Maybe a difference? They pulled the shirt officially in January and he won the BTT. He scored 19 team points.
There is no doubt he is a very good wrestler. But, 157 is really thin and he got a gift with that no call takedown against Robb. I think 157 is AOC's by a solid margin. After that, Haines will still have to navigate Andonian, Robb, Humphreys, Franek, Coleman and even Cardenas. That doesn't even account for him having an off match against guys like Lewan, Gfeller, Scott and Jacques.
Askren was going off about this one on FRL this morning. I just don't understand how that's not a takedown. The officiating last night, per usual, was dog shit and seemed to favor one team over all others.
I don’t think he will win, but he has a good chance at top 5. And then next year and beyond…look out!
How did Kerk look off? He dominated the #3 guy Cass and went into SV against the guy who has been #1 all year long. Kerk might not beat Parris this season but I don't see any other heavyweights other than Parris beating him at NCAAs.
Pretty amazing when you look at the Nittany Yankee's line-up from a p4p recruiting rankings perspective:
That TD/not TD wasn't the end of the match. Wasn't it at the end of per2?
Correct - maybe he has to take an ill-timed shot? Maybe he can't sit back and dictate his pace? The no (wrong) call mattered.
Now that you mention it, Dake would always frustrate me. You’d seem close to him, but that point or two was like 10.
Would be nice to see cobe play the spoiler early at ncaa’s with Haines.
Not going to be a thing. Unlikely we see Haines at 157 again, and keep in mind they’re 3 years apart, so have to think Levi’s trajectory is steeper at this point. With that said, Cobe is awfully fun to watch, even as a rival fan.
Do you think Haines redshirts next year to avoid Carr? I assume O'Toole moves up after this year.
I think Askren alluded to KO staying at 165 one more year b/c Mocco has one more season and they are like best friends.
Interesting. That makes sense and Askren would know, I just feel like O'Toole already looks huge for 165.
RBY, Dean, Kerk are stall riders…blatant
I too thought that was a clear TD. What was the justification/applied rule that disallowed it? I really don't know. When it went to replay I thought Nebby was for sure going to get the TD awarded.
I really like the idea of Haines and Hamiti meeting up in the future. Similar bodies, similar style, though I think Hamiti is more creative.
Note that I’m not remotely close to anybody to know what they’re thinking, but I don’t think the mindset in that facility is that he needs to avoid anybody (in a year). Of course, he’ll be even tougher in two, so if they can sneak a RS they would.
1. No control before he went out of bounds.
That's not exactly the rule. The rule is that reaction time beyond control must be given. The refs decided that there was not reaction time beyond the control.
RBY, Starr, Brooks are locks for national titles IMO. Not as blown away with Starr this year as I thought I would be, but he always finds a way to win close matches. Haines is impressive as hell, no doubt, but I think there are a few guys out there that could catch him.
I hope you’re right, because Haines isn’t on the same level as the other two yet.
Handed? If the TD is awarded the score is 2-0 with 2 periods to wrestle. Keep that bitter close, you will need it again multiple times as we move forward.
Yep. Hawks closing the gap and surpassing those pesky Lions happens alot.
So are you admitting it’s an entirely different match if Robb is given the TD?
2nd with Zain, Morgan, Quentin and Andrew Alton. 4th with Nico …
I would say some positions warrant more reaction time than others. If that happened in bounds with the same amount of time left, there is no way in hell that wasn’t a takedown. You can move the goalpost however you wish. To be clear, if that was a Saldate instead of Haines, I would say the exact same thing. Now, would I be happy it wasn’t called a takedown? Sure. Would I admit I thought it was? Absolutely.
