Who tried to tell me this was not the desired dual? You certainly didn't. You were too busy pointing out how Gable did the same thing (which he didn't), and how I have no right to voice displeasure because you are good with it. Somebody is way off kilter.
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Who tried to tell me this was not the desired dual? You certainly didn't. You were too busy pointing out how Gable did the same thing (which he didn't), and how I have no right to voice displeasure because you are good with it. Somebody is way off kilter.
"You couldn't be more wrong about that. You can chalk Brands up as someone who won't have the conversation though"
I have seen Tom Brands in many,many situations converse with fans about a lot of things-- He doesnt back away from any subject. If you asked him about him"weak" schedule he would definitely answer and talk about it. Doesn't mean he would agree with you or vice versa, but he would talk.
"That is good information. Thank you. So it wan't a case of some grand plan for world domination, but rather settling for something when something better couldn't be worked out. That makes sense far more than any other excuse put forward"
You come across as a douche bag with your choice of words-- Excuse??? really?? Brands wants to win a national title and at the same time make decisions that are good for the sport-- A lot of schools were contacted --
I have seen Tom Brands in many,many situations converse with fans about a lot of things-- He doesnt back away from any subject. If you asked him about him"weak" schedule he would definitely answer and talk about it. Doesn't mean he would agree with you or vice versa, but he would talk.
"That is good information. Thank you. So it wan't a case of some grand plan for world domination, but rather settling for something when something better couldn't be worked out. That makes sense far more than any other excuse put forward"
You come across as a douche bag with your choice of words-- Excuse??? really?? Brands wants to win a national title and at the same time make decisions that are good for the sport-- A lot of schools were contacted --
I have spoken to Brands many times and yes he is very approachable. I also know Mizzu and UNI have both been trying to get duals in the home/home with Iowa for awhile now. Perhaps Schwab and Smith are liars, but I don't think so.
No, I did not try and tell you this was not the desired dual. On that you are correct. I tried to tell you there are probably more things going on in the decision making process that nobody here may know about and that you might be complaining about without a full understanding of all the issues involved. On that issue I appear to be correct.
I never said anything about Gable or NW Iowa. You are confusing me with what someone else posted.
You can voice your displease, whether you have season tickets or not. No problem.
However when you pick a minor issue and go on and on about it........it eventually becomes whining and annoying. You have gone past that point long ago.
Don't expect to spout whatever you want without someone calling you on it. If you post things that posters don't think is correct, you will get feedback. You have gotten a lot of feedback on your thoughts and ideas. It appears not many are agreeing with your thoughts. Not just me............
But feel free to keep complaining about something that you really know nothing about if it makes you feel better I guess. Just don't expect that no one will comment on your thoughts.
Thanks kwood for the permission to break into the "groupthink" with a different opinion. I don't think the schedule is a "minor issue" as you do. Scheduling plays a role in recruiting and development. I will harp on it to my hearts content and I like being "called out" for not drinking the kool aid. Ihawk9 was called out the same way when he didn't agree with the recruiting. The trend on this board is to defend the status quo no matter the results. I can't swallow that and hopefully it eventually changes. If it doesn't change we can always talk to our grand kids about the wrestling dynasty that used to be in Iowa.
"I have spoken to Brands many times and yes he is very approachable. I also know Mizzu and UNI have both been trying to get duals in the home/home with Iowa for awhile now. Perhaps Schwab and Smith are liars, but I don't think so."--James P Whitters
"You can chalk Brands up as someone who won't have the conversation though."-- James P Whitters
You cant have it both ways-- and by insinuating TB doesn't want duals with Mizz or UNI is silly--- matter of fact I think there is a god chance we meet MIzz in a dual in Carver in a couple weeks.
"You can chalk Brands up as someone who won't have the conversation though."-- James P Whitters
You cant have it both ways-- and by insinuating TB doesn't want duals with Mizz or UNI is silly--- matter of fact I think there is a god chance we meet MIzz in a dual in Carver in a couple weeks.
I have spoken to Brands on several occasions. He was not forthcoming when I ask "Why can't Schwab get a dual with us?" This is just a fact. I don't like it either. Ask Schwab his opinion. He is quite approachable too. Mizzu has been trying for several years to schedule Iowa as an annual dual, but Iowa won't do it. These are facts. Vegas would love to have Iowa attend. Fact. Brands has a weak schedule by choice. You can say whatever but the facts are not on your side. Gable did this and Gable did that, but Gable won championships. Brands is not. Fact.
