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Don't forget about Brian at OCYou forgot about Greg Davis?
Kinda feel the same. Simply in opinion only from ‘17-20 under TP I noticed a decent pass blocking OL with avg run blocking. At Iowa TP did ok recruiting. Believe Y Black has the most upside while plumb and ince have potential to stay in the rotation. Guaranteed KF vets his hires and has a good idea when hiring assistants if they are on a 3, 5 or 10 year plan. He knew way before last week that both Foster and TP were on the market and most likely the SD and Wy head coaches talked to KF about how they are as coaches. We’ll be fine with the hire at OL and don’t expect a drop off. Do feel however the RB coach needs make a bit of a splash.Sorry the thread was TLDR by the time I got here, but honest question, was Polasek good? I know he came in with some fanfare giving where he came from but I feel like I didn't hear much about him while he was here.
Yeah that Reese Morgan guy was just a terrible past hire.
I get it. You hate KF.
I have no idea who decides which RB's play. Ultimately it's always the head coach's call. This decade, which RB has not played which should have been?
Clock management. Iowa has become much better about game management in recent years. Yes, they still make mistakes. Literally every fan base of every team complains about their coach's clock management, with the exception of perhaps Belichik. In the last 6-7 years, Iowa has gone a lot more into the analytics route and as a result they go for it on 4th down a lot more than they used to (I wish they would still more).
Oh yes, back to the Stanzi decision. I have posted many times at length about that. Yes, Iowa dropped the Pitt game because Christensen stunk. It's obvious in pre-season that the coaches thought Stanzi had gained ground/passed Christensen. So they played both guys right away. Stanzi was better. So they started him against Iowa State and he was absolutely terrible. 5-14 with 2 picks. Christensen came in, basically didn't turn it over and went 4-5, Brodell returned a punt for a TD and Iowa won. So they started Christensen and played both QB's the next week at Pitt. Christensen led Iowa on a TD drive to go up 21-20 in the second half and they let him ride out the game. He couldn't get it done and Iowa lost. So KF went to Stanzi full time after that. And proceeded to lose the next 2 games to Northwestern and MSU, and Stanzi wasn't very good in either one. But they stuck with him. And the rest is history.
Christensen was a guy who started every game the prior year. The coaches saw Stanzi gaining ground, so they played both guys. Stanzi was handed the start at Iowa State. If he would have played well, that would have been it. But he imploded so they went to back to Christensen and gave him a chance to prove it or not against a non-conference opponent. He couldn't do it so they went back to Stanzi and stuck with it. So no, KF and O'Keefe didn't hold back Stanzi. They did what they said, the opened it up and switched QB's.
Who are these other players that finally "got a chance" only because of injury? Dez King did get a start right away as a freshman due to an injury. But he shined and they kept him in. So many of the recent draft picks all played as freshmen. A. Nelson, played as a freshman. Same for Hooker, Epenesa, Wirfs, Hockenson, Fant, Brandon Smith and ISM played as freshmen. Same for Ragaini and Tracy. Dane Belton played as a freshman. Hankins did too. Kaevon Meriweather started every game last year as a freshman. Linderbaum started every game as a redshirt freshman. Goodson played every game as a freshman and took over as the starter late in the year. How are guys being held back? If you can play, you will see the field.
You really should understand what your saying before making those kind of statements right? This has nothing to do with $$. Assistants have always been well paid at Iowa and KF already gives them a good chunk of his bonus money, and fights hard to see that their well paid in relation to other league assistants. In the last few years people have grilled KF because his assistants never moved on and became head coaches, or took better gigs like HF's guys did. Tim P has a relationship with Bohl and will probably the HC in waiting. Foster is getting a shot to move into the pro's because of his success at Iowa.Ouch.
If I was KF (and I'm obviously not) I'd put any future pay raises toward assistant salaries. Gotta keep try to keep KC and KB as long as possible
Lol. I understood exactly what I was saying. And you apparently attributed a lot of things other people said to me, despite my simple, straightforward post.You really should understand what your saying before making those kind of statements right? This has nothing to do with $$. Assistants have always been well paid at Iowa and KF already gives them a good chunk of his bonus money, and fights hard to see that their well paid in relation to other league assistants. In the last few years people have grilled KF because his assistants never moved on and became head coaches, or took better gigs like HF's guys did. Tim P has a relationship with Bohl and will probably the HC in waiting. Foster is getting a shot to move into the pro's because of his success at Iowa.
