Wish I could fit into your category. But unfortunately I was some how way, way, way ahead of the dippers.
Mass Exodus
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That’s where I am at, having a MAX of two players come back for the rebuilding process. It’s not like this roster is loaded with untapped athletic talent that just needs to be unleashed/coached up by the right HC. I don’t want the new coach to pull a Prime Time move, but he will really need to have a few difficult discussions with some of our players who really probably should be on mid major rosters…😎
There will be plenty of good players available in the portal that would come to Iowa.
I’d like to enter some of their portals
Going to need pics of the cheerleaders to see if they need to leave.
TIA.
Unfortunately, the Swarm Collective does not currently allow direct NIL contributions to the cheerleading team.
They’re not going to get any more money out of Iowa.
Brad already (irresponsibly) said that he basically ran out of nil basketball funds this year and had to pay players out of his own pocket
He needed to be trained by Garzas father. Does he even have the desire to train like that?
I agree with you on Brad's misstatement.
But I think there is more money to get for basketball with a coach who can deliver results and engage better with fans and boosters.
Would they still go to Creighton if McDermott calls it quits at the end of the season? I have heard there is a possibility he will step down.
Had not heard that. He has a great program, and they lost their 2 (who was very good) early this season and have recovered. I have watched most of their games and they get up and down the court. They do lose Kalkbrenner (5) and Ashworth (1) this year and they are very good. So, maybe GM does not want to go thru a rebuild.
If I were Greg, the only way I'm leaving Creighton is retirement.
Why? Because of the abundance of positivity from students and the fan base in general? Iowa is not by any means a prime location other than the fact it is in the Big Ten. Give Iowa State all the crap you want, I promise you the players enjoy playing in front of those fans.
But look at the Iowa women and the fans that come to those games. They had four years to take advantage of one of the most dynamic women's players to come along in a generation. Why can't the men do that too? Because anyone who is near that level of talent is gone in a year. The Iowa men's program is middle of the road at best in the Big Ten and that is not going to change.
Show me a fan base that is all sunshine and roses. And don’t try to say Iowa State, because posts on cyclone fanatic after a loss say otherwise.
Fans have packed Carver for the men before. MAYBE the problem now is that the program is stale and the lack of any post season success.
Many portal players either don’t find a landing spot, or go to a “lower” team. I believe there are guys in this group that are good players who would jump at the chance to play at Iowa.
It’s sad that there are so-called fans who think so little of the University of Iowa. The “we are just little old Iowa and can’t ever expect to compete” attitude is sickening.
Holler at me when the men's team makes two NCAA championship games in a row. Guessing CHA might be full if/when that happens, I just hope I'm not dead. The men's program has reached depths I never imagined possible growing up with great hoops in the 80s and early 90s. I will respectfully disagree with you about being middle of the road and unable to change. Just look at programs this year. Iowa State is having a great season. Missouri didn't win a conference game last year and they're ranked 14th. Maryland, Memphis, Louisville have all been up and down recently, they're up this year. If we cannot compete with teams like this from a recruiting and results standpoint on a regular basis, well then you may as well crater Carver tomorrow.
The right coach with the right system will recruit the right players to fit that system. No more square pegs into round hole stuff or settling for middling players. That will get people in the stands and produce results. Results MUST come first before people will come back. I won't even watch games on TV anymore. If you would have told me that three years ago, I would have said you were high.
When you tell me about how great the hoops were in the 80's and 90's, I think there is a lot of revisionist history just how far those teams advanced. Here it is since 1980 through current. Final Four - (1) 1980; Elite 8 (2) 1980, 1987; Sweet 16 (5) 1980, 1983, 1987, 1988, 1899. So please don't try to tell me how golden of a history Iowa basketball has.
And I was using the women as an example of how they can and did take advantage of something the men can't. No talent at the level of CC is ever going to stay four years in the men's game.
Yeah, so much better than now, got it.
Did the 1899 team play with peach baskets?
Dembele is awful, bye. Harding, below average. They can all leave.
I was young, so a bit of revision I'm sure...but, making it to the round of 32 13 times between 1980-99 sounds like a dream come true. And the fact that the possibility of doing something truly special felt legit. On that note, I hate UNLV and especially Freddie Banks(?). They destroyed the teenage dreams of a young Iowa fan not once, but twice!!
Thanks Jimmy! I just want what’s best for the state of the program and if they have to start over than so be it! Getting the right hire could expedite the process!
Go watch the replay of Iowa vs the Fab 4 after the death of Chris Street. Or the game when Dr Tom scored 100 on the General in Iowa City. Student section and the crowds were raucous. Totally unlike the mausoleum that it is now.
That game against Michigan, the first home game after the death of Street, was the loudest game I have ever attended. I was in the student section and although I could feel myself screaming, I could not hear my own voice.
You do realize that in 2000, I believe, Sporting News or Sports Illustrated ranked us as the 10th best program in college basketball? That’s pretty much a reflection of our overall success in the 80s and 90s (with a sprinkling of 50s and 70s). Don’t kid yourself, we were relevant….not so much anymore…
Mass Exodus is a great way to describe what has happened to Iowa fans.
🤣Iowa fans begging these guys to stay:
Yes, so if you have a Garza, Keegan, Kris, and Weezy on the same roster, you would need to go to portal and recruit a supporting cast and make your NCAA tourney run. Or you can avoid recruiting/playing guys that would compete with your two boy's playing time.
You can't win back fans with a mediocre product and a head coach that lacks charisma and is mostly interested in contract extensions/maximizing his long-term payout and playing his boys over winning. He ran the program for 6 years trying to avoid
recruiting guys that would take PT away from CMAC and PMAC.
Pressing X to doubt.... definitely sounds like bullshit.
Just off the top of my head in 2000 -- UCLA, Duke, North Carolina, Kansas, Indiana, Louisville, Michigan State,
Then...just in the Big Ten you have Purdue, Illinois, Michigan, and Ohio State. Not to mention Syracuse, Georgetown, Arizona, Arkansas, Cincinnati, Oklahoma State, UNLV...that's 18...
I honestly would be very surprised if we made a top 20.
I used to not believe this but it seems plausible now.
He wouldn't start Keegan or play Kris their first year, then he wouldn't start Kris his second year.
There's no way Keegan wasn't better than Connor and Kris wasn't better than Patrick the minute they got there, it's just not possible.