Well, I have to say it with great pleasure. You and MSU158 have a lot in common and maybe your actually the same person. You probably wouldn't know if you were talking to Terry or Tom and, your a "liar" as far as I'm concerned. And, your being ignored because I just don't care much for your bull shit.
Well, I have to say it with great pleasure. You and MSU158 have a lot in common and maybe your actually the same person. You probably wouldn't know if you were talking to Terry or Tom and, your a "liar" as far as I'm concerned. And, your being ignored because I just don't care much for your bull shit.
Wow. Thank you for the compliment! MSU158 is probably the best poster on this board. Your posts, on the other hand, are garbage and groupthink. I never knew you existed until today, so being ignored by you will be pretty painful. I will, at least, have this great dual meet with Montana Northern ok hardware to take my mind off of my misery.
Jdub...folks around here get like this when a dead horse is beaten.
Think of it like this...Brands has been accused of beating his guys up and burning them out before NCAAs. It's an annual thing on here. He starts slow and finished hard and you've seen the results. Many of our guys limp into the tourneys.
So maybe he's trying a different tact this year. As a fan, I want to see a UNI match but we started out this season wrestling one of the toughest teams in the country. I think his priority is getting healthy guys to the tourney.
Also, doesn't help your cause taking the argument to other boards to get a few amens. Just sayin.
Think of it like this...Brands has been accused of beating his guys up and burning them out before NCAAs. It's an annual thing on here. He starts slow and finished hard and you've seen the results. Many of our guys limp into the tourneys.
So maybe he's trying a different tact this year. As a fan, I want to see a UNI match but we started out this season wrestling one of the toughest teams in the country. I think his priority is getting healthy guys to the tourney.
Also, doesn't help your cause taking the argument to other boards to get a few amens. Just sayin.
iowa is the hammer, I am sure tom dictates terms take it or leave it, if mizzu or uni wish to progress to iowas level there will have to be concessions made by them.
James p Witters sure comes off like an arrogant know it all. He talked to Brands and James is stating "the facts" lol. All you need to know about Jimmy is that he is a big Cyclone and Andy Long fan..
I for one am excited for the dual with Montana State. It's great for the locals, to help grow interest in the sport and our beloved Hawks get to visit Montana for a quick getaway.
James you can go watch a Grandview or Cyclone dual while the rest of us support Brands and the Hawks.
I for one am excited for the dual with Montana State. It's great for the locals, to help grow interest in the sport and our beloved Hawks get to visit Montana for a quick getaway.
James you can go watch a Grandview or Cyclone dual while the rest of us support Brands and the Hawks.
I will support any team I choose. I am not a Hawk fan first, but Iowa remains in the top five. I am a wrestling fan. I don't drink the kool aid of any one program. I know that is unimaginable to most hawkeye fans, but it happens. The schedule is a joke, and everyone not wearing blinders already knows this. I guess i will just have to continue to point out that the emperor has no clothes even though you all swear he is wearing a black singlet.
I'm still going. No one can take that away from me. If it is sold out, do you think there will be any scalpers out front?
You are worse, in a big way, than a lot of PSU fans that post here. You go to the Iowa duals pretending to be a Hawkeye fan then you stab the team and coaches in the back when you post on different message boards. You are trolling and it's getting old fast.
Let me guess the order of your "top 5 teams"
1. THE JAMES P WITTERS lll Holier-than-thou troll team
2. Grandview
3. ISU
4. Penn State
5. UNI or iowa.
1. Team USA
2. ISU
3.Iowa
4.UNI
5.Grandview
6.PSU
7.Mizzu
8.Virginia Tech
9.Any team you hate turk
10.Wartburg
I'm considering jumping PSU above Iowa because I need a winner up there to offset the cyclones and the constant losing. You talked me into it.
That list makes the most sense with PSU above ISU/Iowa, because i've never seen an alleged "Wrestling fan first, ISU/Hawkeye 'fan' second" kiss more PSU ass on their forum than you do. I know its just my opinion, but i'm sure most hawk fans here value loyalty to one team, more than cheering for the flavor of the day.
