I hope. Then again Rs have been getting crazier and crazier every decade since Bush. I thought the Tea Party were nutjobs. Those people look like the picture of sanity now for Rs.
It’s over for Biden
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He literally has dementia. If Jill keeps fighting this, he’s going to be declared unable to serve under the 25th Amendment. Even then she’ll keep fighting to keep him on the ticket.
Rs have been working fairly hard to court black voters. And honestly they were doing a pretty good job of it by focusing on economic issues. But man Trump screwed all of these efforts up. They're basically back to square one now. Trump single handedly undid what aids spent months working their asses off with one insanely stupid and racist debate answer.
Primarily that but also the black church event in Detroit a few weeks ago and the barber shop meeting more recently. He can’t help but keep reminding everyone who he is.
39% - 25% is hardly a ringing endorsement from a demographic that historically supports democratic candidates 90% - 10%.
Biden also "won" Dade County, Florida in 2020.
Did you see the debate? Biden looked Frankenstein's monsters grandpa and yet black people still said, "Yep, we still like him better than the rapist."
GTFO already
"NEW — Biden's campaign manager held a tense call with top donors today, outlining what would happen to the campaign infrastructure should Biden step aside. (In short, the war chest go to Kamala Harris.)
One participant said some donors even asked for refunds for their contributions "
"NEW — Biden's campaign manager held a tense call with top donors today, outlining what would happen to the campaign infrastructure should Biden step aside. (In short, the war chest go to Kamala Harris.)
One participant said some donors even asked for refunds for their contributions "
All I can say is.....good luck?
A massive political, PR and personal campaign is underway to reject calls for President Biden to drop his re-election race — and rally Democrats to move on from public debate about age and his future, top officials tell us.
Why it matters: Biden has zero interest in stepping aside — and First Lady Jill Biden and key family members and friends agree, according to people who talk regularly with them.
The intrigue: Biden, who has ducked tough interviews and avoided no-holds-barred press conferences, is now considering both. Look for a town hall or big one-on-one interview this month.
The latest: During a family gathering at Camp David on Sunday, Biden family members, including Hunter, went through with a long-scheduled session with celebrity photographer Annie Leibovitz. The Bidens insisted the president stay in the race, we're told by people close to them.
The bottom line: Biden's camp believes voters will give more weight to Biden's judgment and record than to his grandpa gait or fading debate dexterity. It's one of the greatest gambles in the history of politics. Once again, Biden's team is telling Democratic voters: You just have to believe.
Behind the Curtain: Biden's salvation plan
A massive political, PR and personal campaign is underway to reject calls for President Biden to drop his re-election race — and rally Democrats to move on from public debate about age and his future, top officials tell us.
Why it matters: Biden has zero interest in stepping aside — and First Lady Jill Biden and key family members and friends agree, according to people who talk regularly with them.
The intrigue: Biden, who has ducked tough interviews and avoided no-holds-barred press conferences, is now considering both. Look for a town hall or big one-on-one interview this month.
The latest: During a family gathering at Camp David on Sunday, Biden family members, including Hunter, went through with a long-scheduled session with celebrity photographer Annie Leibovitz. The Bidens insisted the president stay in the race, we're told by people close to them.
- "They're all-in, and want him to stay in," a Biden source told us, adding that the campaign is "charging ahead."
- But the president smoothed it over: He called former chief of staff Ron Klain, who led the team, and one of the things they talked about was that neither he nor the family blames the prep.
- Campaign spokesman Kevin Munoz told us: "The aides who prepped the president have been with him for years, often decades, seeing him through victories and challenges. He maintains strong confidence in them."
- Klain, who is expected to lead Biden's prep for the second debate — on ABC on Sept. 10 — told us: "In 38 years of working with Joe Biden, we've had many successes and some failures. I'm always happy to share in the good results and assume my share of the responsibility for the times we've come up short."
- The biggest argument will be that Biden won the Democratic primaries overwhelmingly, and that result is final.
- "They just have to cool down," the source added. "We live in a democracy, at least for now."
- Dismiss "bedwetting." The official White House and campaign line is this is much ado about nothing — that Biden works so hard it drains his young staff. This attitude is driving elected officials and donors — basically any top Democrat not on the Biden payroll — nuts. They feel it's delusional. Nonetheless, Biden allies are cranking out data and pushing out surrogates to insist he had one bad night, mostly because of a scratchy voice and over-preparation.
- Squeeze polls for juice. Biden allies are circulating polls and focus group results showing the debate did little to change the dynamics of the race. They're ignoring contrarian results — like a CBS/YouGov poll out Sunday that shows a surge in voters who think Biden is not up for the job. If you're to believe the polls: Voters thought Biden lost the debate and seemed too old. But there's little evidence they're moving fast to Trump. Both seem true.
- Warn of chaos. Biden allies are making plain in private conversations the perils of an open convention — and the risk of picking a Democrat even more unpopular than Biden, namely Vice President Kamala Harris. They know Biden just needs to make it to the Democratic convention in Chicago, which opens eight weeks from today. After that, unity is the only choice.
