationships with other nations. He refused to promise that he would accept defeat, returning instead to the kind of rhetoric that incited the Jan. 6 attack on Congress.
The Republican Party, however, has been co-opted by Mr. Trump’s ambitions. The burden rests on the Democratic Party to put the interests of the nation above the ambitions of a single man.
Democrats who have deferred to Mr. Biden must now find the courage to speak plain truths to the party’s leader. The confidantes and aides who have encouraged the president’s candidacy, and who sheltered him from unscripted appearances in public, should recognize the damage to Mr. Biden’s standing and the unlikelihood that he can repair it.
Mr. Biden answered an urgent question on Thursday night. It was not the answer that he and his supporters were hoping for. But if the risk of a second Trump term is as great as he says it is — and we agree with him that the danger is enormous — then his dedication to this country leaves him and his party only one choice.
The clearest path for Democrats to defeat a candidate defined by his lies is to deal truthfully with the American public: acknowledge that Mr. Biden can’t continue his race, and create a process to select someone more capable to stand in his place to defeat Mr. Trump in November.
It is the best chance to protect the soul of the nation — the cause that drew Mr. Biden to run for the presidency in 2019 — from the malign warping of Mr. Trump. And it is the best service that Mr. Biden can provide to a country that he has nobly served for so long.
OPINION
THE EDITORIAL BOARD
To Serve His Country, President Biden Should Leave the Race
June 28, 2024, 5:59 p.m. ETBy The Editorial Board
The editorial board is a group of opinion journalists whose views are informed by expertise, research, debate and certain longstanding values. It is separate from the newsroom.
President Biden has repeatedly and rightfully described the stakes in this November’s presidential election as nothing less than the future of American democracy.
Donald Trump has proved himself to be a significant jeopardy to that democracy — an erratic and self-interested figure unworthy of the public trust. He systematically attempted to undermine the integrity of elections. His supporters have described, publicly, a 2025 agenda that would give him the power to carry out the most extreme of his promises and threats. If he is returned to office, he has vowed to be a different kind of president, unrestrained by the checks on power built into the American political system.
Mr. Biden has said that he is the candidate with the best chance of taking on this threat of tyranny and defeating it. His argument rests largely on the fact that he beat Mr. Trump in 2020. That is no longer a sufficient rationale for why Mr. Biden should be the Democratic nominee this year.
At Thursday’s debate, the president needed to convince the American public that he was equal to the formidable demands of the office he is seeking to hold for another term. Voters, however, cannot be expected to ignore what was instead plain to see: Mr. Biden is not the man he was four years ago.
The president appeared on Thursday night as the shadow of a great public servant. He struggled to explain what he would accomplish in a second term. He struggled to respond to Mr. Trump’s provocations. He struggled to hold Mr. Trump accountable for his lies, his failures and his chilling plans. More than once, he struggled to make it to the end of a sentence.
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Mr. Biden has been an admirable president. Under his leadership, the nation has prospered and begun to address a range of long-term challenges, and the wounds ripped open by Mr. Trump have begun to heal. But the greatest public service Mr. Biden can now perform is to announce that he will not continue to run for re-election.
As it stands, the president is engaged in a reckless gamble. There are Democratic leaders better equipped to present clear, compelling and energetic alternatives to a second Trump presidency. There is no reason for the party to risk the stability and security of the country by forcing voters to choose between Mr. Trump’s deficiencies and those of Mr. Biden. It’s too big a bet to simply hope Americans will overlook or discount Mr. Biden’s age and infirmity that they see with their own eyes.
If the race comes down to a choice between Mr. Trump and Mr. Biden, the sitting president would be this board’s unequivocal pick. That is how much of a danger Mr. Trump poses. But given that very danger, the stakes for the country and the uneven abilities of Mr. Biden, the United States needs a stronger opponent to the presumptive Republican nominee. To make a call for a new Democratic nominee this late in a campaign is a decision not taken lightly, but it reflects the scale and seriousness of Mr. Trump’s challenge to the values and institutions of this country and the inadequacy of Mr. Biden to confront him.
Ending his candidacy would be against all of Mr. Biden’s personal and political instincts. He has picked himself up from tragedies and setbacks in the past and clearly believes he can do so again. Supporters of the president are already explaining away Thursday’s debate as one data point compared with three years of accomplishments. But the president’s performance cannot be written off as a bad night or blamed on a supposed cold, because it affirmed concerns that have been mounting for months or even years. Even when Mr. Biden tried to lay out his policy proposals, he stumbled. It cannot be outweighed by other public appearances because he has limited and carefully controlled his public appearances.
It should be remembered that Mr. Biden challenged Mr. Trump to this verbal duel. He set the rules, and he insisted on a date months earlier than any previous general election debate. He understood that he needed to address longstanding public concerns about his mental acuity and that he needed to do so as soon as possible.
The truth Mr. Biden needs to confront now is that he failed his own test.
In polls and interviews, voters say they are seeking fresh voices to take on Mr. Trump. And the consolation for Mr. Biden and his supporters is that there is still time to rally behind a different candidate. While Americans are conditioned to the long slog of multiyear presidential elections, in many democracies, campaigns are staged in the space of a few months.
It is a tragedy that Republicans themselves are not engaged in deeper soul-searching after Thursday’s debate. Mr. Trump’s own performance ought to be regarded as disqualifying. He lied brazenly and repeatedly about his own actions, his record as president and his opponent. He described plans that would harm the American economy, undermine civil liberties and fray America’s relationships with other nations. He refused to promise that he would accept defeat, returning instead to the kind of rhetoric that incited the Jan. 6 attack on Congress.
