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Mineo is an a$$hole and idiot. HIPAA and federal law prevents anyone from divulging medical issues, including drug test results. So the NLWC or PSU coaches telling DT would have been a violation of law. I know. I work with HIPAA and drug testing daily.
Ironbird is going to lose his mind over this one. I'm ok with the bad press for squeaky clean valley though. Maybe Iowa can pass that torch on to Carl.
oh so now you expect rational criticism from mineo since it has to do with psu? welcome to our world
As a visitor on your forum I try to never correct anyone.. But that ship has sailed long ago..
Hey, I've always thought Mineo was a muckraker and lowlife. Even when he is picking on you guys. He is like when your pet vomits and you accidentally step in it with your bare foot. Mineo is the vomit.
Not at the time of the failed test, he applied and was granted one after the fact but still received the 1 year suspension.
This was never "supposed to be Iowa's move." Get over yourself. LOL
Adderall allows better focus on Jesus, ffs. Nothing to see here. False Gods can't triumph.
Right?
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"Turned it down after talking to their camps". - Pyles
Cael's hands are all over this one. The man is a master of manipulation. He's gotten both Casey and David Taylor to turn down the OKST job. Pure speculation - but I wouldn't be surprised at all if Cael talked them out of it.
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Holy shit. This warrants it's own thread. Adderall is a form of PED. Bad wording my minnow.
I think this will be pretty bad for AB. Cael and the lawyers will do what they can, but in the end, I think he's gonna have at least 3-4 minutes of some seriously stinging wrists.
Agree to the first point but I’m not sure that’s how HIPAA works. If NLWC (as the employer) directed that Brooks get tested, I think you would have a point. But this is a governing body that directed it and aren’t subject to HIPAA. Neither is anybody that is not a “covered entity” in the chain of care providers, admin, insurance etc.
Otherwise, why would any athlete cop to a hot test?
one does not simply leave the cult
Why would he selfishly do that? They are both probably in his inner circle of friends, and he has wrestled with this decision himself back in 2009. So i would imagine they came to him for advice, and as a friend he gave it. I don't think Cael shies from competition so highly unlikely he gave self serving advice.
Dake has a chance to be the oldest gold medal winner from the USA, but I believe Chris Campbell (an Iowa alum) was the oldest team member at 36.
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This. I enjoy most of your contributions VHS but you sure whipped this place up into a frenzy with all kinds wishful thinking. Seems like none of it is true. GJ steering the cesspool off a cliff this offseason.
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So you effectively agree with me that he likely gave them advice to turn down the OKST job?
"Why would he selfishly do that?" Is a great question.
i like to joke around but i doubt it was out of malice that cael talked dt out of it. it was probably like, hey are you sure you are done competing? you can always coach but there is only so long to compete. i have always wondered if cael wishes he would have competed another cycle
Good post:
"The U.S. Anti-Doping Agency (USADA) adheres to the World Anti-Doping Agency's (WADA) International Standard for the Protection of Privacy and Personal Information (ISPPPI). The ISPPPI establishes minimum privacy protections for the collection and use of athlete personal information, including information about doping controls, whereabouts, and TUEs. USADA also includes a statement in its agreements with third parties requesting that they handle information consistently with the USADA Protocol and/or the ISPPPI. However, USADA is not responsible for how third-party websites use information collected from or about individuals."
So the bolded is how USADA weasels out of privacy responsibility.
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Head coaching jobs don't always open up at the wrestling blue bloods. Every couple of decades usually... DT isn't getting younger and his chances at making another Olympic tournament are worse next cycle. That would be really poor advice from Cael if that's what he told David.
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"Weasels out of". People using PEDs in sports shouldn't be granted privacy.
No. Reading comprehension is important. I think he gave them advice from past experience and out of friendship. I highly doubt he gave them a thumbs up or down. Just the pros and cons like we all would with a friend.
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And it just so happened that after talking to Cael they concluded the cons outweigh the pros. As I stated, Cael is a master manipulator. I agree he wouldn't explicitly tell them not to take the job. The reason Cael's effective at manipulating is because he can get guys to make the decisions he wants them to make without commanding them explicitly.
Sure they should. People like you like to tear people down before all the facts are known. I'd rather wait until the facts are known. I personally don't need to know that he failed adderal, and that it may have been a paperwork issue. Not my business. Or yours. I only need to know if he is going to wrestle or not.
Example: You get fired today because you failed a drug test. Should I know that you do cocaine? No. I only need to know that you got fired. Maybe performance. Maybe insubordination. Many reasons. I don't need to know.
So Cael is the reason your AD is keeping Tom and Terry? Good to know. Cael is a bastard.
The moon landings were fake btw. Mr Spock told me so on an episode once.
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That's all your opinion. If you cheat in sport you deserve that it's publicly known that you cheated. Especially considering people can gamble on sport. If I work in finance and commit insider training, the public deserves to know and gets reported publicly. It's cheating. The only difference is that cheating in sport is typically a civil punishment rather than criminal.
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Who said that? We're talking about DT turning down the OKST job.
Now your bring up Iowa, moon landings, and star trek. Great comeback. Great reasoning and debate skills.
Given that DT is waiting for the Iowa position to open up, did anyone really expect for him to accept the OK State position?
You are supposing he cheated. What if it was simply a paperwork issue? What if he had a prescription for the last 10 years? You are very black and white on things. If it gets corrected and he receives no penalty, I am sure you will be on here the next 10 years calling him a cheater. That's how you roll.
You telling anyone to get over themselves is the greatest statement of all time!!!
If he was legally prescribed them, then this was just a paperwork SNAFU. One can argue how this can happen at this level knowing the history of the shitshow that is WADA...however, it wouldn't be considered cheating. Another however...some might want to minimize Adderall as a PED but it can very useful for a rebound after cutting weight.