You really should understand what your saying before making those kind of statements right? This has nothing to do with $$. Assistants have always been well paid at Iowa and KF already gives them a good chunk of his bonus money, and fights hard to see that their well paid in relation to other league assistants. In the last few years people have grilled KF because his assistants never moved on and became head coaches, or took better gigs like HF's guys did. Tim P has a relationship with Bohl and will probably the HC in waiting. Foster is getting a shot to move into the pro's because of his success at Iowa.
I get it. You hate KF.
No , you don't get it. I don't hate KF, we just have different opinions about him.
You said his greatest strength is as a CEO. I think that's his greatest weakness.
The task of a CEO can be summarized as continually increasing the success
level of his organization by identifying areas of weakness and quickly taking
whatever action, through people or methods, that are necessary to correct them.
Allowing an offense to remain underperforming for most of 22 years is not being an effective CEO.
Allowing games to be lost with ridiculous clock management and risk/reward decisions for most of
the last 22 years is not being an effective or even competent CEO. Yes, some of the risk/reward
decisions have recently improved (after 20 years, we finally are not taking a knee before the half-
which is the most valuable possession of the game, and finally we aren't punting on 4th and 1 from their 35 yard line) But clock management has not improved--even in this past year. So the combination of risk and clock management has moved from F to D in 22 years. That's just great.
A comparison with the military is probably the most instructive. A drill sergeant's job is , through repetition and attention to detail; to teach, train, and generally prepare individuals to fight.
The job of the general is to deploy those prepared individuals in a manner that maximizes the effect of his skillfully developed strategic and tactical battle plan.
KF is an excellent drill sergeant and even has some administrative and PR skills that aren't essential for that position. But he is an inept General or CEO. You praised his vision. Has his vision been to continue having a badly underperforming offense indefinitely? We don't need or want that vision.
No , you don't get it. I don't hate KF, we just have different opinions about him.
You said his greatest strength is as a CEO. I think that's his greatest weakness.
The task of a CEO can be summarized as continually increasing the success
level of his organization by identifying areas of weakness and quickly taking
whatever action, through people or methods, that are necessary to correct them.
Allowing an offense to remain underperforming for most of 22 years is not being an effective CEO.
Allowing games to be lost with ridiculous clock management and risk/reward decisions for most of
the last 22 years is not being an effective or even competent CEO. Yes, some of the risk/reward
decisions have recently improved (after 20 years, we finally are not taking a knee before the half-
which is the most valuable possession of the game, and finally we aren't punting on 4th and 1 from their 35 yard line) But clock management has not improved--even in this past year. So the combination of risk and clock management has moved from F to D in 22 years. That's just great.
A comparison with the military is probably the most instructive. A drill sergeant's job is , through repetition and attention to detail; to teach, train, and generally prepare individuals to fight.
The job of the general is to deploy those prepared individuals in a manner that maximizes the effect of his skillfully developed strategic and tactical battle plan.
KF is an excellent drill sergeant and even has some administrative and PR skills that aren't essential for that position. But he is an inept General or CEO. You praised his vision. Has his vision been to continue having a badly underperforming offense indefinitely? We don't need or want that vision.
Demise? In his last 9 seasons he only had 2 losing seasons including Hayden's last one when he had cancer. 90 was a Rose Bowl season, 91 was best non 85 team at 10-1-1 only losing to dez howard's michigan team. 92 was 5-7 because of an INSANE non conference, 93 and 94 were blah .500 seasons, then 95 (8-4), 96 (9-3) would be considered good to real good by Kirk's standards and 97 (7-5) which has been a standard Kirk team but they were ranked top 10 early so plenty of talent. Hayden's demise was cancer and age, not coachesHayden's demise was his last 9-10 seasons. Ferentz has already been through the turnover of his original staff. Way past where Hayden was
Steven or James wouldn't surprise me one bit, my friends and I have been wondering when they'd be brought into Ferentz and Sons, inc (aka Iowa football). Running game was generally nothing special under polasek, I'd like to see BF go back but that isn't happening so I'm pretty indifferent.James Ferentz?
