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Prohm OUT At Iowa State

JP is very smart. Simply troll Iowa and you have a lifetime contract. So he chased out Fred and Cael. Was a nightmare with Chizik, Rhoads (nice extension), Prohm (nice extension) and Jackson. So what are we left with? Campbell good hire and maintenance and we shall see on Dresser. Way overpaid for him. I mean they had their third ranked top 25 football team (and Campbell’s first in 6 years thanks Covid) in 112 years; men’s basketball no comment while Iowa is top 5; women’s basketball and wrestling marginal while Iowa is killing it. I mean besides billboards and the “bear” Pollard has been nothing more than a cheerleader and nothing screams little brother more than your whole mission statement is to troll Iowa. Reason why they have a message board geared only to Iowa. Sad and pathetic from the top down.
 
The last three coaches at Iowa.......Alford, Lickliter, and McCafferty
Alford wore out his welcome.....Lickliter never worked out at all.
McCafferty still wants to win the NCAA Tournament this year.

Bottom Line: Sometimes only one out of three coaches is a good
fit for a Big Ten university.
 
A few things. I am not a Barta fan but he is what 21-3 against the “bear” the last 5 years with way better track records in all 4 sports. And it isn’t just the hires but maintaining. Fred and Cael (the 2 prodigal sons) could not leave Ames fast enough under Pollard. And there is bad and what Prohm did after an extension (like the Rhoads extension bad). Fran got an extension and a few years later we have the Player of the year and a 2 seed. Brands got one and we are number 1 back to back years. So it isn’t just hires but also maintaining the right coaches and not extending the wrong ones. Obviously Barta has a lot of baggage but Pollard is not a good AD based strictly on facts not propaganda.
 
The last three coaches at Iowa.......Alford, Lickliter, and McCafferty
Alford wore out his welcome.....Lickliter never worked out at all.
McCafferty still wants to win the NCAA Tournament this year.

Bottom Line: Sometimes only one out of three coaches is a good
fit for a Big Ten university.

I'm sorry but who is McCafferty?
 
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Take this for what it’s worth but I was listening to local Des Moines sports show last week. They were recalling an interview they watched, involving a Las Vegas near writer or Mountain West beat writer (sorry, can’t recall)

But the discussion was around this guy and his opinion of Otz out in UNLV. Said he’s one of the worst X’s & O’s coaches in the entire league.

He was a key member of Fred’s staff and a hell of a recruiter. But maybe he’s not all that in terms of coaching?
I listened to the same show, hence my post on p.3.
 
I've heard the talk about donors being involved. Is it a fact? Hard to say.

Donors being involved implies Pollard is taking advice from others. Pollard strikes me as arrogant enough to think he's the smartest person in the room.

He's had more bad hires than good hires in his time at ISU. If the $$$ is there, I'm guessing he can get a good coach. If it isn't... he'll end up with the guy from UNLV.

JMO.
 
Hoiberg was a real good hire...as was Campbell...Fred knew what he was doing and got players for his system. For the life of me, why Freddy went to the Bulls is a puzzlement to me...but maybe There is a little “Ron Johnson” in all of us....I believe though that even bring the basketball coach at Nebby is better than being the coach if the Bulls.
Fred never made a secret of the fact that his ultimate goal was coaching in the NBA. He had a chance, he took it.
 
I watch a lot of basketball and that includes Moo U. I think the players played hard for Prohm, they just weren't very good. Their bigs never progressed to be consistently good and this year's freshmen, who the clown fans crowed about, just didn't make any difference. His most recent transfers were up and down and really, Bolton was the only guy you could count on. Also, it always seemed as though at a critical point in the games, Prohm would either make or not make a baffling decision that would hurt their chances for victory. And the bottom line is Prohm has had some serious talent that he just didn't do enough with before they went pro.

I wonder if Tyrese Hunter, a well thought of PG, will reopen his recruiting. Don't believe we were interested in him for some reason.
You are correct about the effort. Down to the last minutes of the last game. Seriously. They were trying. Actually, I agree with most of your points. I would add that Bolton was out of position and expected to do too much. He was a turnover machine at the point.
 
The Hoiberg hire took some balls considering he had no prior coaching experience. That is a definite win for Pollard.

Not really. Fred was clearly a coach-in-waiting. He moved right into the NBA front office after his playing days...there's a reason for that. He knows hoops. If he hadn't done as well at ISMoo...few would have complained....he's "The Mayor".

It was a much safer hire than some suggest.
 
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Not really. Fred was clearly a coach-in-waiting. He moved right into the NBA front office after his playing days...there's a reason for that. He knows hoops. If he hadn't done as well at ISMoo...few would have complained....he's "The Mayor".

It was a much safer hire than some suggest.
It was a good hire for 2 reasons. If he flames out, fans won’t blame the AD. Second, the whole “wants to coach in the NBA” made sure when he left not on the AD. Fact is, he hates Pollard. Maybe they make up but Fred left cause of JP. It really isn’t a secret. Same with Cael. Cael like Brands could get Penny and Ohio recruits from wherever he coaches. Cael hated Pollard and his focus on X country and track. Once again, not a secret. It has taken Prohm and before in wrestling Jackson running it into the ground to step up.
 
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Take this for what it’s worth but I was listening to local Des Moines sports show last week. They were recalling an interview they watched, involving a Las Vegas near writer or Mountain West beat writer (sorry, can’t recall)

But the discussion was around this guy and his opinion of Otz out in UNLV. Said he’s one of the worst X’s & O’s coaches in the entire league.

