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Ira’s 2016 article detailing Jeff Heaser games for FSU and opponents
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Odd history with Saturday's officials worth a look from ACC
FSU's Jimbo Fisher has complained about Saturday's officials to the ACC. Perhaps the league should take a longer look.
That fourth quarter column is telling.
Not Iowaesque, but purposeful.
Things do not seem great in gator land
Gator Breakdown takes on an all new meaning...
Because his head is inside his helmet? Clear hands to the face, no question about it...
He's dead. I've pizzed on his grave. It's over...
Was heaser yesterdays official?Ira’s 2016 article detailing Jeff Heaser games for FSU and opponents
Odd history with Saturday's officials worth a look from ACC
FSU's Jimbo Fisher has complained about Saturday's officials to the ACC. Perhaps the league should take a longer look.
"gatorbreakdown.com" is soooooo appropriate there. Dude needs to get some help!
You're a piss poor troll.
I posted it and it got removed and was warned no more doxing. Trad went nuts to the mod about it.
...because I never... err rarely troll. Your blitzer clubbed the QB in the face. That's roughing, otherwise a clean hit. I'll be over at the Iowa Championship thread absorbing hits from better trolls than myself. Most will be fellow Hawkeyes, I'm sure...
I didn’t see that as a clubbing, but rather a fairly unintentional brush against the face mask… not that I was close enough to tell. I couldn’t see his head snap back, for instance.
BTW, the call against the Hawks looked wrong. Dude hit the QB cleanly during release is my opinion.
It would be awesome if we got matched up in a bowl game, but I don’t see us going to the Outback Bowl or Music City Bowl any time soon.
Roughing the passer wasn't the call on the field (ball never left qbs hands). Are you claiming it’s targeting? It was a generic personal foul, with no number given with it…which gives you an indication they didn’t know wtf they were doing/calling…or maybe they did, as you can review a targeting call, and not a personal foul. As mentioned, there was incidental contact with hands/arms as they brushed over the face masks (not forceable contact). I challenge you find anyone worthwhile who believes that was a good call.
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Can you imagine what the ACC refs would do if this were our guy?
The Chiefs took over that dump last night
Evidently landing with his weight on the Illinois QB was part of the call. Tony Siiragusa rule from the Super Bowl where the 400 pounder crushed and took Rich Gannon out of the game...
Ira’s Sunday night show
There is a lot in this that is good. Ira repeated a comment from Norvell that on the last TD when he sent Tate back on the field from the injury tent, he gave him two plays he could use. He said Tate made the correct call at the line and switched us into the running play that resulted in Benson’s third TD run.
Dominic Robinson joined the show about halfway through and was dropping knowledge left and right.
DR said it it incredibly difficult to win 12 games and not have a loss. There are national championship teams that didn’t go 12-0.
DR said that Tate pulled the ball on an early zone read play where Benson had a wide open field in front of him that likely would have been a long TD run
DR said that we will probably get away with Tate’s slow processing of reads vs Louisville but vs a playoff team that, combined with an OL that is inconsistent at run blocking, it will likely come back to haunt us.
He wasn’t being critical of Tate. He mostly praised him. He said coming in off the bench is hard. Tate has now done it twice and won both times. He said making your first start at UF, at night, is insanely difficult. Our best players and Norvell’s play calling made it more difficult early rather than helping him. Despite all of that, he didn’t implode. He played well enough for us to win.
He talked about how we will probably give Tate a small handful of plays that he likes that he can have planned in advance so we can go tempo.
There is a lot more from both Ira and DR. These are just the points that I remember.
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DR said UFelon is not far away from being good. He said they are much more talented than UM. He said their backup qb who played is a lot better than their injured starter. His wife is UFelon grad and his son apparently is going to play baseball there. He said he has watched most of their games this season.
There is a lot in this that is good. Ira repeated a comment from Norvell that on the last TD when he sent Tate back on the field from the injury tent, he gave him two plays he could use. He said Tate made the correct call at the line and switched us into the running play that resulted in Benson’s third TD run.
Dominic Robinson joined the show about halfway through and was dropping knowledge left and right.
DR said it it incredibly difficult to win 12 games and not have a loss. There are national championship teams that didn’t go 12-0.
DR said that Tate pulled the ball on an early zone read play where Benson had a wide open field in front of him that likely would have been a long TD run
DR said that we will probably get away with Tate’s slow processing of reads vs Louisville but vs a playoff team that, combined with an OL that is inconsistent at run blocking, it will likely come back to haunt us.
He wasn’t being critical of Tate. He mostly praised him. He said coming in off the bench is hard. Tate has now done it twice and won both times. He said making your first start at UF, at night, is insanely difficult. Our best players and Norvell’s play calling made it more difficult early rather than helping him. Despite all of that, he didn’t implode. He played well enough for us to win.
He talked about how we will probably give Tate a small handful of plays that he likes that he can have planned in advance so we can go tempo.
There is a lot more from both Ira and DR. These are just the points that I remember.
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DR said UFelon is not far away from being good. He said they are much more talented than UM. He said their backup qb who played is a lot better than their injured starter. His wife is UFelon grad and his son apparently is going to play baseball there. He said he has watched most of their games this season.
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Example of late hit to QB from my youth:
Back in my day, we simply called that a sack.
Florida State player wasn’t called for “roughing.”
Doesn't matter. The penalty was for hitting him in the head. You can call it whatever you want.
I dont think it was a forcible hit. I don't think it was intentional. I don't think it should have been called. But, I can see why they did and it's reasonable.
it does matter, and for the items you listed. There are requirements for roughing the passer, and those weren’t met (hit after throw, body slam/full weight, forcible hit to head or neck). You even agree they weren’t met. If that’s forcible contact, then we need to get stop playing this game, because that type of contact happens multiple times in every game played. The refs had time to discuss/collect themselves, and announced PF with no number…sloppy work at best, incompetent being most likely. It’s an assumption it’s the contact to head, because they gave us nothing to go off of.
I can somewhat understand why they threw it, but after a quick review the flag should have been picked up. 4th down and UF is kicking a field goal.
