Nothing....they are just trying to trigger all the real pussies that think this a big deal. But seriously how dare these guys step all over your finely manicured pink lawns.
So, I heard the entire team is kneeling during the national anthem
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not just that.
I HIGHLY doubt EVERY player wants to crap on the anthem. If this is true I am positive some are basically forced to do so.
They're also fighting for others right to disagree. which makes your point, well, pointless
One of the most counterproductive things they could do. It won’t bring people together, only separate us farther. It is why history needs to be taught instead of the revisionist crap the schools are forcing upon our kids.
Lucky for us, Kirk is man enough to ignore you and back his team. And Merriweather tweeted that he was hurt that you disagreed with him, Kurt...but he'd prolly kneel anyway.
You should rethink that, starting with anything that's not directly football related. After that, you can get into the things that are football related, but which are counterproductive.
TouchéThey're also fighting for others right to disagree. which makes your point, well, pointless
They're taking a knee to bring awareness to the fact that black people murder over twice as many white people in this country every year as vice versa and that this kind of rampant racism can not stand.
I bet this post gets deleted. We live in an age of lies, and certain facts must be suppressed.
If the players take a knee, I’ll be done with them.
This.
Look at the mockery that has been made of the national anthem vis-a-vis sports broadcasts the last 10 or 20 years.
People swigging their beers, not removing hats, talking to each other, playing on their phones, etc. And broadcasts actually focus on that stuff. Not to mention the way performers who sing it almost as if it's a joke.
Frankly, do away with The Swarm, the anthem, The Wave, halftime shows, all of it. It's all about the "spectacle" now. And we should have seen it coming back in the early 1980s when the in-studio pre-game teams would close their segments with, "And now we send you to ________ Stadium for the Budweiser Kickoff".
I support black people, like black people, and see the struggle.
Take a knee.
I think of all the black soldiers who fought in every war we've had, only to face the reality that they have to return to place full of Kurt Warners.
Take a knee.
Take a knee.
I think of all the black soldiers who fought in every war we've had, only to face the reality that they have to return to place full of Kurt Warners.
Take a knee.
The quote from Merriweather is from last June so that is very old news. I would guess someone has started a rumor and would guess it is wrong.
Because people watch sports to be entertained, not to have political views forced in their face.
Especially veterans who faced death, had friends killed and saw horrible things and some kids don’t want to show some respect.
If they don’t like what’s going on support political candidates, protest outside of games, raise money for causes they think will further their agenda or use their fame to get air time outside of a game when people aren’t trying to show their respect for the country, service and sacrifice.
let me understand this- we have a president who said our war dead are suckers and losers but you're angry about the kneeling because you think it disrespects our soldiers- i have never heard the kneelers say anything disrespectable about our military.
Let’s hope they do kneel, maybe some of you haters will leave this board and stop polluting it with your political and religious nonsense!
You can't say something like this don't you know?? It goes against the leftest libtards agenda!!!!! While 100% true you still cant 😐
712 and STC nailed it. I come from a five consecutive generations military. I am the direct descendant of soldiers who fought to preserve the Union, fought in the Spanish-America War, and two grandfathers who served overseas in WW2. My Dad served in as an officer on the Korean DMZ. I have an older sibling one-star General in the family today. They all fought to live in a nation where you weren’t forced to salute the flag in the way the society or government told you that you must. One of the foundational rights our nation’s forefathers gave us was the right to peaceful protest. These peaceful demonstrations are more American than those who would force their fellow Americans to goose-step to their own misguided view of what patriotism looks like.
Oh my? What will the players do without you?
Not a big football fan, huh?
As a veteran, I do not feel disrespected when players kneel for the anthem. I did not take an oath to a piece of cloth or a song.
Remember, by definition, kneeling is a sign of respect, submission, worship. Maybe they didn't know that when they picked kneeling as a sign of protest, which it is not.
The divide in this country over this issue is because some don’t actually understand what freedom is. No one has to like what others choose to do in the name of freedom of speech, that’s what makes it so important. However, those who feel that this freedom should be outlawed are completely ignorant of that right. Very much equivalent to forcing Germans to salute the Nazi flag.
