LOL ... yeah, Iowa hasn't always been the best as it's related to the communication side of things. However, that's not a "Ferentz" thing ... that's an athletic department thing.
100% disagree, if you look at the studies on similar incidents there are more unknowns to the cause than known. We are comparing an intense workout to "today's climate". I believe we are comparing an intense workout to things like: Child molestation at PSU, a doctor assaulting athletes at MSU, sweeping sexual assault under the rug at Baylor, Minnisota and MSU, a coach who kept his job after domestic abuse at OSU and of course a player dieing (literally dieing) at Maryland.........I am not a morality expert but the intense workout compared to the others seem a bit minor
So what you're saying is we should demand swift and steep justice upon the sensitive public for the transgression of them being overly sensitive?.........
I can certainly agree with this, but my point is that crossing the line with trying to push elite athletes in a workout is far less "appalling" than the things that are going on around the country. The staff no longer does this workout (or at least moved when they do this workout) The problem with this instance was it after a break and the coaches expected the players to stay in prime shape and tested the athletes dedication and their requirements with this workout....it was an unfortunate mistake, but nothing more and nothing less. A thourouh 3rd party investigation occured and this was their findings.
I respectfully disagree. Giving Doyle the Iowa coach of the year award that year did them no favors in public perception. It appeared tone deaf.
They performed the workout previously with no issues. It’s likely the players weren’t in good enough shape or hydrated enough to perform it. The coaching staff can’t babysit the players 24/7 and isn’t at fault for the players that may have been out drinking late or were using non-approved supplements.
watch the video; how you can disagree with him is beyond me.
I always got the impression those kids didn't do what they were told to do over their break? This workout had been done for years prior, yes?
Heavy workouts of the type done on Jan. 20, 2011, had been conducted successfully in June 2004 and December 2007 and were not known to cause rhabdomyolysis. Therefore, the football coaches, strength coaches or athletic trainers did not have reason to suspect that a similar workout in 2011 would cause rhabdomyolysis in 13 players. However, timing of the 2011 workout was different than in 2004 and 2007. The 2004 workout occurred in June, and the 2007 workout was in December after a one-week break. The 2011 workout followed a three-week break.
thanks for proving me right; you didn't watch the video and you are looking thru black and gold glasses.
agreed. your posts are laughable and ignorant (you don't know what you are talking about).
Fran I don't know what in the world has gotten into you this year. You sound very angry and have sounded very angry in pretty much all your posts. And1 gave you a decent first hand account of what others have only written about. However you choose to belittle and discount that post. What is wrong with you?
as seen in your post here, all you are left with is sarcasm. you are just digging a bigger hole for yourself. You are not being objective at all. You think 13 players being hospitalized after a workout is a normal thing. Newsflash: It isn't. And the the parents of those 13 would agree, too.
mistakes were made. a line was crossed. that's why Iowa addressed it and made changes, as noted in post #34
Raise your hand if you had ever heard of rhabdo before the Iowa players got it. I thought so.
