Blaze in, Bartlett out. Duke in, Starocci out. It doesn’t change a thing.
Recruiting
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When is it a scam?
If he'll never get into the lineup and is destined to NIL portal, what's the institution's motivation, especially if rosters are going to be cut to 30 post July 2025?
Thought Duke was in the 157-165 range, or are you just talking talent in general?
He's making a general statement.
You're correct about Duke - he will likely start at 157 but could move up to 165 at some point.
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I’m just talking about the 30 man roster limit and the number of really significant guys any one team has.
AND it isn't a shocker that you don't either but will not admit it!!! OR are you on the POS ncaa rules committee and care to explain???
Can he transfer in to IOWA and take over 157? We can "great Krailure a shirt" for Teemer!
I see what you are saying, but IF it is a hard limit of 30??? My guess is some "room" guys have to get cut and/or move on. Then once you are at the 30, you may have some "top" guys make a decision to move on instead of riding the pine. Then you could be under the 30, yet a kid might lose an opportunity sadly!
We are seeing a lot of backups in Football moving on now, great example is all the QBs right now!
Starter for Syracuse was a back up at michigan I believe? Also it might have been BYUs QB was a transfer also? I know I saw a few games just recently with transfers at the helm.
One of the big stories was the kid from UNLV leaving after 4 games and a great start to the season. Sucks for the team, but it seems that some promises made were not kept? I am sure that this could become a problem too if big offers of $$$$ don't get paid?
I am guessing IOWA will be picking up some of the F*** st kids who then will go on to beat the nitWit lion which will be awesome!
I understand it just fine. Similar to anyone else with remedial level reading comprehension.
it’s ok to admit you’re the dumbass in this instance. I won’t make fun of you too much.
you know ludington is a better recruit
i should have put imo
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We call that "getting Jenkins"! As in Bubba Jenkins, when he beat Taylor (PSU) in the finals after transferring to ASU.
This Iowa sucks at recruiting schtick is getting so tired and is simply very inaccurate. Including the 2025 class, Iowa will have 7 top 15 lb4lb recruits in DeLuca, Ayala, Kennedy, Arnold, Ferrari, Ludington and Kueter. On top of that, they will still have Caliendo and a strong likelihood they get a couple more high end transfers like they have for several years now! If you go even deeper, a couple of them were #1 overalls at some point…
Who, other than PSU is really doing that, let alone better? Make no mistake, the bar PSU is at right now simply can’t be achieved by a 2nd team without them dropping down of their own accord. So, please, for the love of God, stop with the incessant whining and insulting recruiting. The only thing it does is make you look bad.
If you want Iowa to somehow catch PSU in this category, I completely get it. Just stop with the bashing because they haven’t. They are still recruiting very well, it is just that PSU is simply in unprecedented territory and using that level to measure “poor” recruiting simply is NOT a fair or accurate tool…
Who, other than PSU is really doing that, let alone better? Make no mistake, the bar PSU is at right now simply can’t be achieved by a 2nd team without them dropping down of their own accord. So, please, for the love of God, stop with the incessant whining and insulting recruiting. The only thing it does is make you look bad.
If you want Iowa to somehow catch PSU in this category, I completely get it. Just stop with the bashing because they haven’t. They are still recruiting very well, it is just that PSU is simply in unprecedented territory and using that level to measure “poor” recruiting simply is NOT a fair or accurate tool…
I can’t be the only one that noticed Cardenas talking to a lot of the Iowa wrestlers.
Jump in, the water is warm!
I didn’t notice, but I only watched him wrestle. We have 2 big holes next year, and block can only move up to one of them. How many years does Cardenas have left?
Hoping Deluca can come in next year and be nails. He hasn’t wrestled in a while so he’s been missing some development. Not sure what wil happen at 149 next year but VV, Estrada, Rathjen, Block will all be there. I don’t think any of these guys will be effective at 157 next year. Cardenas will have three more years.