No , you don't get it. I don't hate KF, we just have different opinions about him.
You said his greatest strength is as a CEO. I think that's his greatest weakness.
The task of a CEO can be summarized as continually increasing the success
level of his organization by identifying areas of weakness and quickly taking
whatever action, through people or methods, that are necessary to correct them.
Allowing an offense to remain underperforming for most of 22 years is not being an effective CEO.
Allowing games to be lost with ridiculous clock management and risk/reward decisions for most of
the last 22 years is not being an effective or even competent CEO. Yes, some of the risk/reward
decisions have recently improved (after 20 years, we finally are not taking a knee before the half-
which is the most valuable possession of the game, and finally we aren't punting on 4th and 1 from their 35 yard line) But clock management has not improved--even in this past year. So the combination of risk and clock management has moved from F to D in 22 years. That's just great.
A comparison with the military is probably the most instructive. A drill sergeant's job is , through repetition and attention to detail; to teach, train, and generally prepare individuals to fight.
The job of the general is to deploy those prepared individuals in a manner that maximizes the effect of his skillfully developed strategic and tactical battle plan.
KF is an excellent drill sergeant and even has some administrative and PR skills that aren't essential for that position. But he is an inept General or CEO. You praised his vision. Has his vision been to continue having a badly underperforming offense indefinitely? We don't need or want that vision.
Yeah I know but is he an outlier? I think so.
Great part of the country is we can agree to disagree, at least right now. I think you're 100% wrong on all your points, but not going to be productive continuing it. You've made up your mind, as have I. I did address your points about KF not playing Stanzi when it was obvious he was better. I showed that was not the case, but go on about him being a terrible leader.
You do not know and can not say with 100% certainty Stanzi would have started if he played a little the previous year.You are getting "lost in the weeds" with your Stanzi / Christensen discussion.
During the prior season, with his usual lack of foresight, KF again didn't see and take action to an impending problem, but rather let it develop into a situation the next season that cost us games.
Christensen took EVERY SINGLE SNAP that prior year. Simply unbelieveable. KF may have felt giving
Stanzi some time wouldn't have changed the outcome of any of those games. That may or may not have been correct. But that's not the right criteria. The important thing was to see enough of Stanzi in game conditions to see what he really had, where further development was most essential, and acclimate him to college football.
Had KF done that, Stanzii would have been the starter, with some experience the following year and there would have been no ISU or Pitt fiasco.
Amazingly, but not surprisingly, KF has put himself right back in the same situation. Not only does he make monumental mistakes, but he doesn't learn from them. Once again, he's heading into a season with a QB that even the most optimistic are hoping will be "adequate". ( adequate at QB is not enough for Iowa to win the division). He didn't bother to give a backup enough time for a good evaluation (can only be done under real game conditions) so he has no idea what his alternatives are. So we again can anticipate a fire drill trying to salvage wins against IND and ISU to prevent ruining the season before it hardly gets started.
You don't think there might be a high school coach in Texas that could bring a little something something?
Christensen took EVERY SINGLE SNAP that prior year. Simply unbelieveable. KF may have felt giving
Stanzi some time wouldn't have changed the outcome of any of those games. That may or may not have been correct. But that's not the right criteria. The important thing was to see enough of Stanzi in game conditions to see what he really had, where further development was most essential, and acclimate him to college football.
You do know for the 2007 season Stanzi was the 3rd string QBand Arvell Nelson was the backup right? Also Christensen didn’t take every snap Stanzi was 0-4 that season and Arvell was 1-1. Stanzi has also been on record saying he was nowhere near ready to play and it wasn’t until spring football where I light went off for him.You are getting "lost in the weeds" with your Stanzi / Christensen discussion.
During the prior season, with his usual lack of foresight, KF again didn't see and take action to an impending problem, but rather let it develop into a situation the next season that cost us games.
Christensen took EVERY SINGLE SNAP that prior year. Simply unbelieveable. KF may have felt giving
Stanzi some time wouldn't have changed the outcome of any of those games. That may or may not have been correct. But that's not the right criteria. The important thing was to see enough of Stanzi in game conditions to see what he really had, where further development was most essential, and acclimate him to college football.
