Thoughts on Stallrocci's flat ride on top?
Why should the bottom guy get stalling if Stall is just trying to keep him sprawled out flat and not working to improve/turn?..........
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Why should the bottom guy get stalling if Stall is just trying to keep him sprawled out flat and not working to improve/turn?..........
You know what is kind of amazing? It is THIS^^^^^. You give PA credit when it comes to HS wrestling right. You might think that the overall knowledge of the sport, the respect for the sport, etc.... would be at a very high level.
For some reason though? It appears that ALL the great fans from PA, see POS F*** st for what it really is!!! they must ALL support the real teams who are NOT scamming the system!!!
I mean you watch StarFish and say this above!?!?!?!? They should have a GREATEST STALLER award at F*** st. MAN what a battle between PepeLaBuea, StarFish and Kergin it would be!!!!
Yea Sulking they really get after it against lower level guys, we get it!!!
I will add, I wrote the WISKY GRADES before the F*** st fiasco! Me being a HUGE IOWA fan, clearly wrote how Rathjen was lucky to not have given up 3 when he got his knee twisted up. THAT is being REAL!!! Honestly think there should be a rule change to award points even if the REF did blow the whistle as he has to!!!
However, the situation was 100% different. The IOWA guy was clearly hurt, and the match at that point was not "on the line!" PepeLaBuea was obviously giving up the MATCH WINNING TD!!! He CLEARLY called for injuries to avoid losing the match! Should be thrown out go B1Gs for UN-SPORTSMANS LIKE!!!
Pepe was 100% fine right after, PLUS I do not believe the POS REF blew whistle in this case before the TD?
You can read above HORSE WIPE!!! Maybe try getting your GARBAGE state in order or something else useful in your sorry life!!!!
Kinda makes sense given he was behind.
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IRON, you are absolute gold! Although misguided, I admire your passion.
Starocci is constantly looking for a turn. If the bottom guy drops his head and plants his forehead on the mat to prevent the turn, he often gets called for the stall.
Yeah, just keep the firearms locked up.
I am not sure I am kidding on that one. That bird is Nuttier than a porta potty at a peanut festival.
Jesus, how many pedofile supporters do we have to let on this board. Can we not clean up this garbage?
Honestly, I didn't notice you were suspended before and then banned. Sorry. You can call me garbage. It's okay. I will be fine.
Still, on a board where moderators moderate and respond to reported posts, your banning isn't surprising given you just returned from suspension.
No worries. Life moves on. More free time for you. Else, you can always create another user ID.
Seriously, pedofile supporters. Imagine letting a sports program override any common sense.
On top of that, you guys are all giant d*cks! I haven't seen one PSU fan come on here without a giant ego tainting everything they say. I know east coast people are d*cks in general, but this wrestling board was one of the best around for fans of all teams. Iowa wrestling fans on this board have been great and are largely grounded about our team, but this board is getting ruined by you dumbasses. Just leave.
Never change, I-Bird. Never change.
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Yes it would be...........................................but...............................
When the bottom wrestler refuses to build up to his base, while the top wrestler shows the ref they're not even using either arm up top, forget about trying to turn, the ref isn't going to call stalling on top.
This is folk style. We don't do parterre.
He should change West Hancock though so they stop winning State football championships.Never change, I-Bird. Never change.
I'd take that if it meant Iowa winning more wrestling championships....................
Good luck with that. The best revenge is our success. When we win, they go away.
I get blaming the wrestler on bottom, but again, Penn State has perfected being able to flatten wrestlers and keep them there to entice stall calls and build RT without really doing much else (and no, they intentionally spend plenty of f***ing time NOT trying to turn them)............
If the PSU wrestler just keeps knocking out elbows and doesn't move off to the side, then plenty of stalling calls have followed.
Not sure what "perfecting" could possibly look like since the variance of how and what is called stalling is so wide among NCAA referees.
If PSU perfected anything, it's studying NCAA referee tendencies and making a point to inform each wrestler to remind them what they might expect in terms of how stalling will be called. And PSU wrestlers altering their approach based on that information.
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So what you're saying is we need to fire all the current NCAA referees and hire new ones so that Penn State won't know what to expect?
Wow, was Hardy ripped off!
There wasn't anything remotely similar to the Rathjen match stoppage. There was no real danger. Horrible, horrible call!!! Barlett was going down.