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Ok was going off wrestlestat which had him R12 and 4th, RS this year.
We need someone big time at 141 as well.
125, 141, 157, 197 all needing attention.
You appear to be correct. Cardenas wrestled for Stanford in 2022-23 (true freshman, finishing R12 at NCAAs) and 2023-24 (true sophomore, finished in 4th place at NCAAs). Then redshirt in 2024-25. Should have two seasons of eligilbity remaining (2025-26 and 2026-27).
I couldn’t help but notice Gilman and DT all smiling and interacting with Iowa coaches. Where there’s smoke, there’s fire. Can’t wait for DT and Gilly to ditch Stillwater for Iowa City!!
There WILL be top (I.e. AA-caliber) guys moving on from Penn State to start somewhere else. There is no if about it. They have too many guys who are too good to be room guys. The question is who, when, and to where. That has nothing to do with the 30 man limit, though.
three of them are going to Rutgers
i would include David Evans in the first group even though he hasn’t wrestled yet this season
When was this? Certainly didn't happen Monday night. Zero interaction among them. Now Taylor/Gilman and Tony Ramos is another story.
Pretty bold statement. I will give you another one.
There will be top level NC/high AA recruits going to Penn State. Don’t know who or when but it will happen.
In other news, water is wet, fire is hot and vague predictions without substance can either be right or wrong. Crazy I know
Kinda of like PSUers try to avoid getting “Ramos-ed” when closing out a multiple NCAA champion career
Good link.Here are the RTC criteria:
Regional Training Center (RTC) Program
Mission and Purpose StatementRTCs unify the American wrestling community under one goal to advance the sport at all levels. The purpose of the USA Wrestling RTCs are to allow individuals to achieve their full human and athletic potential. The RTCs prov...www.themat.com
From: https://www.themat.com/team-usa/regional-training-centers
Athlete Criteria:
All wrestlers participating in the RTC practice must meet one of the stated criteria below and must be a current athlete
member of USA Wrestling. All RTC athletes must be in good standing with both the RTC and the RTC host site.
1. Won at least one match at a Senior USAW World or Olympic Team Trials
2. Placed top 8 at USA Wrestling Senior Open Championships
3. Placed top 8 at USA Wrestling U23 National Championship
4. Place top 8 at UWW U20 National Championships
5. Placed top 8 at USA Wrestling Junior National Championship
6. Placed top 4 at USA Wrestling Junior Regional
7. Placed top 8 at USA Wrestling 16U National Championship
8. Placed top 8 at UWW U17 National Championship
9. Placed top 6 at USA Wrestling State Junior Freestyle/Greco-Roman Championships
10. Placed top 6 at USA Wrestling State 16U Freestyle/Greco-Roman Championships
11. Placed top 4 at USA Wrestling Senior Regional
12. Placed top 4 at New York Athletic Club International
13. Placed top 4 at Dave Schultz Memorial International
14. Competed in a Continental Championships/Games, World Championships/Games at any age level
a. 5-year criteria does NOT apply
15. Any veteran athlete who has represented the U.S. within the last two years at the Veteran’s World
Championships or is scheduled to compete at the next world championship event
16. Athletes who are listed on a collegiate roster for that academic year.
Within the link, when you click on USA wrestling RTC Locations you’ll see Oklahoma RTC and Panther Wrestling Club RTC listed.
The list doesn’t include HWC, Cyclone RTC, NLWC or Ohio RTC listed. However, if you go to the menu under memberships to find a club they are listed under USA Wrestling State Associations and Chartered Clubs.
I wonder what the difference is, and if different rules apply? Just curious.
Huh? Ramos actually won that match but regardless of that opinion, he didn't lose to a former teammate that got kicked off the team, did he? That was my point.
Yeah, I would definitely include him, too. I didn't think he was back this year since he hasn't wrestled at all, but I just looked and he's still on the roster at GoPSUSports.