And I congratulate them!! I, however, choose to applaud and support those that aspire to greatness. My blind loyalty toward a failed entity has remained steadfast for the Cyclones, so I can't replace them just yet. Iowa seems more disposable.
Applauding greatness is not kissing anything. Jason Nolf will have the highest praise because he wrestles the right way. I held Brent Metcalf in that same high place. Cael Sanderson was the highest of all because he was the greatest college wrestler of my lifetime. It is really sad that you can't appreciate greatness because of singlet color. Small people have small ways.
Who said anything about not appreciating greatness because of singlet color, now you're just putting words in my mouth. I think all Iowa fans here have appreciated the greatness we have witnessed, even in the past 5 years without our title winning. I appreciate the heck out of guys like Dieringer/Taylor/Ruth/Dake/Stieber, greats of the sport. Nolf and Retherford are starting to look like greats, but just because I don't go out of my way to post on PSU forums telling them how great their guys are (like they need more fuel to the ego) doesn't make me a small person. I'd rather support the heck out of our guys and studs of the past few years for example: McDonough, Ramos, St. John, and now Gilman, Clark, Sorensen. You have an interesting way of producing straw man arguments.
Prosecution exhibit b. You would be fun to have on the stand young man. Does your ignore function not work?
I would like to point out that scheduling smaller schools, like smaller D-1 or D-2 schools is good for the sport. Even scheduling NAIA schools is something that quality wrestling teams do from time to time to promote the sport and promote their brand in different areas of the country. Just like ISU wrestled NAIA Grandview a few years back, we schedule NAIA MSN.
Is this the best match up possible, obviously not, but I am sure this is something we are doing to help promote their program as much as ours. Leaders are expected to lead, the big programs need to go promote wrestling at smaller schools, Iowa does it every year, Edinboro, Buffalo etc, PSU does it with the PA state schools like Lock Haven, Clarion etc..Minny does it with Grand Canyon. OSU does it with Northeastern Oklahoma.
Since we don't control the Big 10 schedule, not much we can do about that. If we were wrestling Maryland this weekend, you wouldn't be complaining. This year we moved Maryland in to the IC duals and a team like MSN out, same difference, just different timing. Before Nationals we will have wrestled the #1 team in the country at the time, OSU, and all the best wrestlers in the big 10 through the Big10 tournament. And as far as wrestling UNI, I would like to see it, but what difference does it make, they are a successful program already, so don't need our support and would pose no challenge from a competition standpoint (got beat by ISU and Rutgers), so would not be meeting your criteria of adding better competition.
another idiot with no life, my life sucks so I will find pleasure annoying others, loser
Solid points and I understand your argument. I would have no problem with these type of duals when the conference schedule is more challenging, but that isn't the case this year. I appreciate your tone and well thought out post. I think putting Vegas on the schedule alleviates the problem because it both tough and early season. I know it is a dead horse, but I will beat it nonetheless.
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Prosecution exhibit D. Would you like vasoline ? The press? You are seeing a whole team of doctors I hope.
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Please take your own advice. I sit hour by hour hoping to be ignored, yet still you are here with me. I have always dreamed of that magical world where you ignore me, but alas it is simply a dream. Sleep tight little man.
Iowa had the highest RPI across the board last year. I bet their guys are right up there again this year at the top. The Iowa has a weak schedule rant is overplayed and holds no validity. Everyone knows Iowa will be at Midlands. They wrestled the #4,#11,#12,#14,#16,#18,#23,#24 teams this year as of now. http://www.ncaa.com/rankings/wrestling/d1
They will add another top 10 at the duals.
They have earned the right to schedule this dual. If Brand's wants to snub UNI and MIZZU, he has a reason.
Maybe they wanted a team building trip where they could break up the monotony of the season right before their big post season push.
Frankly I like that they are not grinding it all the way into the B1G tournament.
They will add another top 10 at the duals.
They have earned the right to schedule this dual. If Brand's wants to snub UNI and MIZZU, he has a reason.
Maybe they wanted a team building trip where they could break up the monotony of the season right before their big post season push.
Frankly I like that they are not grinding it all the way into the B1G tournament.