The Republican Party, however, has been co-opted by Mr. Trump’s ambitions. The burden rests on the Democratic Party to put the interests of the nation above the ambitions of a single man.
Democrats who have deferred to Mr. Biden must now find the courage to speak plain truths to the party’s leader. The confidantes and aides who have encouraged the president’s candidacy, and who sheltered him from unscripted appearances in public, should recognize the damage to Mr. Biden’s standing and the unlikelihood that he can repair it.
Mr. Biden answered an urgent question on Thursday night. It was not the answer that he and his supporters were hoping for. But if the risk of a second Trump term is as great as he says it is — and we agree with him that the danger is enormous — then his dedication to this country leaves him and his party only one choice.
The clearest path for Democrats to defeat a candidate defined by his lies is to deal truthfully with the American public: acknowledge that Mr. Biden can’t continue his race, and create a process to select someone more capable to stand in his place to defeat Mr. Trump in November.
It is the best chance to protect the soul of the nation — the cause that drew Mr. Biden to run for the presidency in 2019 — from the malign warping of Mr. Trump. And it is the best service that Mr. Biden can provide to a country that he has nobly served for so long.
TL;DR Summary:
The New York Times Editorial Board suggests that President Biden should withdraw from the 2024 presidential race to safeguard American democracy. They argue that while Biden effectively countered Trump's threats in 2020, his recent debate performance revealed his diminished capabilities. The Board believes Biden's struggles during the debate, including difficulty in articulating his plans and holding Trump accountable, underscore his inability to face the current challenges posed by Trump’s potential return to office.
The Editorial Board acknowledges Biden’s commendable presidency and his efforts to heal the nation but stresses the importance of having a more dynamic and vigorous Democratic candidate to oppose Trump. They emphasize that the stakes are too high to risk another term of Trump’s leadership, which could undermine democratic institutions and civil liberties. Therefore, they call for Democrats to courageously support a new candidate who can effectively challenge Trump and preserve the nation's values.
The New York Times Editorial Board suggests that President Biden should withdraw from the 2024 presidential race to safeguard American democracy. They argue that while Biden effectively countered Trump's threats in 2020, his recent debate performance revealed his diminished capabilities. The Board believes Biden's struggles during the debate, including difficulty in articulating his plans and holding Trump accountable, underscore his inability to face the current challenges posed by Trump’s potential return to office.
The Editorial Board acknowledges Biden’s commendable presidency and his efforts to heal the nation but stresses the importance of having a more dynamic and vigorous Democratic candidate to oppose Trump. They emphasize that the stakes are too high to risk another term of Trump’s leadership, which could undermine democratic institutions and civil liberties. Therefore, they call for Democrats to courageously support a new candidate who can effectively challenge Trump and preserve the nation's values.
Think about this, if Biden can't handle Trump, how will he handle NK, Iran, Russia, etc.?
Who didn't see this coming? Biden made many posters look foolish last night with their past couple years denial of his mental capacity. Some are finally seeing reality, while 1 nut here is doubling down on his denial.
I'm calling bullshit on NYT Ed Board. Where is the the exact same article written about Trump.
This, he should just to almost kill the chances that Trump is president again....I'll still vote for him in a heartbeat over Trump, but if Haley was running against him I would sit it out, because he's fvcking too old
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I don't recall anyone saying he doesn't have diminished mental facilities, but you can't can't say Trump doesn't have it either
Nope.
BHO settled it today.
Same people who said.
joe was ok.
Laptop is fake.
Etc, etc, etc….
If the the major donors start to back out and the polls show a downward shift, he’s in trouble. Otherwise, he’s gonna ride it out. Much as I respect what he’s done, I agree he should get out.
The nominee has to be made 40 days from now to get on the Ohio ballot. So that's the drop dead date.
I know what you are saying but it really is simple. Just vote for whoever the Democrats put up, even if it is Biden. Worst case scenario, Biden dies in office and the VP takes over. At least there isn't a convicted felon with a road map and plan to turn the country into an authoritarian autocracy in charge.
Well, that wasn't going to happen anyway given when the Democratic Convention is. I'm not sure what the Democratic plan for that actually was.
The question is why the New York Times isn't also putting out editorials demanding that Trump drop out of the race. If Trump is so terrible, why aren't they demanding he also drop out?
Biden's just old, Trump is a convicted criminal.
If Biden gets replaced at this point, I think Trump will probably win the election.
Neither should be president. The Media does what is always does. Gives the lunatics on the right a free pass and lays it on the Dems first chance they get.
Possibly. But keeping Biden almost guarantees the sicko that is Trump getting back in.
My hope is that Biden tanks in the polls enough to make it clear he has no realistic shot in the next two weeks. Then the Dems have three weeks to nominate someone else.
Dunno.
This Professor has correctly predicted every Presidential election winner for 40 years and he thinks replacing Biden now would give Trump a better chance of winning.
Is it probable, probably not... but it is possible. Far more possible than I ever would have imagined 10 years and it scares me. Because It came down to one man doing the right thing 4 years ago. Trump is a fvcking moron, but he won't make that same mistake...he will surround himself with people that won't have an ounce of integrity and considering there's plenty of people in the other branches of government that will do anything he say then who will stop him other than our military and that could impact all of us. Like breakdown of society impacts. Personally I'd rather not take that chance...even in the 1inamillion chance that he fvcks up and makes all our lives better under him as supreme leader let's not take that chance
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Dems say they will get around Biden Ohio ballot issue by holding virtual roll call before deadline • Ohio Capital Journal
An end to the Ohio Biden Ballot Debacle is in sight. National Democrats will be nominating President Joe Biden as their presidential candidate in a virtual roll call ahead of the DNC convention because the Ohio GOP "failed to act."
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