- Limit dissent. Biden allies helped orchestrate the supportive tweets by former Presidents Clinton and Obama. Those happened after furious back-channeling by allies. Truth is, that was the easy part.
- Keep elected leaders close. The White House knows Senate Majority Leader Chuck Schumer and House Democratic Leader Hakeem Jeffries are deeply concerned that an unpopular Biden could cost them seats on Election Day. Their members in tough races are scared, and several plan to run away from Biden. Former Sen. Tom Harkin, who served with Biden in the Senate for 20+ years, said in an email to supporters that the debate was "a disaster from which Biden cannot recover."
- Get the donor class to chill. Jeffery Katzenberg and other top Biden backers are working the phones to reassure the deep pockets, while the campaign and DNC keep turning out fundraising appeals and highlighting successes. Some donors are blaming the staff — not the man on stage. John Morgan, a Florida personal-injury-law magnate who's a top Democratic donor, tweeted Sunday that Biden's debate-prep team is guilty of political malpractice: "Format was a disaster for him and a plus for Trump. He over practiced and was drained."
- Prove vitality. Words can't capture how elated top officials were that Biden was as vigorous as he was at a rally in North Carolina the day after the debate. They're looking for as many opportunities as possible to show that he's still on his game and not too old for the gig. They know words are useless — they need vitality in action.
- Ignore/engage the media. On the one hand, Biden allies want everyone to ignore the prominent columnists who loved Biden and are now calling for his resignation. On the other, the campaign and White House are deeply engaged with reporters (like us) writing about presidential fitness.
The bottom line: Biden's camp believes voters will give more weight to Biden's judgment and record than to his grandpa gait or fading debate dexterity. It's one of the greatest gambles in the history of politics. Once again, Biden's team is telling Democratic voters: You just have to believe.
Looks like we are Ridin’ with Biden bro! Get excited! We totally are going to win all the swing states like last time!
It's a recipe for an extremely close election.
Joe can still win but it will be close. Closer than it needed to be.
We still have McDonalds and KfC trying to save our Democracy. I have faith in them.
They really need to jack Trumps cholesterol level. I have faith they can do it.
“Prove vitality”
As if they can just flip a switch. And now they’re just lying and gaslighting.
They going to keep that up for four and a half years?
SMH.
As if they can just flip a switch. And now they’re just lying and gaslighting.
They going to keep that up for four and a half years?
SMH.
Apparently the town hall has to be between 1000 and 1600. Make it happen.
I think the "master plan" is to get him to 2026.....turn the reigns over to Kamala so she can be the Commander in Chief for 10 years.
3D chess
Which is why my vote is in question. Why should I play their games? I don’t want to indirectly vote for Harris. I would never vote for Harris.I think the "master plan" is to get him to 2026.....turn the reigns over to Kamala so she can be the Commander in Chief for 10 years.
3D chess
FU Jill….,Get out
It's becoming pretty apparent that Kamala is the "wrench in the ointment" when it comes to replacing Joe. There's simply not an easy way to bypass her.
All will be fine. The only belief I have in corporate media is they within a couple days will pivot to Biden being sick and that Trump lied more than him during the debate. I'm sure we'll hear that our eyes are deceiving us and he's back to his perfect fully aware self.
I don’t think it is that. She is not very popular with anyone and will be quickly forgot with a Warnock and/or Whitmer on ticket. She has zero control who would be picked to replace Biden if he withdraws. Heck, maybe they all throw her a bone after and he resigns and she can be claim history as the first women president for few months. I think the main hold up is Biden himself, along with family and friends.
It's already started. We'll see if it works.
I don't think theres any way to make Kamala look better publicly. They practically lock her in the basement and people still can't stand her.
I wouldn't be shocked one bit if she all of a sudden retired for "health reasons" or something similar.
15 or 20 incidents in thee last year and a half
‘Not a one-off’: Bernstein’s sources say concerns about Biden have been growing for a year
‘Not a one-off’: Bernstein’s sources say concerns about Biden have been growing for a year
One thing the DNC could do would be to dump Kamala as a running mate and pick Barack Obama as Biden’s new running mate. Guaranteed win for the presidency. Then Biden step down right after inauguration. I don’t think this would violate the 10 year limit, since it occrs on the back side of his first two terms and not the front. 🤷♂️
This isn't crazy but it screams desperation. That's how bad it's been since Thursday, It's hard to comprehend some of stuff I'm seeing being typed out.
‘It wasn’t just a horrible night’: Democratic Rep. signals openness to replacing Biden on ticket
Incompetence. Why would you not try to lock down those governors?
My guess is the WH inner circle believes there are potential competitors in that group and doesn’t want to give any ammo.
Now diaper dandy Joe is all up in arms over the supreme Court saying presidents have immunity while they're doing their job duties. Hate to tell you this Joe but that means you as well... you are doing crimes. You should be jumping for joy.
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