The comment replied to blue chip recruits
Also, pretty strong to slide Dweiza in with a group of multiple time AAs and Champions.
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Jabba? No, he went 2-2 BBQ in 14 and 15. Was the 5 seed in 2015 and lost first round.
David Taylor Fails 17-Year-Old Cowboys Prospect Twice Amidst NCAA College Wrestling Season
The rising star has visited Oklahoma State twice, but he has yet to meet with Olympic gold medalist David Taylor.
www.essentiallysports.com
OSU did just sign Kellen Wolbert, #22 P4P, who is at 138#. Maybe they see something in him, a higher ceiling. With rosters being limited to 30 next year, OSU is going to have to release some guys or stop recruiting soon.David Taylor Fails 17-Year-Old Cowboys Prospect Twice Amidst NCAA College Wrestling Season
The rising star has visited Oklahoma State twice, but he has yet to meet with Olympic gold medalist David Taylor.www.essentiallysports.com
That’s wild. No one is laying off Bassett because they got a guy ranked in the 20s.
I can only imagine the board if Brands did this once, let alone twice.
Do you have a better reason than HerkHawl or just playin’ the annoying contrarian again? See, we actually learned something from his post
Advise to all
Never, ever read any articles by EssentiallySports. They are all huge piles of hot garbage....
If you learned something from his post, that’s on you.
BTW, forgot to mention this in my last post. I note the source article is basically click bait. I don’t put much stock in it.
But, maybe they see a higher ceiling in him? Never mind the entourage he’ll bring with him. Sheesh…
Now you just responded with something useful. Knew you could do it.
Except there was an article on Flo that specifically asked what OSU's pick-up means for the recruitment of Bassett/Forest and implied it could have an impact. There have been plenty of studs that hit a ceiling early compared to others, not saying this is the case with Bassett. But, Taylor is cocky enough and may have some insight to think he could save a million or so bucks a produce a multi-time AA/champ and put money elsewhere. Remember, roster size is limited to 30 and OSU just picked up 12 or so ranked recruits. You don't just pick-up the #22 ranked recruit P4P at the same weight as a target for no reason. OSU has 35 kids that are SO or younger on the roster/or incoming recruits....and already 3 for the class of 26 which is not counted, totaling 38. They have 13 that are JRs or SRs eligibility wise. At 41/49 they have 6 kids, and only Carter Young is a JR or older.
I’m curious if there will be a work around to the roster limit by certain say room guys just training with the RTC and not officially being on the roster.
I could be wrong here, but I do not think that is allowed. I thought that RTC guys could roll with college guys during college practice, but that only qualified college kids could roll with RTC guys during RTC practice. Like I said, I could be all wet on this one.
If those kids are U17 and U20 qualified, then they can attend RTC practice.
He still is pulling out all the stops for the top 2 recruits in 2026, and is even recruiting the Raney twins, even though have several good young guys at those weights. It’s the PSU formula. If you can convince them all to come at the same time, you see who rises to the top in college and cut the money being given to the rest, which will likely have them entering the portal. Rinse, repeat, and thus also takes care of the 30 man roster thing.
I see what you’re saying, looks like top 6 in your state at freestyle or greco qualifies. I’d imagine that a good bit of room guys wrestling at a D1 program with an RTC would meet that.
Here are the RTC criteria:
www.themat.com
From: https://www.themat.com/team-usa/regional-training-centers
Athlete Criteria:
All wrestlers participating in the RTC practice must meet one of the stated criteria below and must be a current athlete
member of USA Wrestling. All RTC athletes must be in good standing with both the RTC and the RTC host site.
1. Won at least one match at a Senior USAW World or Olympic Team Trials
2. Placed top 8 at USA Wrestling Senior Open Championships
3. Placed top 8 at USA Wrestling U23 National Championship
4. Place top 8 at UWW U20 National Championships
5. Placed top 8 at USA Wrestling Junior National Championship
6. Placed top 4 at USA Wrestling Junior Regional
7. Placed top 8 at USA Wrestling 16U National Championship
8. Placed top 8 at UWW U17 National Championship
9. Placed top 6 at USA Wrestling State Junior Freestyle/Greco-Roman Championships
10. Placed top 6 at USA Wrestling State 16U Freestyle/Greco-Roman Championships
11. Placed top 4 at USA Wrestling Senior Regional
12. Placed top 4 at New York Athletic Club International
13. Placed top 4 at Dave Schultz Memorial International
14. Competed in a Continental Championships/Games, World Championships/Games at any age level
a. 5-year criteria does NOT apply
15. Any veteran athlete who has represented the U.S. within the last two years at the Veteran’s World
Championships or is scheduled to compete at the next world championship event
16. Athletes who are listed on a collegiate roster for that academic year.
Regional Training Center (RTC) Program
Mission and Purpose StatementRTCs unify the American wrestling community under one goal to advance the sport at all levels. The purpose of the USA Wrestling RTCs are to allow individuals to achieve their full human and athletic potential. The RTCs prov...
www.themat.com
From: https://www.themat.com/team-usa/regional-training-centers
Athlete Criteria:
All wrestlers participating in the RTC practice must meet one of the stated criteria below and must be a current athlete
member of USA Wrestling. All RTC athletes must be in good standing with both the RTC and the RTC host site.
