I guarantee you that fan disapproval played a factor in Beth and Dr. Wilson pulling the plug on this Brian experiment at offensive coordinator. So already your no “positive value” statement has been disproved. Otherwise we’d be running it back with Brian.
Last night, Feb 26, Jack McCaffery made it clear he won't be attending Iowa
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I guarantee you that fan disapproval was not at all necessary in that decision nor was it given significant consideration. Now what?
Well, now most of us here just laugh at you, like we’ve been doing for awhile now. Nothing new to see. Carry on. And we can dream about what this upcoming football season would be like if all these negative Nancy fans would have just given Brian Ferentz another shot. 😊
The point is to support your team. And don't hurt your team is the point.
You aren't one of the habitually negative fans in the community. But those fans can only hurt the Hawks. Nothing good can come from their daily negative commentary. Why is anybody supposed to be ok with this?
The fans helped get rid of Brian Ferentz. And that is a huge win for Iowa football. If you weren’t a “negative fan” when it came to that situation, then you are a big part of the problem!
Like it or not a man died because Jack hit him with his car. His father's job almost certainly played a part in how little that incident ended up affecting Jack in terms of legal considerations locally as well as how little it was in the news. Yes Connor and Patrick have had their turns being criticized unfairly by fans and the media bur they also both spent more time starting for Big Teams where their performance didn't match the trust and minutes they received. That meant other players didn't get those shots or the time on the floor to develop. Jack seems like a great kid and he most certainly didn't intend to kill someone bur he did. A man died. Many others have been convicted of manslaughter in similar situations and that wasn't even a consideration because of his last name. Their dad's job is why any of them have had the latitude they have had on and off the court. Not to.msntion of course Margaret whose.temper is well.known. curious how many people have a spouse whose temper is known at their job and were able to keep their job?
Is that expressed better?
Says the guy who takes a shot at Bluder everytime he gets a chance. Your shtick is old
He said he doesn't like iowa and not coming here. Why would i hope he succeeds elsewhere. the hell with that. i hope he sucks wherever he goes. He could just say he wants to blaze his own trail, and everything would be fine & understandable, but he decided to talk crap about iowa and the fans, so at that point, then I hope he sucks
Sometimes it’s okay to let idiots be idiots…. I am a walking example, people let me be an idiot every day
Sometimes it’s okay to let idiots be idiots…. I am a walking example, people let me be an idiot every day
Fans are customers. If you think the ROLE of customers is to just show up and hand over their money no matter what then you would be an awful businessman who is probanly baffled that there are so many empty seats at CHA. I'm glad Beth seems to grasp this very basic concept
I think Bluder has done a great job at Iowa.
But if someone is trying to blame a loss on the refs, and Iowa happened to play awful defense that game, I'm going to argue that the refs had nothing to do with the loss.
Plus I have a pulse on temperature of the community. There is no deafening negativity in the women's basketball community that I'm contributing to. If there comes a time that there is, I will be fighting against it
There’s a difference between complaining about officiating and blaming them for a loss. I’ve heard Bluder do the former, but not the latter.
Personally I have a very short list where I’ll argue the officials disproportionately affected the outcomes of games.
What about people who don't go to games? Do they have a roll?
Everyone in the community of a good or bad sports program is playing a role. Having everyone in the community all-in in their support of the team gives that team a much better chance at success than a toxic community. Again, when surveyed, coaches have responded that dealing with the community and parents is the worst part about their job. It matters.
The role of the fan is to support
No. I meant your sentence made it sound like more than an car accident. You seem to think the coach's family gets away with a lot. So Margaret is a Mama Tiger? How many others are there who aren't coach's spouses?
I'm talking about Iowa fans, not Bluder.
They seem to blame the refs every time the women's team loses
This guys got the pulse on the temperature of the community everyone! 🤣
Officiating rarely has a significant impact on the outcome of the game. I will say that officiating and defense are not mutually exclusive. If early in the game some touch fouls are called or physical play is allowed that can impact how defense is played. But we have seen a good deal of bad defense that officiating has no impact on.
You just rang the bell....ding ding ding ding. If you know the game you'd know that PM and CM were never taught the basics of shooting skills. You'd know that defenses sag off both of them. CM because they want him to shoot. PM because coaches know he has a low release point and not hard to come up on. Ding ding ding....
You do realize there are negative fans of EVERY team, don't you? And this has been the case as long as there has been organized sports.
Congratulations on your holier-than-thou attitude. Good for you. Now.....go to message boards for every other team and lecture their fans about how they should act. That negativity bothers you and it needs to stop.
No, I don't like it when some people are over the top negative. Yes, I have been negative at times when I felt there was a reason. I also give praise.
You seem to think fans should just keep their mouths shut and accept things as they are. I have a clue for you: it has never been that way and never will be. Coaches are paid millions of dollars....players are now getting paid...fans are gonna express their opinions.
Hurt the team? Iowa isn't affected any more than any other team. Does a McCaffrey kid get more criticism than other players? Of course they do. That comes with the territory when you play for your dad. IT HAPPENS EVERYWHERE. Remember Lickliter's son? He sure was the target of a lot of negativity (and still is, on occasion).
No, excessive negativity is not good. But it is never going away. If it bothers you that much, I suggest staying away from social media or sports altogether. Perhaps find another team that has no negative fans. Good luck with that. Guess what: you can support your team and still complain about some things.
And yes....I know what your "point" is. Don't act like you are better than everyone else. You're not.
Imagine thinking Twitter comments or message board opinions (lol) has any bearing on the program.. wait excuse me, the "temperature of the community". Lol.. give me a break.
LMAO….Really…..Connor was the best passer on the team. Extremely low turn over to assist. Kept the floor balanced, ran the offense, played four different positions as needed, and willed the team late in games on numerous occasions. You miss so much of what actually transpires in the game when you just watch the ball…..ding ding ding.
Would say yes along with PS. Actually you are talking to a former HS coach so don't go there. If you watched, you would see CM get backed off on which causes double teams and or more close guarding... Ding Ding. Watch more than the ball to learn. There were many times he was completely unguarded at or in the arc. What do you think a good coach against that would do?
How’d that work against Oregon? How about Richmond? How about Auburn? Give me a break. He shot like 28% from three in Luka’s best year and like mid 30% from the field. Our guards continually have gotten us beat the past three ncaa tourneys because they cannot defend (this isn’t Dix or Perkins) or create for others.
You know if you are going to attempt gaslighting, you should practice before trying it here.
Playing slow unathletic guards together that can’t defend, can’t create, and can’t score going to the basket is why we lost.
Oregon’s guard court outscored our starting guards like 63 to 0. That’s unbelievable.
Richmond just ran backdoor cuts all game long against our guards and we had no answer.
ya it was. Turtle v Hare at the guard. Auburn. You break down the D at the top and the D gets creamed. CM v Richmond 0 points. Can't score, D sags off. Not sure why only 11 minutes against OREGON. 0 points in 11 correlates to 0 in 40 if my calculations are correct.
Some apologists just gonna apologize.
We lost that game vs Richmond because we shot 20% from 3. oregon was a bad matchup for us across the board.
im not, nor have I ever said that Connor was a great play, just that he was effective at running the offense.
Connor was never a prolific scorer.
That is somewhat like the stewardess who says, "This job wouldn't be that bad if it wasn't for all those passengers...."