Had KF done that, Stanzii would have been the starter, with some experience the following year and there would have been no ISU or Pitt fiasco.
Amazingly, but not surprisingly, KF has put himself right back in the same situation. Not only does he make monumental mistakes, but he doesn't learn from them. Once again, he's heading into a season with a QB that even the most optimistic are hoping will be "adequate". ( adequate at QB is not enough for Iowa to win the division). He didn't bother to give a backup enough time for a good evaluation (can only be done under real game conditions) so he has no idea what his alternatives are. So we again can anticipate a fire drill trying to salvage wins against IND and ISU to prevent ruining the season before it hardly gets started.
So was the former Mason city coach Fry picked up. Who was that? Oh Barry.Yeah that Reese Morgan guy was just a terrible past hire.
Sure, I'm not saying a hs coach couldn't be successful. All things being equal I'd prefer a college guy. What's so hard to understand about that
Bring Danny McCarney up for OL for a couple years for a natty title run???
Seriously? No way...too old.
I'd conjecture that some of the sentiment is driven by the same sort of thing you see that is going on in the SEC. Everybody there is chasing Alabama ... it's essentially a game of going for a championship or bust.Have a case with a guy in Illinois. He lurks on other Big Ten boards. He said after reading our board for a couple of years that Iowa has "the most retarded fanbase in the country". He said judging from this board the reader would think Iowa had a terrible record, a terrible history, terrible coaching hires, a despised head coach and no sign of a winning season in the foreseeable future.
Iowa's last full season with only 7 wins was in 2014-six season past. The 2020 season would have extrapolated into a 9 or ten win season, although no one will ever know for sure. In the totally wild 2020 Iowa had a .750 winning season, only two plays away from 8-0. We return a tremendous amount of talent and most of our starters. We are a top 20 preseason for 2021. Iowa's coming off its third very good recruiting class in a row, the best class in years. We crushed
Its like ignoring the pony by the Christmas tree while searching for the pony shit. Thumped Bucky and that feline pedophile along the way. Hawkeye fans, we have every reason for optimism. You think back over the last five years and you see a lot of close losses. Well, as the sainted John Hayden Fry would say, the sun doesn't shine on the same dog's ass every day. I mean what are the chances of your All American center hitting your All Big Ten running back and causing a fumble deep in scoring territory? As the talent level continues to climb more of those bounces are going down Hawkeye Lane.
Good for Polasek. He was wasted at Iowa. He should have been our OC.
Those were nice wins, but they don't feel as great as they would have in a normal year.Thumped Bucky and that feline pedophile along the way.
To you.Those were nice wins, but they don't feel as great as they would have in a normal year.
Nice post. The thing that strikes me about the 2021 team is the depth, understanding that some younger guys need to step up on the OL and DL. Have we ever had that much depth in WR room? Assuming guys develop, think how good the 2022 D could be.Have a case with a guy in Illinois. He lurks on other Big Ten boards. He said after reading our board for a couple of years that Iowa has "the most retarded fanbase in the country". He said judging from this board the reader would think Iowa had a terrible record, a terrible history, terrible coaching hires, a despised head coach and no sign of a winning season in the foreseeable future.
Iowa's last full season with only 7 wins was in 2014-six season past. The 2020 season would have extrapolated into a 9 or ten win season, although no one will ever know for sure. In the totally wild 2020 Iowa had a .750 winning season, only two plays away from 8-0. We return a tremendous amount of talent and most of our starters. We are a top 20 preseason for 2021. Iowa's coming off its third very good recruiting class in a row, the best class in years. We crushed
Its like ignoring the pony by the Christmas tree while searching for the pony shit. Thumped Bucky and that feline pedophile along the way. Hawkeye fans, we have every reason for optimism. You think back over the last five years and you see a lot of close losses. Well, as the sainted John Hayden Fry would say, the sun doesn't shine on the same dog's ass every day. I mean what are the chances of your All American center hitting your All Big Ten running back and causing a fumble deep in scoring territory? As the talent level continues to climb more of those bounces are going down Hawkeye Lane.
Those were nice wins, but they don't feel as great as they would have in a normal year.