He was a key member of Fred’s staff and a hell of a recruiter. But maybe he’s not all that in terms of coaching?
Well that sounds perfect. Get a bunch of athletes that only pl
Fred never made a secret of the fact that his ultimate goal was coaching in the NBA. He had a chance, he took it.
the arrogance of some of these people amazes me. Nba is a talent league coaching don’t mean shit without players. He honestly thought he could win with the bulls? Roflmao, if he thought that I wouldn’t want him as my college coach.
 
I think it is a mistake to fire any coach, football or basketball this past season. It was a strange one at best. Let's see what is happening in Lincoln this next week.....
Normally I would agree, but a two-win season is hard to ignore.
 
Well that sounds perfect. Get a bunch of athletes that only pl

the arrogance of some of these people amazes me. Nba is a talent league coaching don’t mean shit without players. He honestly thought he could win with the bulls? Roflmao, if he thought that I wouldn’t want him as my college coach.

Coach the Bulls with Mike Jordan. "Do what Mike tells you to do on the court" and "Mike, who should we start tonight."
 
This. I'm not downplaying Covid, but I see the pandemic used by a lot of people as an excuse for this or that, down to the little things like the dealership being "unable" to provide complimentary car washes because of the pandemic. :rolleyes:

It's not like ISU was the only team trying to play ball during a pandemic. Everyone else was playing under the same circumstances, more or less, so it was a level playing field. Some teams had longer pauses than others - some had none - though it didn't seem to bother Michigan too much.

This past season for ISU is inexcusable. No coach should survive that. Especially when that makes 3 losing seasons out of the last 4.

Absolutely, my wife got some work done on jewelry and they have a tool they use in front of you before and after to show the diamonds are real. They claimed because of Covid they weren’t able to do this because the tool is difficult to sanitize. We tOld them BS, as it sounded like a good way to steal diamonds. Needless to say they checked them, but said “we really aren’t suppose to be doing this”.
 
Not really. Fred was clearly a coach-in-waiting. He moved right into the NBA front office after his playing days...there's a reason for that. He knows hoops. If he hadn't done as well at ISMoo...few would have complained....he's "The Mayor".

It was a much safer hire than some suggest.
I disagree with the assertion few would complain if he failed. Wayne Morgan was bad then Pollard struck out with McDermott. If he had gone 0-2 with a coach with zero experience a) they'd be likely looking at close to 20 years of nothing accomplished in basketball and b) they may have spared roasting the mayor but Jamie would have been the fall guy. Keep in mind how bad football was. The Hoiberg hire saved their program and probably JP's job. Might not have been able to hire MC if FH was a flop
 
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Jaime has a lot of “capital” at ISU...he has made many tough decisions and most have been quite positive. I’m s sure he did what he thought best...and I think there well might be a reason he did so...the “season” gave him the excuse to do it.
However, understand, if it was mine to make, I would not fire a coach because of their season based on this year...doesn’t mean I wouldn’t fire them...but not for the season they had this year.
What do you think about firing a coach after this pandemic season? Could youpost your opinion one more time just to beclear?
 
What clown fans don't realize is...Fred basically used them.

He saw the landscape of college basketball and recognized how he could leverage the new transfer rules at that time. (it resembled the NBA landscape he was working with in the TWolves front office). He knew that only ISU would hire him without HC experience, so he convinced them to hire him and worked that angle until it started to close. Once his resume was beefed up and the right opp presented itself...he bolted.

He got what he wanted out of ISU and moved on. They got some nice seasons, but make no mistake...he used ISMoo to advance his career.

Ouch.
 
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If TJ really is the hire you have to laugh. Clown fans love to tell us how great Pollard is and the business acumen he has.

Yep paying $10m to get a coach you could have had a few years ago for free is just the “business acumen” you expect for such an awesome AD. Give that man a raise.

Please tell us how it really is clown fans we won’t laugh really.
 
If TJ really is the hire you have to laugh. Clown fans love to tell us how great Pollard is and the business acumen he has.

Yep paying $10m to get a coach you could have had a few years ago for free is just the “business acumen” you expect for such an awesome AD. Give that man a raise.

Please tell us how it really is clown fans we won’t laugh really.
Could of had him for 10M less and the program could not possibly be in a worse spot. But for Campbell (and will see after next year with his horrible recruiting) and trolling Iowa any Clone fan would say he has been an embarrassing, abject disaster. I can’t wait for MC to leave (or go back to where they also go) and women’s basketball hires “Billy.” Pollard can’t wait for Alvarez to leave fast enough.
 
Should add Clones love to talk about Barta lawsuits. Well Pollard cost them double that with Prohm and the extension and buyout let alone Rhoads and the extension. I would bet Pollard extending Rhoads and Prohm cost 3x the money of any issues with Barta. Iowa extended Kirk. He has as many top 25’s in the last 3 years as ISU in 113 years. Extended Fran. Number 2 seed and ISU is a dumpster fire. Extended Brands. Number 1 the last 2 years and ISU is MEH at best. So exactly which AD is doing a better job?! And I don’t like Barta.
 
If Pollard is the best AD that ISU has ever had, as many Clone fans claim, can you imagine how pathetic previous ones were?
 
Did I read Campbell’s contract went up and buyout down? Oh boy. He has 1 year left with a good team plus be post Covid. Whoa. Writing is on the wall. Yikes.
 
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Hoiberg was a real good hire...as was Campbell...Fred knew what he was doing and got players for his system. For the life of me, why Freddy went to the Bulls is a puzzlement to me...but maybe There is a little “Ron Johnson” in all of us....I believe though that even bring the basketball coach at Nebby is better than being the coach if the Bulls.

Some guys hate recruiting, it never ends in college ball. One only need look at Fred's team-building strategy to see he prefers the NBA way.
 
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