I think and have always said that Gavin looks a helluva lot like an OSU guy to me.
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I think and have always said that Gavin looks a helluva lot like an OSU guy to me.
Its a log jam all would not mind having but all would have a hard time with to many very talented young wrestlers not enough starting spots by 2019 more than one of Gavin,RBY,Lee,Lee,Verk,Berge and Manville will be out of the picture for PSU for a variety of reasons. Besides any guys I missed all these young men are looking to be on the podium not the bench they will not wait.. I see one or two at other schools for there starting spots
Agreed, that's the best stylistic fit, IMO. That being said, he'll do well at Penn State.
No sense arguing about it, lets just see how things play out and then we can revisit this discussion just like we did with how Nickal better not go upper body with Brooks.
It is funny how you guys keep moving the goal posts, first it was 133, then 149, then 157, etc., just keep spit balling boys , eventually one will stick.
Actually, you are the one moving Nick Lee to 149 his true freshman year despite most everyone having him at 141.
TBF, there have been some online that have opined him at 149 because of the weight cut. Of course there have been others online that say he is 133, lol.
Par for the course when discussing future weights. Most outside the athlete themselves are shooting in the dark. And sometimes the athletes themselves are off the mark. I relayed a personal story on another board about arguing with an athlete about his very near future competition weight and the punchline was that a month later he conceded that I was probably right and he was probably wrong.
Does Teasdale get his "upside" back if he flips back to Iowa?
I don't see that kid having anything but success at the next level.
I don't see that kid having anything but success at the next level.
I don't read anybody putting down Teasdale. I think everyone is saying he is very good. The point is, or at least my point is, I don't see either RBY or Teasdale at 125. That's all and I believe they might be at the same weight.
Someone definitely called him Gulibon 2.0. Don't see how you could consider that anything but a shot.
Just as bad as the guys in blue who will be saying that Iowa fans are now saying that Teasdale has no upside or will be Guilbon 2.0 when one guy says it.
I said it wouldn't shock me if he ended up being Gulibon 2.0. I stand by that. I do not agree with your assessment of his upside. He'll be going into college a year older than his class with the polish of being a member of the best youth club in the country.
I'd bet on Teasdale being a 3 or 4 time all-american and a finalist at least once.
I wonder if Brody knows that Oklahoma Joe's is now Joe's KC BBQ. Same thing different name. Squeezed in some BBQ, Oklahoma and wrestling....BOOM! No recipes though, working on it and no mention of schools out east.
If Gavin started wrestling "late" than what is "normal"? Kindergarten? I don't even want to think about what you would consider "early," because I would guess it involves still being in the womb or even pre-conception. Cue the joke parade. I apologize in advance for opening the door.
I don't think many people are underselling his potential as a high end recruit. He is a stud. He will be a multiple time AA I have no doubts. However, he is the oldest kid I have ever heard of being eligible to compete in High School and he has had elite coaching now for close to a decade. The learning curve for every athlete slows down at some point and generally speaking, age, physical maturity, elite workout partners, and access to high level coaching are major contributors to accelerating that learning curve. Gavin already has had those happen to some degree or another, so, just like many other top recruits nowadays, he might not have too much growth left to reach his ceiling. However, make no qualms about it, his floor is already pretty darn high and while I think he isn't on the level as Lee, Fix, or Suriano, he is going to come in and compete for AA status right out of the gate eventually.
It is funny how much you care what Hawk fans think.
Agreed, we can end this conversation and you are free to go away for and extended period of time, not limited to forever. Quite frankly, I think your whole team is trying to make 157 this year, huge log jam. Just not sure what you are going to do about it.
In CO for a couple of days and think I'll head over to the OTC this morning with the kids.
Some observations...saw KJ, John Smith, and Helen Maroulis at the OTC. Unfortunately the tour didn't allow us to stay in the wrestling area for as long as I'd like. Most disappointing is they covered up the Olympic Rings where we used to take photos. Something about legal reasons.
I think Jered Cortez turned 19 the summer before his senior year of HS. Not meant to be a slight, he's just the oldest that I know of.
Cael has had more than his fair share of the mature kids.
To retain 3 yrs of eligibility, Suriano must apply for a waiver from the B10. Since the only exception listed in the rules is dropping the sport, his hardship must rise to that level to have any chance at approval. Most of the rumored reasons for his exit do not, and would be rejected by the B10 (homesick, weight change, didn't like something Cael said, etc.).
The only rumored cause that might work is injury mistreatment (though that would be hard to prove -- how badly could he have been mistreated to practice 3 months after breaking his foot?). If that's a basis for his claim, NO school in PSU's position could agree to recommend his waiver. That would be an implied admission of medical malpractice, exposure to liability, and potentially a violation of patient confidentiality law.
If he hurt his foot at national duals (which I believe was 4 weeks before nationals), and didn't practice for 3 months, maybe he believes there was an ethical violation. Why prevent another kid from wrestling at nationals if you know that your athlete can't even practice let alone compete? He might not receive a waiver, but it puts Cal in a position where he has to recommend that the big ten give the waiver just to quash negative publicity. Just conjecture based on your post. I have no idea what happened.
Wasn't Matt Brown about 48 his senior year?
Wasn't Luke Lofthouse 25 years old his senior year? Isn't that how old PDIII will be this season?
Some of guys really need to think before you post.
Some of guys really need to think before you post.
All this talk about age and nobody has mention Lavion Mayes. Dude was collecting social security during his senior year.
The 2 obvious holes in that argument are (1) PSU having another 125 capable of qualifying for nationals; (2) Cael giving a rip about negative publicity that will pass in a few weeks either way.
Well that's a statement that goes both ways Sir. I shake my head more often then not when i read your posts. No reason for you to act all high and mighty over here like you are better than everyone.
No one has ever denied that there are pedophiles spread out throughout the country and likely on every/ nearly every college campus.
It is not the school/admin's fault that a pedophile made their way onto their coaching ranks. They don't exactly walk around wearing a "Hey, I'm a pedophile" shirt.
What damned well is their fault is their actions upon learning that they had this problem. So you all can quit with the pitiful woe is me routine someday and own up to those actions.
Or continue to bury your heads in the sand and blame others. Or in other words keep following the lead your University Administrators set in place many years ago. You know, the one that allowed a known sexual predator to continue victimizing young boys.
That is why you guys are P.O.S.
Not because Sandusky existed, but because he was allowed to continue to exist by the grown men and supposed leaders of PSU.
Glad you finally were able to say something original that hasn't already been said.
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Your 1st point makes no sense. It doesn't matter if they don't have another athlete for the spot the qualifier had passed. If Cal knows that his kid hasn't practiced he should be able to pull his name in time for an alternate to go to nationals. If you are right, and he was not practicing, then not pulling his 125 pounder in time for a replacement was bush league.
Is that like Brands not giving full releases for 2nd stringers to find a starting spot elsewhere? Appears you live in a glass house too.