1. Won at least one match at a Senior USAW World or Olympic Team Trials
2. Placed top 8 at USA Wrestling Senior Open Championships
3. Placed top 8 at USA Wrestling U23 National Championship
4. Place top 8 at UWW U20 National Championships
5. Placed top 8 at USA Wrestling Junior National Championship
6. Placed top 4 at USA Wrestling Junior Regional
7. Placed top 8 at USA Wrestling 16U National Championship
8. Placed top 8 at UWW U17 National Championship
9. Placed top 6 at USA Wrestling State Junior Freestyle/Greco-Roman Championships
10. Placed top 6 at USA Wrestling State 16U Freestyle/Greco-Roman Championships
11. Placed top 4 at USA Wrestling Senior Regional
12. Placed top 4 at New York Athletic Club International
13. Placed top 4 at Dave Schultz Memorial International
14. Competed in a Continental Championships/Games, World Championships/Games at any age level
a. 5-year criteria does NOT apply
15. Any veteran athlete who has represented the U.S. within the last two years at the Veteran’s World
Championships or is scheduled to compete at the next world championship event
16. Athletes who are listed on a collegiate roster for that academic year.
That Flo article about potential impact of Kellen Wolbert on Bassett/Forrest was pure speculation, with a healthy dose of click-bait:
- Any recruit the quality of Bassett or Forrest isn't going to fret about having to beat out anyone for a starting spot. And Wolbert is for sure a good prospect, but isn't considered super elite at around #22 national rank.
- As I recall, Wolbert has been wrestling at 138 lb. Not sure where he projects in college, but Bassett will likely be at 149 lb, minimum. Forrest is also likely to end up as a middle weight. So Wolbert may not even compete at the same weight as Bassett or Forrest.
the guy they recruited to take Kobe Frankins spot. jeez.
I want to see how this 30 man limit plays out??? I am guessing the great krailure already has some magic formula that the POS ncaa will be fine with!!! It would seem that F*** nst would be the most screwed team IF this limit was ever enforced as you would not only have AA type kids riding the pine, but also a problem with just flooding the room with whoever you wanted.
I really feel bad for what seems like a continued decline of opportunities for WRESTLERS to move on and compete in college!!! The big picture does NOT look bright with everything that is happening especially this NIL SHHHHeeeeTTTT!!!!!
I really feel bad for what seems like a continued decline of opportunities for WRESTLERS to move on and compete in college!!! The big picture does NOT look bright with everything that is happening especially this NIL SHHHHeeeeTTTT!!!!!
Nothing is set in stone. And it does sound like there will either be a sliding scale to 30 (not just a hard cut in 2025) or teams may even be able to "pay in" to have a larger roster. No one knows anything.
Well this is the typical POS ncaa bullsheeet!!! The way I originally read it was, teams can now offer 30 scholarships, which I thought would be really good. Figured most teams would not have the $$$$ to do so, but any schools that wanted to would find a way, and many more kids would get a shot.
Then the 30 man limit was also thrown in there any things just did not add up or make much sense!?!?!? Not sure what I am missing or making a mistake on??? If I can have 30 full rides, then my entire team is able to be on a "free ride"!?!?!? Why wouldn't teams be able to use the scholarships they way they feel best for their school and team???
For example 20 full rides and 20 1/2 rides, 40 man roster?
All depends on the "settlement" - so that's why no one knows anything other than what has been leaked/rumored about.
Let's not get ridiculous here. Penn State does not have >30 AA caliber kids on their roster.
125: Lilledahl, McHenry
133: Davis, Nagao (inj)
141: Bartlett
149: SVN
157: Kasak, Facundo (inj)
165: Mesenbrink, Sealey (RS)
174: Haines, Ryder (RS)
184: Starocci
197: Barr, Cochran, Connor Mirasola (RS)
HWT: Kerkvliet, Cole Mirasola (RS)
There are 18 guys on their roster who I would consider either NQ or better quality now or potential AA caliber in the future who are indispensable either for depth this year or future starters. With 12 additional spots, it allows them to keep:
133 Steen
141 Nasdeo, Cunningham (RS), Weiss (RS)
149 Pierce
165 Dunbar, Watson (RS)
174 Lee, Gibson, Kelly
197 Fricchione
HWT Bundy (RS)
That's 30 guys. If they are limited to just 30, you're already down into the ranks of room guys who wouldn't see the light of day for any top 30 team. The 30 man limit is not going to affect them other than to bar kids not currently on scholarship or NIL from being room guys.
thats this year. hwo does that change next year with blaze, duke and everyone else coming in?
Facundo is injured now?
It isn’t a shocker to the rest of us that you didn’t understand this at all. And still don’t.
Think he just got beat out by Kasak, and needs to decide about transfer with more middle weight studs coming in, not even counting 2026 class. Maybe he ends up at Iowa state. Think he gave them a good look in high school because of Metcalf.
Actually, Facundo was seen with crutches or a walking boot, don't recall exactly, but something of that nature. IIRC, this was observed at the Wyoming dual on Dec 15.
The PSU staff did not disclose the nature of his injury (surprise, surprise), other than Facundo "tweaked something" and will be out a few weeks.
Guess it does matter since he won’t be a starter unless someone goes down.