There wasn't anything remotely similar to the Rathjen match stoppage. There was no real danger. Horrible, horrible call!!! Barlett was going down.
You have absolutely no self awareness. I love the Cesspool®.
Was Desanto hurt when it happened against RBY, twice?
First, learn how to spell pedophile, come on, up your insult game.
Exactly, umpires and their "stroke zones" vary among various umpires. I was surprised a guy who techs someone was called for a stall. It seemed the bottom guy was the one stalling, imo afraid to move so he wouldn't give up back points or a pin.
Ironbird is from Long Island. Is that far enough east to qualify?
Sounds like a fair number of people on here.
They'll just buy them too.So what you're saying is we need to fire all the current NCAA referees and hire new ones so that Penn State won't know what to expect?
He leaves his computer on for a reason. After awhile explaining to him how to login becomes pointless. He's not banned on BWI he just can't figure out how to log back in. Produce.
If you don’t like what he posts leave the IOWA board. Sounds like he is banned on the PSU board seems like an easy enough solution. Just leave the board
Great wrestlers can and often do “stall” on top for blocks of time. as great as David Taylor was on top, he would break you down with legs and then sit on the hips and wait for you to try to base back up and then trap an arm for a tilt.
If the bottom guy didn’t come up he would do the face to the ref complaining. Of course, being as good as he was he would often get the ref on his side. However, he was absolutely not initiating action or trying to improve his position. He was waiting to react to his opponents movement.
Starocci does something similar in breaking his guys down, but he is much more content with just wearing them down vs. going for turns. Instead of reacting for a clear turning combo he is content smothering his opponent in a more Dake like fashion.
Make no mistake, Starocci may be the most complete wrestler in DI right now, but his ride absolutely does have a stalling component when he is wrestling tougher competition…
If the bottom guy didn’t come up he would do the face to the ref complaining. Of course, being as good as he was he would often get the ref on his side. However, he was absolutely not initiating action or trying to improve his position. He was waiting to react to his opponents movement.
Starocci does something similar in breaking his guys down, but he is much more content with just wearing them down vs. going for turns. Instead of reacting for a clear turning combo he is content smothering his opponent in a more Dake like fashion.
Make no mistake, Starocci may be the most complete wrestler in DI right now, but his ride absolutely does have a stalling component when he is wrestling tougher competition…
If it is a parallel ride thinking he or anyone doing this should get dinged for stalling.
I know of no sports' fan who enjoys wide and obvious variations among the officials of their favorite sport. For example, the strike zone of baseball homeplate umpires. But still, players scout and still players blow their tops on called/non-called strikes vs balls.So what you're saying is we need to fire all the current NCAA referees and hire new ones so that Penn State won't know what to expect?
So yes, I believe all would like the NCAA to do something more to better assure consistency regarding stalling on top and bottom, stalling when exiting the cylinder vs continuation, reaction time, potentially dangerous, and stalemate calls. And they should also broadly communicate the actions they've taken.
Only then can one reasonably expect wrestlers to adapt accordingly. I've no doubt, PSU wrestlers would quickly adapt. Only then could we again rightly focus on PSU's ability to get superior recruits for any new way the rules might be enforced.
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I really do like this board. Hopefully ironbird has just another temporary suspension on our board. When you call any wrestler a pos, you should get a timeout.
Wait, wasn't your favorite NY HS wrestling coach from PA? And didn't he return to PA to coach at a small college before retirement after the mother he cared for passed?
I mean, the guy you spoke so highly about and seemed to credit for your love of the sport.
It seems an insult to his memory to disparage his state. I wonder what he'd think of your musings.
Timeouts only happens on your board (and elementary school). This board isn't really moderated.
I work with a guy named Beau. For the rest of the time that I know him, he will be referred to as Pepe Le Beau. So good
Here is the real question, how is it that psu happens to get this same ref that constantly makes calls for them. Hmmm wonder how that works. Mark my words, when there is a tight match up and a call or two means a win for the kittens in the BiGs or nationals… look who the ref is , guaranteed its this clown!
This Basshole screwed Maryland, Rutgers and Nebby
This Basshole screwed Maryland, Rutgers and Nebby
If you listen to the PSU Homer Jeff Byers call of the dual, you will hear him question the consistency of that particular referee by his name. However he gets assigned, I don't believe PSU looks forward to seeing him.
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