George Jr.
Clinton.
Biden.
Trump.
Who’s being hypocritical? If you can’t admit they all pulled strings to avoid military service then there’s not much else left to say.
Minnesota National Guard - Walz didn't know about Iraq deployment and was a Command Sgt Major on the day he retired.
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Clinton.
Biden.
Trump.
Who’s being hypocritical? If you can’t admit they all pulled strings to avoid military service then there’s not much else left to say.
I’m not voting for Trump because he sold his soul to Pfizer.
There are other reasons but that one’s enough.
GWB actually served though. Opting to serve in a guard unit certainly wasn’t uncommon for the time.
He went AWOL but thanks to Daddy he got away with it.
His ‘MISSION ACCOMPLISHED’ flight suit stunt was the ultimate show of hypocrisy.
JD is being hypocritical. How tone deaf can someone be attacking a guy who served for 24 years when not one single person w the last name of Trump has ever served. Not one.
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Why would I start such a thread? It would just turn into another worthless pissing contest. 🥴
Once, again…JD is NOT attacking Walz’s service, rather his lying on the details of such service.
Jesse Ventura made a great point about the national guard. Its mission isn’t to be deployed in the first place. Their mission is to stay here at home. Hence its name, the National GUARD.
It’s a bullshit argument being made to begin with.
It’s a bullshit argument being made to begin with.
This is a classic Republican generated "scandal", they've been doing it for 30 plus years, i can remember in the last weeks of thee 92 campaign the Bush campaign trying to make a big deal out of Bill Clinton visiting the Soviet Union when he was at Oxford.
What they're accusing Walz of is complete bullshit that's been debunked over and over (in this thread as well)). But they'll keep talking about it in the hopes that uninformed people will think smoke = fire. It's just such a completely full of shit despicable party full of full of shit despicable people. Vance is a complete POS to take the point on this nonsense.
They're going after a guy who served his country honorably for 24 years in the National Guard, but he must be destroyed. Just horrible, despicable people. This is who they are.
What they're accusing Walz of is complete bullshit that's been debunked over and over (in this thread as well)). But they'll keep talking about it in the hopes that uninformed people will think smoke = fire. It's just such a completely full of shit despicable party full of full of shit despicable people. Vance is a complete POS to take the point on this nonsense.
They're going after a guy who served his country honorably for 24 years in the National Guard, but he must be destroyed. Just horrible, despicable people. This is who they are.
That’s completely untrue.
https://www.armyupress.army.mil/Jou... then chief of,the Reserve and National Guard.
Under the doctrine that bears his name, Gen. Creighton Abrams, then chief of staff of the Army, devised one such mechanism to maintain the vital relationship between America and its Army.
At its core, the Abrams Doctrine sought to keep society vested in its Army by filling the void left by the draft with the Reserve and National Guard.15 It placed critical supporting units and enablers—engineers, transportation, maintenance, supply, and others—in the Reserve so that combat units could not deploy en masse without them. This inextricably linked the Reserve and Active Components in a mutually dependent relationship; a relationship then Secretary of Defense Melvin Laird, and later James Schlesinger, would further refine into the Total Force Concept.16 Abrams meant the doctrine to correct President Lyndon Johnson’s contentious decision to fight the Vietnam War without mobilizing the National Guard or Reserve. Johnson refused to call up the Reserve Component in a desperate attempt to keep the affair in Southeast Asia from interfering with his Great Society efforts at home.17 Abrams wanted to correct this by making it increasingly difficult for future presidents to commit forces abroad without tapping into citizen-soldiers at home. “They’re not taking us to war again without calling up the Reserves,” he declared.18
Pretty accurate photos, Walz fancies himself a Sgt York type, but the facts show he is really a sissy coward.
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The day he retired he was a Command Sergeant Major. Subsequently, WHILE he was retired the military downgraded him to Sergeant Major. You know how I know that? The MILITARY says it.He RETIRED as a Master Sergeant. That's a fact. His commanding officer has verified it. Here's his coin, by the way, with the wrong rank imprinted:
Neither has Trump. Fake news.
It has been about 10 days of this from the right and Harris /Walz keep gaining voters in the polls. That’s because most sane people do NOT give a shit about the semantics here. It is a ridiculous line of attack and it has not, and will not move the needle in the election. So I hope the GOP keeps it up. The more you focus on minor semantics from decades ago the more you show you have no vision for America’s future.
You’re delusional. Everyone has said that he walked out with CSM on his collar. You can’t find a single source that says that. My understanding is that this guy didn’t even serve with walz.
The paper trail says different.
I believe the paper trail over former co-workers with potential axes to grind or who might have political leanings.
It's hilarious to me that you guys went on and on about how we shouldn't believe woman who said that Kavanaugh raped her who came public just as he was being nominated to the SCOTUS but you will instantly believe some rando who said that Tim Walz retired to avoid deployment just as he's nominated to the Vice Presidency. Even when the Minnesota National Guard officially disputes what he's saying.
WEIRD HOW THAT WORKS
Yes, all these guys went to all this trouble just because they hate the fat kid!
LOL...no they do it because, like you, they have their heads stuffed up Trump's ass. You lie more easily than you breathe...it's your defining character trait. Lying is the easiest thing in the world to you - no trouble at all.
Say hello to your little friends somewhere beyond Trump's rectum.
Explained: The Controversy Over Tim Walz's Military Service
https://www.snopes.com/news/2024/08/16/walz-national-gaurd/
Why does he keep telling the "retired command sgt major" lie over..and over..and over??
- Walz served as a command sergeant major, but did not retire at that grade because he did not complete the required training. The Guard has said, on numerous occasions, that it is accurate for Walz to state that he has served at that rank.
Well, he can clear this whole thing up by showing the world his DD-214. He should do that immediately to shut down all of us weirdos who don't understand how the military works.
I think it's been clear for just about everybody for a while now. Time to move on.