How will Iowa Football survive without the 10-12 racist old bats who are so disgruntled?! I hope Barta has a plan to save the program.
We all know you’re still going to watch after you get your internet tough guy ranting done. Cowards.
We all know you’re still going to watch after you get your internet tough guy ranting done. Cowards.
I was hoping they'd draw attention to the team with their play on the field, not their actions before the game. It's ironic to me though, that while because they're athletically gifted and have earned the right to kneel before a game, many young men and women, many of color, will have entered the armed forces because they're not talented enough to play football and don't have the money to attend a university. They'll be starting a career, or perhaps using the GI Bill to go to college at a later date, but they'll be saluting the flag every day while they're in the service.
Righties: "Why can't they just peacefully protest why do they have to destroy stuff and loot?"
Also righties: "No not like that!"
My conclusion: Righties just want everyone to shut up and accept the way things are. They don't want the change these players and millions of others are fighting for.
Also righties: "No not like that!"
My conclusion: Righties just want everyone to shut up and accept the way things are. They don't want the change these players and millions of others are fighting for.
Give me a break.
* 712 assumed the race of another poster and you say he nailed it????
* You used the divisive Nazi words "goose-step" for those who disagree with your view on this topic. And you say those who disagree with you are misguided???? Unbelievable.
* Why are you not smart enough to realize that your family military history is not relevant? Obviously, not all military members & vets agree with kneeling during the anthem.
All the kneeling issue has done is further divide this country. This country, many years ago, used to be able to bring people who had differences together & find common ground. NOW? There is no compromise and no listening to the "other side."
Why are you not smart enough to realize that this, TOO, is an issue where compromise can be found?
As I stated before, here's the deal: Basketball and football players know they are gonna piss people off when they kneel during the anthem so why not COMPROMISE?
* As the basketball players come on the court for the opening tip, the ref could hold the ball & all of the basketball players could kneel. Once the PA says "thank you," the players stand and the refs and the players line up for the opening tip. ALL EYES WOULD BE ON THAT MOMENT. And it would not be divisive.
* As the football players come on the field for the opening kick off, the ref could hold the ball and all of the football players could kneel. Once the PA says 'thank you," the players stand and the refs and the players line up for the start of the game. ALL EYES WOULD BE ON THAT MOMENT. And it would not be divisive.
Menace, you should keep your very divisive, racist, & Nazi "goose-step" comments to HROT. I am sure the HROT left wing echo chamber misses you and your crazy ass comments and eagerly await your return.
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Come on 712...you are much better! You pulled a trifecta and just judged someone for their race, age, and the size of their home town. Keep this crap off the football board. GO HAWKS!
This is exactly correct. They are trying to bring attention to a cause. Many are upset and find it offensive. Both are part of living in this country and protected by the First Amendment.
I personally believe it is a respectful demonstration of something they believe in. They are kneeling - not mooning or raising a fist. They take their helmets off. They are doing it quietly and allowing others to stand. They do not mock those who stand.
But, many believe it is disrespectful - that is their right. As long as everything stays peaceful and allows everyone to believe what they believe, I'm good with it.
Your blind ignorance is overwhelming. The POTUS never said any of those left wing lies. Take your agenda to HROT.
Those people that fought for this country did so to give them the right to free speech and to kneel. They aren't disrespecting the flag or the anthem, but they are protesting injustice/inequality in this country. What gives you the right to say they can't do this? I work with several veterans and they don't view it as disrespect at all, but rather quite the opposite. Maybe the national anthem would unite us all if we didn't have the biggest piece of shit in history in the white house that has done nothing but divide the country.
Oh that's right Trump has never said any of those things. Let's see, he has been nothing but a con man, failed businessman, shit husband, shit father, pathological liar his entire life, but he never said any of those things, and its just everyone else making it up because they are out to get him, right? If you think that you need help.
They've obviously never had to watch a teammate step into an IED in Iraq and get their entire body absolutely disintegrated into chunks of meaty flesh.
